| Bakinson 15:16 - Apr 5 with 3985 views | hype313 |
What's the consensus on him?
He has looked better in recent times after his Benny Hill cameo start, but I'm not sure he has all the attributes we need from a midfielder for this division next season.
I get that Ashton is very keen to bring through younger players with a view to sell on if successful, but I'm not sure the two can be achieved at the same time, when it is going to be even more imperative to go up next season.
I just think we need another experienced midfielder alongside Morsy next season to grind out results. Not so sure Evans is the answer either. |  |
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| Bakinson on 15:22 - Apr 5 with 3617 views | jayessess |
I think he's pretty good and we missed him on Saturday.
Spots good passes between the lines, can carry the ball, can shoot well, seems to land on a lot of second balls.
I think I'd be surprised if we didn't make it permanent in the Summer. |  |
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| Bakinson on 15:24 - Apr 5 with 3604 views | Kieran_Knows |
I think it's a given he signs here permanently. Not sure we need another experieneced head in there, if I'm honest. Evans and Morsy had started to get going a little before Evans injury, so I think options of Morsy, Evans, Bakinson, +1 other (and possibly Harper), should be enough. |  |
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| Bakinson on 15:27 - Apr 5 with 3584 views | billlm |
Should have played Saturday, we would still be in with a shout if he had,one McKenna's got massively wrong, |  | | |
| Bakinson on 15:30 - Apr 5 with 3542 views | N2_Blue |
He's been good since day one and have always liked the look of him when so many other's were giving him ridiculous grief.
I'd be very happy to have him here next year. |  |
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| Bakinson on 15:36 - Apr 5 with 3502 views | hype313 |
| Bakinson on 15:30 - Apr 5 by N2_Blue |
He's been good since day one and have always liked the look of him when so many other's were giving him ridiculous grief.
I'd be very happy to have him here next year. |
Disagree he has looked good since day one, thought he was quite erratic in the early games but has certainly improved over time.
Whether that's enough for him to be part of our mainstay next season is anyone's guess, think he would be a good backup, just wonder given our finances if we wouldn't look to someone with a solid pedigree/experience alongside Morsy. | |
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| Bakinson on 15:46 - Apr 5 with 3452 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Unconvinced to start with, but feel he’s bedded in well and put in some decent performances.
Hard to say whether I’d sign him permanently, guess it depends what type of player KM is looking for next year. |  | | |
| Bakinson on 15:51 - Apr 5 with 3435 views | LankHenners |
| Bakinson on 15:36 - Apr 5 by hype313 |
Disagree he has looked good since day one, thought he was quite erratic in the early games but has certainly improved over time.
Whether that's enough for him to be part of our mainstay next season is anyone's guess, think he would be a good backup, just wonder given our finances if we wouldn't look to someone with a solid pedigree/experience alongside Morsy. |
Agree - very peculiar player in a sense for me as I’ve rarely seen someone flicker back and forth between a really good pass/tackle and then a really sloppy one in a matter of seconds.
Definitely improved, at first I was a bit unsure why we’d got him in when we had Harper here but he’s gradually started to show his worth.
With everyone fit I’d have him behind Evans still but wouldn’t be unhappy with him as a squad player, although had hoped El Miz would fill that role. |  |
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| Bakinson on 16:20 - Apr 5 with 3364 views | NthQldITFC |
| Bakinson on 15:22 - Apr 5 by jayessess |
I think he's pretty good and we missed him on Saturday.
Spots good passes between the lines, can carry the ball, can shoot well, seems to land on a lot of second balls.
I think I'd be surprised if we didn't make it permanent in the Summer. |
I'd add to that that he's good at getting a foot in, and improving in his use of his physicality since he's been here. Great prospect, but also already competing with Evans for the second CM spot, dependent upon the type of opposition. Definitely sign him up (fourth priority for me) if funds available after the obligatory purchase of Celina and two good strikers!
With El Miz and Harper who I still feel will come good, and maybe Humphreys too we're more than well stocked in that area. |  |
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| Bakinson on 16:29 - Apr 5 with 3336 views | jayessess |
| Bakinson on 16:20 - Apr 5 by NthQldITFC |
I'd add to that that he's good at getting a foot in, and improving in his use of his physicality since he's been here. Great prospect, but also already competing with Evans for the second CM spot, dependent upon the type of opposition. Definitely sign him up (fourth priority for me) if funds available after the obligatory purchase of Celina and two good strikers!
With El Miz and Harper who I still feel will come good, and maybe Humphreys too we're more than well stocked in that area. |
Overstocked, if all 3 of El Miz, Harper and Humphreys are ready for the first team! | |
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| Bakinson on 16:53 - Apr 5 with 3293 views | itfcsuth |
Good payer, had never seen him before - physically looks similar to Harper, but certainly has impressed me since he has been here.
Would hope he will be here again next year.
