Another Labour own goal 14:08 - Nov 13 with 4042 views | onceablue | Interest rates and inflation on the increase following budget So when they said our Budget doesn’t affect Working people they were lying |  | | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 14:24 - Nov 13 with 2550 views | itfcjoe | They said they weren't going to raise taxes on working people |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:26 - Nov 13 with 2538 views | The_Realist_09 | You can't expect to fix 14 years of mess without some pain. It's impossible by definition within our economic system. |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 14:39 - Nov 13 with 2450 views | Dubtractor | Stop making stuff up and claiming it as fact. Political debate is good, just being a budget Internet troll pumping out tory soundbites is bullsh1t. The interest rate came down only 6 days ago ffs. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:39 - Nov 13 with 2447 views | Swansea_Blue | Interest rates have been cut twice since Labour came into power, and once since the budget. The impact on inflation is still a prediction that the budget may increase inflation by up to 0.5% in the mid-term. Let's see what happens. Plus it's small beer compared to the changes we've been through over the last 2 years. On the flip side, you may get some public services that work. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:40 - Nov 13 with 2442 views | onceablue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:24 - Nov 13 by itfcjoe | They said they weren't going to raise taxes on working people |
Playing on words I am afraid cos most working people will have mortgages and be affected by increased inflation Businesses will have to increase prices or lay off staff due to the increase in NI so unemployment will increase I am sure. |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 14:43 - Nov 13 with 2407 views | ElderGrizzly |
Another Labour own goal on 14:39 - Nov 13 by Swansea_Blue | Interest rates have been cut twice since Labour came into power, and once since the budget. The impact on inflation is still a prediction that the budget may increase inflation by up to 0.5% in the mid-term. Let's see what happens. Plus it's small beer compared to the changes we've been through over the last 2 years. On the flip side, you may get some public services that work. |
Absolutely. The media obsesses about the tax rises, but forgets to mention the significant spending on public services it supports, rather than buying Michelle Mone a yacht. |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 14:43 - Nov 13 with 2403 views | J2BLUE | The Tories set the bar very low in their years of government. Surely you should give Labour a fair chance to sort things out? The Tories lowered NI by 2p as a risk free bribe. It either helped them stay in power or helped screw over the next government. What is your opinion of cutting that when we need money for everything from the military to the NHS to funding local councils? |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:44 - Nov 13 with 2397 views | DarkBrandon |
Another Labour own goal on 14:40 - Nov 13 by onceablue | Playing on words I am afraid cos most working people will have mortgages and be affected by increased inflation Businesses will have to increase prices or lay off staff due to the increase in NI so unemployment will increase I am sure. |
I imagine you opposed to introduction of and every increase to the minimum wage also. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
Another Labour own goal on 14:44 - Nov 13 with 2402 views | nodge_blue | Dubs has already fact checked this and said interest ratea have come down. So why post stuff thats not true to start with? The increase in national insurance may be passed on by companies in terms of increasing goods cost. But whats the alternative? A cut to public services and the country didnt like the austerity cuts previously and frankly our services seem to be on their knees. So there's little choice. And lets give it time. Dont go all Trump on us. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:46 - Nov 13 with 2365 views | onceablue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:39 - Nov 13 by Swansea_Blue | Interest rates have been cut twice since Labour came into power, and once since the budget. The impact on inflation is still a prediction that the budget may increase inflation by up to 0.5% in the mid-term. Let's see what happens. Plus it's small beer compared to the changes we've been through over the last 2 years. On the flip side, you may get some public services that work. |
Most mortgage lenders have put their mortgage rates up by .5% this week regardless of the reduction in base rate This is because they have to plan for the future and do not see further reductions in base rate You are so naive. Let’s revisit this in 6 months time and see where the country is? The public services won’t improve because more people will be using those services particularly the NHS which is still seeing the devastating effects of COVID ie, Cancer rates going through the roof due to late diagnosis etc |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 14:48 - Nov 13 with 2341 views | homer_123 |
Another Labour own goal on 14:46 - Nov 13 by onceablue | Most mortgage lenders have put their mortgage rates up by .5% this week regardless of the reduction in base rate This is because they have to plan for the future and do not see further reductions in base rate You are so naive. Let’s revisit this in 6 months time and see where the country is? The public services won’t improve because more people will be using those services particularly the NHS which is still seeing the devastating effects of COVID ie, Cancer rates going through the roof due to late diagnosis etc |
