| Is Bart still living locally? 21:30 - Jun 8 with 5109 views | Asa |
Saw a guy out jogging whilst I was driving home through Kesgrave and thought he had an impressive amount of professional looking gear, including the vest you see the pro players wear to monitor everything.
As I got level, I'd be 80% certain it was Bart. Had to see for sure, but given the gear, the resemblance in stature, facial appearance etc, I assume it was him.
From what I recall he loved it here and wanted to live here beyond his career, so assume he's commuting to Millwall and it was him. |  | | |  |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:36 - Jun 8 with 4446 views | hype313 |
He lives in Mill Heath opposite the Black Tiles |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:37 - Jun 8 with 4436 views | blaggers |
Yep - he is. I think his son plays for a local junior team too. |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:37 - Jun 8 with 4448 views | Lord_Lucan |
I couldn’t comment on whether Bart is coming back as a back up keeper - but my boy might be able to. |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:38 - Jun 8 with 4416 views | catch74 |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:37 - Jun 8 by Lord_Lucan |
I couldn’t comment on whether Bart is coming back as a back up keeper - but my boy might be able to. |
He’s coming homer!? |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:39 - Jun 8 with 4413 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I was in Bethnal Green on Tuesday afternoon and there was a guy jogging in the park that I am 99% certain was KVY. |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:42 - Jun 8 with 4374 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:38 - Jun 8 by catch74 |
He’s coming homer!? |
Marge's favourite Homer. |  | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 22:01 - Jun 8 with 4248 views | Asa |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:36 - Jun 8 by hype313 |
He lives in Mill Heath opposite the Black Tiles |
He was just into the top of Ropes Drive, so well within jogging distance from his place then. | | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 22:19 - Jun 8 with 4091 views | RKD |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:37 - Jun 8 by Lord_Lucan |
I couldn’t comment on whether Bart is coming back as a back up keeper - but my boy might be able to. |
Don’t know what you’re on about pal |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 23:53 - Jun 8 with 3862 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:38 - Jun 8 by catch74 |
He’s coming homer!? |
Tel me that there's at Lisa chance of it happening. |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 00:17 - Jun 9 with 3813 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 21:42 - Jun 8 by FromReuserWithLove |
Marge's favourite Homer. |
I don't Moe, I don't Frink it'll happen. | |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 07:40 - Jun 9 with 3502 views | onceablue |
His boy was at the academy at one point
Not sure if he is still there | | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 07:49 - Jun 9 with 3458 views | Cotty |
I recently thought I’d spotted Gary Neville jogging near to Altrincham. Probably was actually him |  | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 08:33 - Jun 9 with 3338 views | itfcjoe |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 07:49 - Jun 9 by Cotty |
I recently thought I’d spotted Gary Neville jogging near to Altrincham. Probably was actually him |
I doubt it was Bart up there so may have been |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 12:19 - Jun 9 with 2921 views | Meadowlark |
I keep thinking that Walton is probably not up to Championship standards. He had a great final third, but most of the few goals we did concede were his fault. I'm not saying "get rid," but the constant squad improvement that we expect, must mean his time is limited.
Look at Evans. At the start of the season, he was "the best," but he'd struggle to feature in the current team.
It's a constant battle to improve. If you stand still, you go backwards. |  | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:04 - Jun 9 with 2794 views | Plums |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 12:19 - Jun 9 by Meadowlark |
I keep thinking that Walton is probably not up to Championship standards. He had a great final third, but most of the few goals we did concede were his fault. I'm not saying "get rid," but the constant squad improvement that we expect, must mean his time is limited.
Look at Evans. At the start of the season, he was "the best," but he'd struggle to feature in the current team.
It's a constant battle to improve. If you stand still, you go backwards. |
Walton's time is limited? Boy, that's a hot take I wasn't expecting.
I remember the goal at Cheltenham but also thought it was a reflection on the confidence of the team that we had a keeper who was even thinking of dealing with it in the way he tried.
