| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) 18:25 - Aug 11 with 3929 views | itfcjoe |
When you read what was said about Kyle Edwards:
“Just with the Carabao Cup, to be honest, it was a decision to help Kyle as what we don’t want to do is tie him for the season for the sake of an appearance in that competition, where you can only play for two clubs over the course of a season.
“If he played some minutes the other night, that would possibly limit him with regards to loan moves or maybe a permanent move in this window or the next window.
“We made that decision with him that for the Carabao Cup, so he keeps his eligibility until the end of the window. And then after that, we will see.
I don’t see why we made the decision to bring Humphreys on for 20 minutes the other night.
If he is to go out on loan, it means that it has to be the absolute perfect loan.
If he rips it up we don’t have the option of pulling him back and sending him to a better team. If a manager changes and a club and he drops out of team we don’t have option of pulling him back and sending him elsewhere.
Just seems a bit careless and unnecessary when we are clearly thinking about these things.
Ditto Elkan Baggott, although he started and first time in a year McK had a good look at him so a bit more understandable [Post edited 12 Aug 2023 7:17]
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 18:32 - Aug 11 with 3649 views | Keno |
Maybe the expectation is with Can and Ellie that go somewhere too get league game time and then come back (January if needed)
But Kyle just wants to be settled in a team longer term |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 18:55 - Aug 11 with 3526 views | bazza |
I trust McKenna and his judgement. That is all I’ve got to say about that. |  | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 19:32 - Aug 11 with 3390 views | BiGDonnie |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 18:55 - Aug 11 by bazza |
I trust McKenna and his judgement. That is all I’ve got to say about that. |
Agreed. We're probably waiting to see who we bring in before making a decision on them both, which I'm fine with. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 19:58 - Aug 11 with 3319 views | Guthrum |
With Baggott, I think there was little alternative if we wanted to change both CBs for the match. There isn't really anyone else, without sticking people in other than their usual positions.
I do wonder if they are going to keep Humphreys around as a fully integrated squad member, albeit mainly a bench option. He can cover both midfield and more attacking roles, plus cup games. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 20:03 - Aug 11 with 3293 views | nodge_blue |
I think theres a real chance both dont go on loan and stay for the season. Especially if we dont get our targets. So i think it was seeing how they perform against decent L1 side.
And even then, im sure if a club really want one of them the cup thing is a bit of a red herring. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 with 2697 views | ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 07:03 - Aug 12 with 2626 views | Pique |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
No true Town fan would ever refer to Luongo in those terms after what he's done for us, so you've given yourself away there - just like you did when you referred to the 2000 Play Off final win as an 'anticlimax'.
It's the little mistakes that trip you up in the end. |  | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 07:23 - Aug 12 with 2543 views | AVJones |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
In your mind I presume there are still reserve teams, and the Combination League, to bring through young players - there aren’t. A shame, but a fact.
All well-run clubs aim to develop players through a mixture of experience of matches at a lower level (requiring them to go out on loan as no reserve teams) and training with the first team.
If and when they are ready they’ll play, as was shown last year with Humphreys. His issue is not capability, more it is about gaining strength and practising decision making. Lower risk to do that at a lower level, if needed. A judgement call as to where and for how long.
And why the need to insult a player? Did you call Beattie “arthritic Kev” because he had chronic injuries? My guess is not. | | | |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 07:39 - Aug 12 with 2449 views | xrayspecs |
I suspect the difference is the KE has no future at Town while CH and EB are being developed for the first team squad over next season or two.
We may not be able to sell KE this window, so the club (and player) want maximum flexibility, so no point him being cup tied.
For both EB and CH, it appears to be a close call between going out to get games and staying and developing with the group. CH is likely go get onto the bench with nine subs.
If either were to go out on loan this half season, then it would be to a club with the expectation that they get game time, else they come back to the first team squad in January. Alternatively, stay with the group until January, and then look for a single window loan.
EB will be a senior pro next season (CH has one further season as a U21), so you can see a 1-2 season pathway into the first team squad as senior pros, which may not need them to go out on loan. EB has had a few spells away from the club and has international experience. CH got game time last season and could be in the Phil Foden mode of learning at the club. [Post edited 12 Aug 2023 7:44]
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 07:55 - Aug 12 with 2341 views | BlueBoots |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 07:39 - Aug 12 by xrayspecs |
I suspect the difference is the KE has no future at Town while CH and EB are being developed for the first team squad over next season or two.
We may not be able to sell KE this window, so the club (and player) want maximum flexibility, so no point him being cup tied.
For both EB and CH, it appears to be a close call between going out to get games and staying and developing with the group. CH is likely go get onto the bench with nine subs.
If either were to go out on loan this half season, then it would be to a club with the expectation that they get game time, else they come back to the first team squad in January. Alternatively, stay with the group until January, and then look for a single window loan.
EB will be a senior pro next season (CH has one further season as a U21), so you can see a 1-2 season pathway into the first team squad as senior pros, which may not need them to go out on loan. EB has had a few spells away from the club and has international experience. CH got game time last season and could be in the Phil Foden mode of learning at the club. [Post edited 12 Aug 2023 7:44]
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Pretty much this...with Edwards we're protecting ourselves if we don't manage to find a buyer this summer. We won't play him before the window closes, as If we end up finding him a loan instead he'll be more visible to other clubs and it rules out the possibility of selling him to clubs other than the one who took him on loan/
With CH and EB, K McK is obviously happy with how well they're developing through training with the squad; with Edwards ruled out, it leaves us a couple of players light (23) of a full squad, so can't see us moving them on until we bring someone in. Plus, if they do go out on loan we'd be hoping for the kind of match we made with El Miz last season; if that didn't work out, both would be useful players to have back in the squad for the 2nd half of the season when injuries / suspensions could kick in. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 08:08 - Aug 12 with 2242 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
Enough already. We get yiu hate the club and it’s current owners, but this is getting tedious to the extreme.