"Most mortgage lenders..." Are they Labour controlled Mortgage lenders? You, yourself has said revisit in six months, so what was the point of your OP? Even the Gov. of the Bank of England has stated that rates will drop. [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 14:52]
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Another Labour own goal on 14:51 - Nov 13 with 2305 views | Swansea_Blue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:40 - Nov 13 by onceablue | Playing on words I am afraid cos most working people will have mortgages and be affected by increased inflation Businesses will have to increase prices or lay off staff due to the increase in NI so unemployment will increase I am sure. |
Mortgages, you say? Hands up if you know which idiot spooked the markets leading to the largest jump in mortgage rates in years (probably decades actually). £300 a month that added to my repayments. Since then rates have been falling, have fallen recently and are expected to continue falling. I suggest you read up from some reputable sources about what is actually happening and then come back and try again. Unless you're just trolling, which is highly likely as most people wouldn't be this confident about being so ill-informed. The only thing you're close on is that the employer NI contributions will likely have an impact on some businesses, but the BoE thiks that's going to have at most a 0.5% impact on inflation. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:52 - Nov 13 with 2281 views | homer_123 |
Another Labour own goal on 14:43 - Nov 13 by ElderGrizzly | Absolutely. The media obsesses about the tax rises, but forgets to mention the significant spending on public services it supports, rather than buying Michelle Mone a yacht. |
Surely she needs needs another one by now? |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:54 - Nov 13 with 2269 views | onceablue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:51 - Nov 13 by Swansea_Blue | Mortgages, you say? Hands up if you know which idiot spooked the markets leading to the largest jump in mortgage rates in years (probably decades actually). £300 a month that added to my repayments. Since then rates have been falling, have fallen recently and are expected to continue falling. I suggest you read up from some reputable sources about what is actually happening and then come back and try again. Unless you're just trolling, which is highly likely as most people wouldn't be this confident about being so ill-informed. The only thing you're close on is that the employer NI contributions will likely have an impact on some businesses, but the BoE thiks that's going to have at most a 0.5% impact on inflation. |
Let’s chat in 6 months |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 14:59 - Nov 13 with 2229 views | Swansea_Blue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:46 - Nov 13 by onceablue | Most mortgage lenders have put their mortgage rates up by .5% this week regardless of the reduction in base rate This is because they have to plan for the future and do not see further reductions in base rate You are so naive. Let’s revisit this in 6 months time and see where the country is? The public services won’t improve because more people will be using those services particularly the NHS which is still seeing the devastating effects of COVID ie, Cancer rates going through the roof due to late diagnosis etc |
Some fixed rates are up, some are down. All trackers are down. The base rate cuts recently are factored into fixed rate deals that were set 2-3 months ago, as they were predicted (as you say, the lenders look ahead). Yes, let's revisit later. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 14:59 - Nov 13 with 2230 views | StokieBlue | A list of your recent posts is fairly interesting, literally all about Labour, most are factually incorrect and all posted to get at a subset of forum posters. Could go back further than the last 5 threads you've started but I couldn't be bothered. Another Labour own goal by onceablue 13 Nov 2024 14:08Interest rates and inflation on the increase following budget
So when they said our Budget doesn’t affect Working people they were lying
Boat crossings now out of control by onceablue 12 Nov 2024 7:56In the last 6 days 30 boats have arrived carrying 1806 people of which 1712 are men
It is now worse than under the previous government
This raises 2 questions
What are the labour government doing to stop this as they were adamant they could sort this ?
Unless all these men are single would you leave your wife and kids alone in a country where apparently there is persecution, war and lots of horrible things happening?
Warning - some Care Homes by onceablue 2 Nov 2024 7:08Are saying with the new NI Tax hike and increase in minimum wage they may be forced to close
GP’s are stating their services may also be affected by Job losses.
You didn’t really think this through did you Rachael - This really isn’t going to help the NHS
The Labour Party strikes again
Easier in opposition hey Kier!!!!! Labour hates hard working people by onceablue 1 Nov 2024 13:54What is the point in working hard all your life to obtain a decent standard of living.
All I wanted to do was work hard so we can make sure the kids are ok and the Labour goverment decide now even pensions are include in inheritance tax.
So everything I have worked hard for the government will take 40% of it back when I die when I have already paid tax on it
If the NHS is in such a bad state why didnt they put a penny or 2 on income tax and state this money is specifically for that purpose. They didn’t do it because they don’t want any Labour voters being affected by their Budget.
