| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo 09:36 - Oct 5 with 5713 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
More bizarreness from Tory Party Conference. When did 'jokes' just become blatant lies?
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:41 - Oct 5 with 3497 views | Keno |
He'll be for the chop if he brings that in |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:43 - Oct 5 with 3494 views | StokieBlue |
It's not bizarre, it's deliberate "muddying of the waters" so that people not willing to do their research or believe the media will just remember the soundbite.
It's very Trumpian, very deliberate and probably works.
It's much hard to disprove a negative than it is to continue saying it because the burden of proof switches to the person saying it's a lie rather than the person stating the lie and it's much easier to say many lies than it is to prove many statements are lies.
For instance, she could easily come up with 10 lies in a 2 minute interview but to refute those lies might takes hours of finding the proof. By that time the people who heard them and might have been swayed have moved onto something else, they won't see the rebuttal and all they will remember is that they heard somewhere that Starmer wants to tax meat.
It's a very sorry place we are in at the moment.
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:51 - Oct 5 with 3457 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:43 - Oct 5 by StokieBlue |
It's not bizarre, it's deliberate "muddying of the waters" so that people not willing to do their research or believe the media will just remember the soundbite.
It's very Trumpian, very deliberate and probably works.
It's much hard to disprove a negative than it is to continue saying it because the burden of proof switches to the person saying it's a lie rather than the person stating the lie and it's much easier to say many lies than it is to prove many statements are lies.
For instance, she could easily come up with 10 lies in a 2 minute interview but to refute those lies might takes hours of finding the proof. By that time the people who heard them and might have been swayed have moved onto something else, they won't see the rebuttal and all they will remember is that they heard somewhere that Starmer wants to tax meat.
It's a very sorry place we are in at the moment.
SB |
Absolutely no-one at the Tory conference is saying they are going to take away the children of people on benefits and sell them to the Chinese in order to make it easier for said scroungers to go out to work and stop receiving taxpayers' hard-earned wages.....
Although we shouldn't say that as it might give them ideas.... |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:52 - Oct 5 with 3447 views | GlasgowBlue |
Well people were saying that Starmer needs to beef up his policies. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:53 - Oct 5 with 3439 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:41 - Oct 5 by Keno |
He'll be for the chop if he brings that in |
But what does he stand for? He needs to put some meat on the bones. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:55 - Oct 5 with 3421 views | J2BLUE |
He should. That would be great. (Yes I know it is completely made up) |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:56 - Oct 5 with 3406 views | Keno |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:53 - Oct 5 by GlasgowBlue |
But what does he stand for? He needs to put some meat on the bones. |
you mean he need to fillet out a bit? | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:59 - Oct 5 with 3393 views | Pinewoodblue |
Will it be by inches or Cms? |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:59 - Oct 5 with 3396 views | lowhouseblue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:55 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
He should. That would be great. (Yes I know it is completely made up) |
it's completely made up. but meat becoming more expensive may well be part of people eating less meat (there is lots to suggest that this won't happen for lots of people as long as meat remains cheap). and we do need to produce less meat. so while the statement is made up, it is pulling at the threads of the climate change debate and trying to line people up against any change. which is pretty evil really. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:16 - Oct 5 with 3314 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:43 - Oct 5 by StokieBlue |
It's not bizarre, it's deliberate "muddying of the waters" so that people not willing to do their research or believe the media will just remember the soundbite.
It's very Trumpian, very deliberate and probably works.
It's much hard to disprove a negative than it is to continue saying it because the burden of proof switches to the person saying it's a lie rather than the person stating the lie and it's much easier to say many lies than it is to prove many statements are lies.
For instance, she could easily come up with 10 lies in a 2 minute interview but to refute those lies might takes hours of finding the proof. By that time the people who heard them and might have been swayed have moved onto something else, they won't see the rebuttal and all they will remember is that they heard somewhere that Starmer wants to tax meat.
It's a very sorry place we are in at the moment.
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There are still people who believe that the EU wants to regulate the shape of bananas. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:21 - Oct 5 with 3276 views | chicoazul |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:16 - Oct 5 by Tangledupin_Blue |
There are still people who believe that the EU wants to regulate the shape of bananas. |
The EU does regulate the shape of bananas. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:27 - Oct 5 with 3233 views | SmithersJones |
Presumably if she made that speech in the House of Commons she could be done for misleading the House. Labour should challenge her to repeat it (or, better still, challenge Sunak to do so). |  | | |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:52 - Oct 5 with 3134 views | homer_123 |
They've won my vote! |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:52 - Oct 5 with 3132 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 10:21 - Oct 5 by chicoazul |
The EU does regulate the shape of bananas. |
The fallacy is that they ban bent or curved bananas. It has never been true. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:25 - Oct 5 with 3047 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:43 - Oct 5 by StokieBlue |
It's not bizarre, it's deliberate "muddying of the waters" so that people not willing to do their research or believe the media will just remember the soundbite.
It's very Trumpian, very deliberate and probably works.