Fook off to another club’s site if all you are going to do is moan. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 08:23 - Aug 12 with 2155 views | ArnieM |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
Ahhhhh poor bitter budgie. Not going well at carrot rooood for you is it! 6 easy points for Town this season. And I see Lush Delia has pocketed yet more money from selling off the Crown Jewels whilst she brings in ageing journeymen with their zimmer frames |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 11:38 - Aug 12 with 1897 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 19:58 - Aug 11 by Guthrum |
With Baggott, I think there was little alternative if we wanted to change both CBs for the match. There isn't really anyone else, without sticking people in other than their usual positions.
I do wonder if they are going to keep Humphreys around as a fully integrated squad member, albeit mainly a bench option. He can cover both midfield and more attacking roles, plus cup games. |
My gut feeling is that Humphreys has many attributes that would allow him to cover Full/Wing Back as well.
He deserves to be in our squad, in my opinion, based on his appearances last season, but, either way, needs game time.
Jack Taylor has come in ahead of him as a "Central Midfielder who can also play Number 10 type roles", though. | | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 11:49 - Aug 12 with 1841 views | BigCommon |
That's the thing though. Baggot and Humphreys both need the " perfect" loan. Otherwise they might as well stay here and continue to improve in and around our first team squad and staff...Baggot, for instance, has improved massively, according to KM, just over the last 2 months pre season. Which illustrates what a waste of time his Cheltenham loan was, second half of last season...
The language suggests, imo,that KM wants to leave as many options available for Edwards to be elsewhere, either loan or transfer, throughout the entire season.. He just appears to be out of KMs first team plans now, it would seem. |  | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 11:55 - Aug 12 with 1816 views | FBI |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
You just embarrassing yourself now. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:04 - Aug 12 with 1771 views | Ryorry |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
Why the hell are you still on this forum when you obviously hate us so much? |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:07 - Aug 12 with 1755 views | CrockerITFC |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
More like Bellephant in the room, with an emphasis on the bell |  | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:24 - Aug 12 with 1663 views | leitrimblue |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:07 - Aug 12 by CrockerITFC |
More like Bellephant in the room, with an emphasis on the bell |
Massive Bellephant in the room? |  | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:28 - Aug 12 with 1639 views | Ryorry |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:24 - Aug 12 by leitrimblue |
Massive Bellephant in the room? |
Or Massive BellInfant? | |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:31 - Aug 12 with 1624 views | leitrimblue |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:28 - Aug 12 by Ryorry |
Or Massive BellInfant? |
Yer, works just as well  | | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:34 - Aug 12 with 1608 views | Kropotkin123 |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
Baggott, "boxed in by lesser signed in players" such as academy graduate Woolfenden.
BudgieInTheRoom strikes again. |  |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 14:05 - Aug 12 with 1395 views | NthQldITFC |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 12:31 - Aug 12 by leitrimblue |
Yer, works just as well |
El Inphatile is my favourite, senor. |  |
| # WE ARE STEALING THE FUTURE FROM OUR CHILDREN --- WE MUST CHANGE COURSE # | | Poll: | It's driving me nuts |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 14:09 - Aug 12 with 1374 views | NthQldITFC |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 11:49 - Aug 12 by BigCommon |
That's the thing though. Baggot and Humphreys both need the " perfect" loan. Otherwise they might as well stay here and continue to improve in and around our first team squad and staff...Baggot, for instance, has improved massively, according to KM, just over the last 2 months pre season. Which illustrates what a waste of time his Cheltenham loan was, second half of last season...
The language suggests, imo,that KM wants to leave as many options available for Edwards to be elsewhere, either loan or transfer, throughout the entire season.. He just appears to be out of KMs first team plans now, it would seem. |
Everything KM has just said on the interview on Radio Suffolk suggests that the best 'development pathway' for Baggott might well be here, irrespective of limited competitive game time. | |
| # WE ARE STEALING THE FUTURE FROM OUR CHILDREN --- WE MUST CHANGE COURSE # | | Poll: | It's driving me nuts |
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| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 14:14 - Aug 12 with 1347 views | leitrimblue |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 14:05 - Aug 12 by NthQldITFC |
El Inphatile is my favourite, senor. |
As a nice cosmopolitan/ European feel to it | | | |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 14:37 - Aug 12 with 1260 views | BiGDonnie |
| I don’t get what we’ve done with Humphreys (and to an extent Baggott) on 06:29 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s franchise football - and you’re confusing it with what used to be Ipswich Town. Humphreys’ Town career ended with the signing of the arthritic Aussie. And the coffin was nailed by prioritising the signing of yet another bloke from Posh. Baggott is similarly boxed in by lesser signed in players when it was clear he could be very good years ago.
Must be dispiriting to be in and around the academy nowadays as it’s a pointless existence. Which I guess is the point Dyer made |
Why is this C-unit still allowed to post here. Weird. | |
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