He'll be here for some time to come - he was instrumental in not only keeping us in games but also starting moves which led to some of our most crucial goals. |  |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:08 - Jun 9 with 2758 views | Asa |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:04 - Jun 9 by Plums |
Walton's time is limited? Boy, that's a hot take I wasn't expecting.
I remember the goal at Cheltenham but also thought it was a reflection on the confidence of the team that we had a keeper who was even thinking of dealing with it in the way he tried.
He'll be here for some time to come - he was instrumental in not only keeping us in games but also starting moves which led to some of our most crucial goals. |
I was at Cheltenham.
The goal was an absolute joke of a freak gust of wind that held up a ball that initially looked like it was going to drop in the 6 yard box, only for it suddenly stop in mid air a good 12 yards further out than that as Walton had started to commit.
Once Walton read it and came for it he had no choice but to continue and try and claim it once it was held up in case it then just got headed over him. He had a split second to make that call and had to then try and also win the ball without committing a foul as well.
It's really not even worth mentioning in the realms of keeper errors and they all make them. It wasn't a goalkeeping error. It was a proper Force Majeure goalkeeping event.
The one goal he conceded in about 1,000 minutes was because of a freak occurrence. It would be like blaming Forrest for being off his line when Jason Cundy tackled one in from 50 yards. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:11]
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:11 - Jun 9 with 2730 views | Plums |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:08 - Jun 9 by Asa |
I was at Cheltenham.
The goal was an absolute joke of a freak gust of wind that held up a ball that initially looked like it was going to drop in the 6 yard box, only for it suddenly stop in mid air a good 12 yards further out than that as Walton had started to commit.
Once Walton read it and came for it he had no choice but to continue and try and claim it once it was held up in case it then just got headed over him. He had a split second to make that call and had to then try and also win the ball without committing a foul as well.
It's really not even worth mentioning in the realms of keeper errors and they all make them. It wasn't a goalkeeping error. It was a proper Force Majeure goalkeeping event.
The one goal he conceded in about 1,000 minutes was because of a freak occurrence. It would be like blaming Forrest for being off his line when Jason Cundy tackled one in from 50 yards. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:11]
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Thank you. That wasn't evident on TV but it was certainly an odd moment and definitely not one to suggest 'his time is limited'... [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:11]
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:13 - Jun 9 with 2713 views | Asa |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:11 - Jun 9 by Plums |
Thank you. That wasn't evident on TV but it was certainly an odd moment and definitely not one to suggest 'his time is limited'... [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:11]
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Looks a goalkeeping error on the highlights and it's not helped by the small stand and stadium having a lower TV angle which means you can't see the ball high up as it slows down.
Initially I thought the long ball had been overplayed and was potentially even going over it had so much on it and then out of nowhere it didn't seem to go where it was supposed to and it's on the edge of the box!
I agree with you. He's probably one of the players you could argue is a top six Championship player, along with Davis and Broadhead. I don't think Morsy or Chaplin are too far off that either, but Walton is not someone I'd be remotely concerned with at this level. | | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:15 - Jun 9 with 2686 views | itfcjoe |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:13 - Jun 9 by Asa |
Looks a goalkeeping error on the highlights and it's not helped by the small stand and stadium having a lower TV angle which means you can't see the ball high up as it slows down.
Initially I thought the long ball had been overplayed and was potentially even going over it had so much on it and then out of nowhere it didn't seem to go where it was supposed to and it's on the edge of the box!
I agree with you. He's probably one of the players you could argue is a top six Championship player, along with Davis and Broadhead. I don't think Morsy or Chaplin are too far off that either, but Walton is not someone I'd be remotely concerned with at this level. |
It is a goalkeeping error, there are other forces at play but ultimately he's misjudged it, spilled it and conceded - these things happen.
But when it is one mistake (and two goals conceded) in 15 games then it is really not something to worry about. | |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:19 - Jun 9 with 2653 views | Asa |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:15 - Jun 9 by itfcjoe |
It is a goalkeeping error, there are other forces at play but ultimately he's misjudged it, spilled it and conceded - these things happen.
But when it is one mistake (and two goals conceded) in 15 games then it is really not something to worry about. |
I think it's correct to say he's misjudged it because he's assuming the ball will continue on its predicted path from the point it's played forward.
