| Liam Gibbs 20:31 - Jan 7 with 5811 views | backwaywhen |
I read on the pinkun , yes I know it’s forbidden, they have an article on Liam Gibbs lack of progression since his arrival from south of the border .
Was he ill advised on jumping ship when he did , think he has definitely gone backwards since then , and yes he has played championship football with them ………but ! |  | | |  |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:33 - Jan 7 with 5105 views | FrimleyBlue |
Considering our best young midfielder is playing left back as the only opportunity he's getting. I dont think gibbs leaving was the wrong choice.
He has however found the same situation humphreys finds himself in... you can't trust young players when going for promotion. |  |
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| Liam Gibbs on 20:44 - Jan 7 with 4979 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
He couldn't have been ill advised as ITFC under Marcus Evans was a poor excuse of professional football club. |  | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:44 - Jan 7 with 4956 views | Stu_boy |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:33 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Considering our best young midfielder is playing left back as the only opportunity he's getting. I dont think gibbs leaving was the wrong choice.
He has however found the same situation humphreys finds himself in... you can't trust young players when going for promotion. |
I didn't realise norwich were going for promotion | | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:46 - Jan 7 with 4934 views | exeterblue10 |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:33 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Considering our best young midfielder is playing left back as the only opportunity he's getting. I dont think gibbs leaving was the wrong choice.
He has however found the same situation humphreys finds himself in... you can't trust young players when going for promotion. |
But Nodge aren’t going for promotion are they? I thought they were doing everything they could to avoid it. | | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:47 - Jan 7 with 4891 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:44 - Jan 7 by Stu_boy |
I didn't realise norwich were going for promotion |
You wouldn't think so. But financially they need it again soon otherwise they are fked with the loans that need to be repayed. | |
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| Liam Gibbs on 20:47 - Jan 7 with 4906 views | NthQldITFC |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:46 - Jan 7 by exeterblue10 |
But Nodge aren’t going for promotion are they? I thought they were doing everything they could to avoid it. |
They're dodging it because they've heard it might come with the obligation to lift a trophy. |  |
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| Liam Gibbs on 20:48 - Jan 7 with 4896 views | DarkBrandon |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:33 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Considering our best young midfielder is playing left back as the only opportunity he's getting. I dont think gibbs leaving was the wrong choice.
He has however found the same situation humphreys finds himself in... you can't trust young players when going for promotion. |
This is just nonsense though. Humph isn’t getting game time because we are a better side now than when he broke into the side.
Our position in the league has nothing to do with it. |  | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:53 - Jan 7 with 4807 views | Keno |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:33 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Considering our best young midfielder is playing left back as the only opportunity he's getting. I dont think gibbs leaving was the wrong choice.
He has however found the same situation humphreys finds himself in... you can't trust young players when going for promotion. |
Or maybe a young versatile player is being coached to play a wider range of positions by a manager and staff who see he has the potential to expand his game |  |
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| Liam Gibbs on 20:55 - Jan 7 with 4781 views | exeterblue10 |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:47 - Jan 7 by NthQldITFC |
They're dodging it because they've heard it might come with the obligation to lift a trophy. |
Nothing left to go for when you’ve won the Willhire. | | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 21:03 - Jan 7 with 4690 views | MattinLondon |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:33 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Considering our best young midfielder is playing left back as the only opportunity he's getting. I dont think gibbs leaving was the wrong choice.
He has however found the same situation humphreys finds himself in... you can't trust young players when going for promotion. |
‘You can't trust young players when going for promotion?
Can you trust a young inexperienced manager when going for promotion? I hope so or we would only go for experienced managers on the managerial old boys merry go round. |  | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 21:07 - Jan 7 with 4621 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:48 - Jan 7 by DarkBrandon |
This is just nonsense though. Humph isn’t getting game time because we are a better side now than when he broke into the side.
Our position in the league has nothing to do with it. |
I agree but also Disagree.