Harper (22) and El Mizouni (21) both here as well. [Post edited 5 Apr 2022 16:54]
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| Bakinson on 17:25 - Apr 5 with 3188 views | Guthrum |
Seems pretty decent to me, looks to take or send the ball forwards more often than not. Big bloke, athletic, reasonable strength. Will continue to develop.
I say keep. |  |
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| Bakinson on 18:14 - Apr 5 with 3069 views | cbower |
Has looked a decent prospect and alongside getting a foot in and some decent passing at times, he has also looked to get forward with a goal and several other attempts too. However, much depends on price and what McKenna sees as the future for Harper, El Miz and Dyer's boy Humphreys. Forwards and lwb are, of course, much more of a priority. |  |
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| Bakinson on 18:19 - Apr 5 with 3057 views | ghostofescobar |
I have only seen him a handful of times via iFollow, but he sometimes seems to do the simple things poorly and the more challenging things quite well. Also, we do need to bear in mind that we are an "established" third tier team, so bringing world beaters to PR is always going to be a challenge. We have to be mindful of where we are (as in L1, rather than geographically) and who would want to come here. |  |
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| Bakinson on 19:20 - Apr 5 with 2940 views | Kentish_Tractor |
I saw him play in the Pompey game and he was absolute dog****. Was our worst player that day (granted nobody played particularly well that game but he was the worst Town player on the pitch). Couldn't pass to a blue shirt for s***.
I think we can do better. | |
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| Bakinson on 15:52 - Apr 6 with 2660 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Bakinson on 16:53 - Apr 5 by itfcsuth |
Good payer, had never seen him before - physically looks similar to Harper, but certainly has impressed me since he has been here.
Would hope he will be here again next year.
Harper (22) and El Mizouni (21) both here as well. [Post edited 5 Apr 2022 16:54]
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Don’t think we need all 3 personally.
This won’t be popular but I would sign Bakinson as a squad player and would look to also sign an upgrade on Evans. That would mean showing the door to a couple of midfielders- probably El Miz and Harper, although if we cashed in on Evans I wouldn’t lose too much sleep provided that he was replaced. | |
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| Bakinson on 17:21 - Apr 6 with 2613 views | FrimleyBlue |
He's a frustrating player but has potential.
His first thought imo is to get forward but some of his passing is awful
If its a good deal I'd take him. But I'm still sure there are better options out there first. |  |
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| Bakinson on 10:22 - Apr 7 with 2453 views | Wickets |
| Bakinson on 15:52 - Apr 6 by southnorfolkblue |
Don’t think we need all 3 personally.
This won’t be popular but I would sign Bakinson as a squad player and would look to also sign an upgrade on Evans. That would mean showing the door to a couple of midfielders- probably El Miz and Harper, although if we cashed in on Evans I wouldn’t lose too much sleep provided that he was replaced. |
I agree i would like to think we can add one really good midfielder to our squad at the expense of Harper and Carroll . |  | | |
| Bakinson on 11:31 - Apr 7 with 2393 views | clive_baker |
Morsy
Evans
Bakinson
Carroll |  |
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| Bakinson on 12:24 - Apr 7 with 2349 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bakinson on 11:31 - Apr 7 by clive_baker |
Morsy
Evans
Bakinson
Carroll |
Carroll is still to far high on that list. | |
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| Bakinson on 12:44 - Apr 7 with 2317 views | SouperJim |
| Bakinson on 12:24 - Apr 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Carroll is still to far high on that list. |
Carroll is toilet. How he got the nod ahead of Bakinson and El Miz on Saturday is beyond me.
Am I the only one who doesn't rate Evans? Struggles to have any impact on the game for me, either on the ball or off it.
Harper can go. Clearly has technical ability but lacking in other areas not least application and self belief. |  |
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| Bakinson on 12:48 - Apr 7 with 2297 views | itfcjoe |
| Bakinson on 11:31 - Apr 7 by clive_baker |
Morsy
Evans
Bakinson
Carroll |
Whilst I don't agree with Dyer's point about Humohreys being 2nd best midfielder at the club (I haven't seen him this season in reality), you can get the point that he is a left footed playmaker who is very, very promising and not getting games behind Carroll who has had more poor games than good ones. At oxford he was poor, Saturday he was poor.
Re Bakinson - I really like him - and when you look at who he has played with it's more impressive - his first 5 games were with different midfield partners
AFC Wimbledon away - Carroll
Sheffield Wednesday away - El Mizouni
Donny away - Evans
MK away - Morsy
Morecambe away - Morsy
Lincoln home - Morsy
Pompey home - Morsy
Oxford away - Carroll
Plymouth home - Morsy
Must be very hard to get into a rhythm when in and out of the side with different partners as well |  |
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| Bakinson on 12:51 - Apr 7 with 2288 views | itfc_bucks |
| Bakinson on 12:44 - Apr 7 by SouperJim |
Carroll is toilet. How he got the nod ahead of Bakinson and El Miz on Saturday is beyond me.
Am I the only one who doesn't rate Evans? Struggles to have any impact on the game for me, either on the ball or off it.