I can't see how it can be classed as an error, unless he's got some form of precise meteorological data to work from! He comes out to exactly where I expected the ball was going to land and then all of a sudden it just held up in the air.
He's then either got to stay stranded with a chance it gets nodded over him or make a split second decision to carry on and try and get there first.
Watching it in real time, it was like the sort of split second moment Reina had to react to the beach ball goal and which ball to follow. You simply can't hold that against Walton, but as you rightly point out, 2 goals conceded in 15 matches is hardly a concern, goalkeeping error or freak weather event.
It's a shame the TV didn't pick it up as I'd have sworn the wind started to take the ball backwards the closer Walton got to it as well. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:21]
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:36 - Jun 9 with 2576 views | itfcjoe |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:19 - Jun 9 by Asa |
I think it's correct to say he's misjudged it because he's assuming the ball will continue on its predicted path from the point it's played forward.
I can't see how it can be classed as an error, unless he's got some form of precise meteorological data to work from! He comes out to exactly where I expected the ball was going to land and then all of a sudden it just held up in the air.
He's then either got to stay stranded with a chance it gets nodded over him or make a split second decision to carry on and try and get there first.
Watching it in real time, it was like the sort of split second moment Reina had to react to the beach ball goal and which ball to follow. You simply can't hold that against Walton, but as you rightly point out, 2 goals conceded in 15 matches is hardly a concern, goalkeeping error or freak weather event.
It's a shame the TV didn't pick it up as I'd have sworn the wind started to take the ball backwards the closer Walton got to it as well. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:21]
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It's up to the goalkeeper to deal with conditions and judge things with them in mind - I'm sure a lot of GK errors have mitigating circumstances but key is that they learn from them | |
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| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:39 - Jun 9 with 2551 views | PhilTWTD |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 22:01 - Jun 8 by Asa |
He was just into the top of Ropes Drive, so well within jogging distance from his place then. |
Quite a long way for a goalkeeper though. |  | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:40 - Jun 9 with 2540 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:08 - Jun 9 by Asa |
I was at Cheltenham.
The goal was an absolute joke of a freak gust of wind that held up a ball that initially looked like it was going to drop in the 6 yard box, only for it suddenly stop in mid air a good 12 yards further out than that as Walton had started to commit.
Once Walton read it and came for it he had no choice but to continue and try and claim it once it was held up in case it then just got headed over him. He had a split second to make that call and had to then try and also win the ball without committing a foul as well.
It's really not even worth mentioning in the realms of keeper errors and they all make them. It wasn't a goalkeeping error. It was a proper Force Majeure goalkeeping event.
The one goal he conceded in about 1,000 minutes was because of a freak occurrence. It would be like blaming Forrest for being off his line when Jason Cundy tackled one in from 50 yards. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 13:11]
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I watched it on iFollow and posted similar at the time on here.
Very, very strong gusts of wind that came and went. If the gust had started 1 second earlier the ball would have dropped harmlessly near the centre circle.
Yes, it was a mistake, but a freak occurrence. | | | |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:42 - Jun 9 with 2528 views | Asa |
| Is Bart still living locally? on 13:36 - Jun 9 by itfcjoe |
It's up to the goalkeeper to deal with conditions and judge things with them in mind - I'm sure a lot of GK errors have mitigating circumstances but key is that they learn from them |
I agree to a point but, being there, I can't see what more he could have done.
Another example is the Collymore shot past Flowers via a divot. The pitch was covered in divots but you can't ask Flowers to deal with the conditions by not going low to cover the trajectory of the ball just in case it takes some mad deviation.
I thought Walton, Burgess and Wolfy largely dealt with the wind superbly on the day. The corner flags were at 45 degree angles throughout. Windiest game of football I can remember for some time, very similar to Liverpool in the FA Cup in 1992.
It's just not reasonable to expect Walton to have done anything differently than read the flight of the ball for the first 30 yards and be where you'd expect him to be at that stage, prior to a complete change in wind direction. | | | |
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