It's much hard to disprove a negative than it is to continue saying it because the burden of proof switches to the person saying it's a lie rather than the person stating the lie and it's much easier to say many lies than it is to prove many statements are lies.
For instance, she could easily come up with 10 lies in a 2 minute interview but to refute those lies might takes hours of finding the proof. By that time the people who heard them and might have been swayed have moved onto something else, they won't see the rebuttal and all they will remember is that they heard somewhere that Starmer wants to tax meat.
It's a very sorry place we are in at the moment.
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Indeed. It's disgusting. Shameful. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:32 - Oct 5 with 3027 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:52 - Oct 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Well people were saying that Starmer needs to beef up his policies. |
It wasn't so long ago you were warning us about the existential threat of Corbyn.
Is what we have now any better than what that would've been? | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:48 - Oct 5 with 2977 views | GavTWTD |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:41 - Oct 5 by Keno |
He'll be for the chop if he brings that in |
It sounds a very risky policy. I wouldn't brisket. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:50 - Oct 5 with 2974 views | J2BLUE |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:32 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It wasn't so long ago you were warning us about the existential threat of Corbyn.
Is what we have now any better than what that would've been? |
For the average UK resident, almost certainly not.
Russia has shown us how united NATO needs to be though and would imagine Ukraine would be in a much worse position if we elected Corbyn.
The UK has led the way on several key issues for Ukraine. They would not have our tanks or Storm Shadow missiles. Obviously the US has led the effort and i'm not claiming otherwise but the UK has been one of Ukraine's closest allies. I dread to think how it would be playing out with a divided NATO and Corbyn likely encouraging Ukraine to the negotiating table to give up territory. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 11:53]
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:14 - Oct 5 with 2853 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:50 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
For the average UK resident, almost certainly not.
Russia has shown us how united NATO needs to be though and would imagine Ukraine would be in a much worse position if we elected Corbyn.
The UK has led the way on several key issues for Ukraine. They would not have our tanks or Storm Shadow missiles. Obviously the US has led the effort and i'm not claiming otherwise but the UK has been one of Ukraine's closest allies. I dread to think how it would be playing out with a divided NATO and Corbyn likely encouraging Ukraine to the negotiating table to give up territory. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 11:53]
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Russia v Ukraine is a rather moot point as we don't really know what Corbyn would've done (particularly as it wouldn't all be down to him).
But yeah, I was primarily thinking about the residents of the UK. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:22 - Oct 5 with 2818 views | lowhouseblue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:14 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Russia v Ukraine is a rather moot point as we don't really know what Corbyn would've done (particularly as it wouldn't all be down to him).
But yeah, I was primarily thinking about the residents of the UK. |
we know exactly what he would have done because the prophet has spoken. to quote the guardian:
"Corbyn, by contrast, has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine, insisting that providing weapons will only prolong the conflict. “Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution; it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,” Corbyn said in an interview with a Beirut-based TV channel last August."
your only possible defence of him is that the rest of the plp would have had to unite to kick the old twerp out. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:28 - Oct 5 with 2782 views | J2BLUE |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:22 - Oct 5 by lowhouseblue |
we know exactly what he would have done because the prophet has spoken. to quote the guardian:
"Corbyn, by contrast, has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine, insisting that providing weapons will only prolong the conflict. “Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution; it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,” Corbyn said in an interview with a Beirut-based TV channel last August."
your only possible defence of him is that the rest of the plp would have had to unite to kick the old twerp out. |
You don't often see twerp these days.
Great stuff. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:35 - Oct 5 with 2750 views | BlueBadger |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:22 - Oct 5 by lowhouseblue |
we know exactly what he would have done because the prophet has spoken. to quote the guardian:
"Corbyn, by contrast, has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine, insisting that providing weapons will only prolong the conflict. “Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution; it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,” Corbyn said in an interview with a Beirut-based TV channel last August."
your only possible defence of him is that the rest of the plp would have had to unite to kick the old twerp out. |
And, like a large number of Tories, he was fond of occasionally turning out to defend Putin. Although unlike the Tories he appears to have been doing it for free. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:44 - Oct 5 with 2695 views | itfcjoe |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 09:43 - Oct 5 by StokieBlue |
It's not bizarre, it's deliberate "muddying of the waters" so that people not willing to do their research or believe the media will just remember the soundbite.
It's very Trumpian, very deliberate and probably works.
It's much hard to disprove a negative than it is to continue saying it because the burden of proof switches to the person saying it's a lie rather than the person stating the lie and it's much easier to say many lies than it is to prove many statements are lies.
For instance, she could easily come up with 10 lies in a 2 minute interview but to refute those lies might takes hours of finding the proof. By that time the people who heard them and might have been swayed have moved onto something else, they won't see the rebuttal and all they will remember is that they heard somewhere that Starmer wants to tax meat.
It's a very sorry place we are in at the moment.
SB |
Rishi is clearly taking advice at the moment from Dominic Cummings, his fingerprints are all over their current approach and attempt to try and be seen as a change candidate |  |
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