There is no need for him currently, but if we were just plodding along without competing at the top end, I think we'd have seen more of him and not for example bringing in Travis on loan for this side of the season.
You also look at Baggott, left footed cb, a few brief appearances where he's done well shown his development has cracked on, yet never given that league appearance which you'd think would help the side having lost our left footed cb. I'm not saying that's wrong of KM not at all, just another example of how younger player don't imo get trusted when you're competing at the top end. Again not a management fault, I believe its the same of all managers unless you have a wondered, hence the sheer amount of youth loans that go on. [Post edited 7 Jan 2024 21:15]
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| Liam Gibbs on 21:09 - Jan 7 with 4593 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:53 - Jan 7 by Keno |
Or maybe a young versatile player is being coached to play a wider range of positions by a manager and staff who see he has the potential to expand his game |
Could be keno, could be. | |
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| Liam Gibbs on 21:20 - Jan 7 with 4482 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Truth is he made the right decision and has been given much more chance to progress where he is. He has had plenty of Championship football with them. He is nowhere near as good as Humphreys and he has had very little Championship football with us. Humphreys' progression will be well managed here. Had Gibbs stayed, I suspect he would be being loaned out with a view to selling him probably in League 1. |  |
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| Liam Gibbs on 21:42 - Jan 7 with 4265 views | PhilTWTD |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:44 - Jan 7 by Mach_foreignBlue |
He couldn't have been ill advised as ITFC under Marcus Evans was a poor excuse of professional football club. |
He left a couple of months after the takeover! Although, to be fair, he'd all but made the decision before that due to the poor contract offered under ME.
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| Liam Gibbs on 22:03 - Jan 7 with 4020 views | Churchman |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:53 - Jan 7 by Keno |
Or maybe a young versatile player is being coached to play a wider range of positions by a manager and staff who see he has the potential to expand his game |
For goodness sake don’t come up with sensible views like that.
The point with young players is that they develop at different rates and sometimes not at all. I’m sure Gibbs was right to escape the farce that was ITFC when Evans owned it and he went to Norwich as a good prospect.
It may be he had more promise than Humphreys but doesn’t now. It may just be he’s just plateaued for a while. He’s only 21. It may be that in a team and club that appears fractured, he’s not settled. He may regress and eke out a career in the lower leagues as Dean Bowditch did - one of the best yoof/young players I’ve seen in for ITFC in the post-Robson era. Who knows.
All I know is that the posters on Pinkun are in even more depressed mode than the cadre of negative people on here and are hammering every thing.
As for Humphreys, he was never going to get in front of Morsy and Luongo. With injuries and suspensions he might now. He’s clearly rated by McKenna and like Taylor his time will come. |  | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 22:32 - Jan 7 with 3820 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Liam Gibbs on 22:03 - Jan 7 by Churchman |
For goodness sake don’t come up with sensible views like that.
The point with young players is that they develop at different rates and sometimes not at all. I’m sure Gibbs was right to escape the farce that was ITFC when Evans owned it and he went to Norwich as a good prospect.
It may be he had more promise than Humphreys but doesn’t now. It may just be he’s just plateaued for a while. He’s only 21. It may be that in a team and club that appears fractured, he’s not settled. He may regress and eke out a career in the lower leagues as Dean Bowditch did - one of the best yoof/young players I’ve seen in for ITFC in the post-Robson era. Who knows.
All I know is that the posters on Pinkun are in even more depressed mode than the cadre of negative people on here and are hammering every thing.
As for Humphreys, he was never going to get in front of Morsy and Luongo. With injuries and suspensions he might now. He’s clearly rated by McKenna and like Taylor his time will come. |
Humphreys is technically and mentally really really good. Physically a work in progress. Has the mentality to make it. | |
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| Liam Gibbs on 22:41 - Jan 7 with 3755 views | Churchman |
| Liam Gibbs on 22:32 - Jan 7 by Nutkins_Return |
Humphreys is technically and mentally really really good. Physically a work in progress. Has the mentality to make it. |
I agree totally. I like him and think he looks like he’s going to be the complete player. He’s only 20. I’d like to see him get a run in the team sooner rather than later. | | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 23:28 - Jan 7 with 3571 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Liam Gibbs on 21:07 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
I agree but also Disagree.