Harper can go. Clearly has technical ability but lacking in other areas not least application and self belief. |
Agreed that TC was waaaay off the pace last weekend and the game was screaming for Bakinson and his physicality from the off.
We're also omitting the fact that we ought to give credit where it was due - Cambridge had a game plan and executed it superbly.
We really shouldn't be shthoused by such teams, but all too often, we still are. We need to get wise to it or next season will be more of the same. | | | |
| Bakinson on 12:58 - Apr 7 with 2277 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Bakinson on 15:24 - Apr 5 by Kieran_Knows |
I think it's a given he signs here permanently. Not sure we need another experieneced head in there, if I'm honest. Evans and Morsy had started to get going a little before Evans injury, so I think options of Morsy, Evans, Bakinson, +1 other (and possibly Harper), should be enough. |
losing evans to injury gave bakinson his chance and has done well.
caroll shouldn't be played with morsy - play him if morse is injured or suspended.
saturdays line up was an error made by kmk in my opinion
then after that we have
elmiz,dobra, how many others?
there will be some shipping out before we can get a 10+ goal scoring central midfielder |  | | |
| Bakinson on 14:10 - Apr 7 with 2209 views | clive_baker |
| Bakinson on 12:48 - Apr 7 by itfcjoe |
Whilst I don't agree with Dyer's point about Humohreys being 2nd best midfielder at the club (I haven't seen him this season in reality), you can get the point that he is a left footed playmaker who is very, very promising and not getting games behind Carroll who has had more poor games than good ones. At oxford he was poor, Saturday he was poor.
Re Bakinson - I really like him - and when you look at who he has played with it's more impressive - his first 5 games were with different midfield partners
AFC Wimbledon away - Carroll
Sheffield Wednesday away - El Mizouni
Donny away - Evans
MK away - Morsy
Morecambe away - Morsy
Lincoln home - Morsy
Pompey home - Morsy
Oxford away - Carroll
Plymouth home - Morsy
Must be very hard to get into a rhythm when in and out of the side with different partners as well |
Carroll has been awful. The thing that frustrates me about him is the 1 thing he's meant to be good at, he really isn't very effective at at all. I'm not Evans' biggest fan by any means but as a bit more of a midfield general and all rounder he at least puts himself about, can offer some level of protection, he's physically pretty big, can cover the ground, and we can play through him more than we can Carroll. He at least influences a game, as has Bakinson. I don't expect most of those things from Carroll, but he doesn't even seem to get us playing at a good tempo, doesn't look after the ball particularly well, rarely see him pick a penetrating pass. He's just looked like a sh1t Dozzell. I can't fathom how or why he jumped ahead of Bakinson on Saturday to be honest.
I think Dyer's comment was perhaps designed to be a little contrarian and controversial, but it's a stretch to say someone with no football league experience should be ahead of Evans for example. It's hard to give much credence to such a suggestion, and is actually a bit offensive to some of those senior players. He might have all the potential in the world, and I don't think many would disagree that it would be nice to see more academy players given an opportunity, but in McKenna's defence he's inherited a squad, trimmed it, and had a very clear remit over a 20 game period to have a shot at the playoffs. Given that remit I think 99.9% of people would've not been looking to experiement too much, especially when results have been so good. Now might be the time to give Humphries, Baggott, Simpson some experience from the bench. | |
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| Bakinson on 14:26 - Apr 7 with 2181 views | itfcjoe |
| Bakinson on 14:10 - Apr 7 by clive_baker |
Carroll has been awful. The thing that frustrates me about him is the 1 thing he's meant to be good at, he really isn't very effective at at all. I'm not Evans' biggest fan by any means but as a bit more of a midfield general and all rounder he at least puts himself about, can offer some level of protection, he's physically pretty big, can cover the ground, and we can play through him more than we can Carroll. He at least influences a game, as has Bakinson. I don't expect most of those things from Carroll, but he doesn't even seem to get us playing at a good tempo, doesn't look after the ball particularly well, rarely see him pick a penetrating pass. He's just looked like a sh1t Dozzell. I can't fathom how or why he jumped ahead of Bakinson on Saturday to be honest.
I think Dyer's comment was perhaps designed to be a little contrarian and controversial, but it's a stretch to say someone with no football league experience should be ahead of Evans for example. It's hard to give much credence to such a suggestion, and is actually a bit offensive to some of those senior players. He might have all the potential in the world, and I don't think many would disagree that it would be nice to see more academy players given an opportunity, but in McKenna's defence he's inherited a squad, trimmed it, and had a very clear remit over a 20 game period to have a shot at the playoffs. Given that remit I think 99.9% of people would've not been looking to experiement too much, especially when results have been so good. Now might be the time to give Humphries, Baggott, Simpson some experience from the bench. |
Yep, I think a more general point that if Humphreys put in the same performances as Carroll, or Simpson put in the same ones as Pigott eveeyone would be saying they are nowhere near ready and should go back to 23s or out on loan
Senior players get many more chances, and much more rope by virtue of earning good money or having cost money | |
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