There is no need for him currently, but if we were just plodding along without competing at the top end, I think we'd have seen more of him and not for example bringing in Travis on loan for this side of the season.
You also look at Baggott, left footed cb, a few brief appearances where he's done well shown his development has cracked on, yet never given that league appearance which you'd think would help the side having lost our left footed cb. I'm not saying that's wrong of KM not at all, just another example of how younger player don't imo get trusted when you're competing at the top end. Again not a management fault, I believe its the same of all managers unless you have a wondered, hence the sheer amount of youth loans that go on. [Post edited 7 Jan 2024 21:15]
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Not sure it’s about trust particularly, it’s more about whether they’re good enough vs others in the squad. Often they’re not yet, I think people often underestimate how brutal senior football is at this level, and how big the gap is between being a tidy youngster in academy football and U23’s vs. being ready for the rigours of competing with a mid career seasoned pro. Physically as much as anything else.
If Gibbs had’ve stayed here and McKenna now deemed him good enough, he would play. Same at Norwich I’m sure. I think that’s true of CH as well, but it’s hard to make a case for him ahead of Morsy or Luongo. Hutchinson is the same age as Humphreys (coincidentally born on the same day) and he’s played a decent amount and started in big games like Southampton and Watford. Humphreys came into the starting XI for a big game against QPR when there were alternatives such as Clarke on the bench.
I don’t think there’s a lack of trust per se. If you’re good enough you’re old enough. |  | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 00:01 - Jan 8 with 3464 views | hoppy |
| Liam Gibbs on 21:09 - Jan 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Could be keno, could be. |
I don’t think it is keno, to be honest. |  |
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| Liam Gibbs on 01:59 - Jan 8 with 3294 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Gibbs should have stayed but at the time he left I don’t think anyone blamed him. Taking the rivalry out of the equation, they were a club trying to establish themselves in the Premier League and we were a club who couldn’t get in the League One playoffs let alone reach the second round of the Football League Trophy…
As for the Humphrey’s arguments, he’s come in twice during a patch of injuries and done exceptionally well in two positions. What more can you ask? He’s going to be a fantastic player for us in two years time. |  | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 08:42 - Jan 8 with 2878 views | xrayspecs |
Town have a reputation for developing small technically good players, who then struggle in senior football. Gibbs is of similar type. | | | |
| Liam Gibbs on 09:19 - Jan 8 with 2689 views | Keno |
| Liam Gibbs on 00:01 - Jan 8 by hoppy |
I don’t think it is keno, to be honest. |
it was a far to sensible post to have been keno | |
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| Liam Gibbs on 10:32 - Jan 8 with 2421 views | bournemouthblue |
| Liam Gibbs on 20:44 - Jan 7 by Mach_foreignBlue |
He couldn't have been ill advised as ITFC under Marcus Evans was a poor excuse of professional football club. |
Whilst I agree with the statement, it did seem a strange move at the time, given Nodge were in the Prem from memory?
He wasn't going to force his way in there, though I do appreciate as a Category 1 academy and Prem at the time, the fall can be less, even if you do move on so purely from a career point of view, it may have been a smarter move at the time.
He'd have certainly got chances at Ipswich, simply because we were crap, let's be honest.
He has gradually forced his way into the reckoning at Norwich but not perhaps as soon as he would have liked and probably got with us. |  |
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| Liam Gibbs on 10:35 - Jan 8 with 2399 views | DanTheMan |
| Liam Gibbs on 08:42 - Jan 8 by xrayspecs |
Town have a reputation for developing small technically good players, who then struggle in senior football. Gibbs is of similar type. |
Not sure why this is downvoted, thought this was well-known. I think Ashton even mentioned that we needed to make sure players were physically ready to make the step up and that they wanted to make progress there. |  |
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