Everyone wants a decent NHS as we will all end up using it
Basically Labour demand all the people that don’t vote for them carry the majority of the Burden of the Country
This budget will destroy any growth for the Country even the OBR have down rated Labour growth predictions.
They have hit Employers hard which will mean eventually employees suffer which mean people will stop spending money and any growth will be impossible
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Another Labour own goal on 15:01 - Nov 13 with 2204 views | Dennyx4 |
Another Labour own goal on 14:51 - Nov 13 by Swansea_Blue | Mortgages, you say? Hands up if you know which idiot spooked the markets leading to the largest jump in mortgage rates in years (probably decades actually). £300 a month that added to my repayments. Since then rates have been falling, have fallen recently and are expected to continue falling. I suggest you read up from some reputable sources about what is actually happening and then come back and try again. Unless you're just trolling, which is highly likely as most people wouldn't be this confident about being so ill-informed. The only thing you're close on is that the employer NI contributions will likely have an impact on some businesses, but the BoE thiks that's going to have at most a 0.5% impact on inflation. |
To be fair, most major lenders have put up fixed rate mortgages this week. Average up by 0.25%, only marginal increases, but goes against the drop in base rate. This will have been influenced by an increase in swap rates, due to future predictions for interest rates. |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 15:03 - Nov 13 with 2180 views | reusersfreekicks |
Another Labour own goal on 14:46 - Nov 13 by onceablue | Most mortgage lenders have put their mortgage rates up by .5% this week regardless of the reduction in base rate This is because they have to plan for the future and do not see further reductions in base rate You are so naive. Let’s revisit this in 6 months time and see where the country is? The public services won’t improve because more people will be using those services particularly the NHS which is still seeing the devastating effects of COVID ie, Cancer rates going through the roof due to late diagnosis etc |
Yawn frankly. Bot-tastic |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 15:05 - Nov 13 with 2164 views | factual_blue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:59 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue | A list of your recent posts is fairly interesting, literally all about Labour, most are factually incorrect and all posted to get at a subset of forum posters. Could go back further than the last 5 threads you've started but I couldn't be bothered. Another Labour own goal by onceablue 13 Nov 2024 14:08Interest rates and inflation on the increase following budget
So when they said our Budget doesn’t affect Working people they were lying
Boat crossings now out of control by onceablue 12 Nov 2024 7:56In the last 6 days 30 boats have arrived carrying 1806 people of which 1712 are men
It is now worse than under the previous government
This raises 2 questions
What are the labour government doing to stop this as they were adamant they could sort this ?
Unless all these men are single would you leave your wife and kids alone in a country where apparently there is persecution, war and lots of horrible things happening?
Warning - some Care Homes by onceablue 2 Nov 2024 7:08Are saying with the new NI Tax hike and increase in minimum wage they may be forced to close
GP’s are stating their services may also be affected by Job losses.
You didn’t really think this through did you Rachael - This really isn’t going to help the NHS
The Labour Party strikes again
Easier in opposition hey Kier!!!!! Labour hates hard working people by onceablue 1 Nov 2024 13:54What is the point in working hard all your life to obtain a decent standard of living.
All I wanted to do was work hard so we can make sure the kids are ok and the Labour goverment decide now even pensions are include in inheritance tax.
So everything I have worked hard for the government will take 40% of it back when I die when I have already paid tax on it
If the NHS is in such a bad state why didnt they put a penny or 2 on income tax and state this money is specifically for that purpose. They didn’t do it because they don’t want any Labour voters being affected by their Budget.
Everyone wants a decent NHS as we will all end up using it
Basically Labour demand all the people that don’t vote for them carry the majority of the Burden of the Country
This budget will destroy any growth for the Country even the OBR have down rated Labour growth predictions.
They have hit Employers hard which will mean eventually employees suffer which mean people will stop spending money and any growth will be impossible
SB [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 15:02]
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So, more like onceanidiot then. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 15:16 - Nov 13 with 2102 views | Swansea_Blue |
Another Labour own goal on 14:59 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue | A list of your recent posts is fairly interesting, literally all about Labour, most are factually incorrect and all posted to get at a subset of forum posters. Could go back further than the last 5 threads you've started but I couldn't be bothered. Another Labour own goal by onceablue 13 Nov 2024 14:08Interest rates and inflation on the increase following budget
So when they said our Budget doesn’t affect Working people they were lying
Boat crossings now out of control by onceablue 12 Nov 2024 7:56In the last 6 days 30 boats have arrived carrying 1806 people of which 1712 are men
It is now worse than under the previous government
This raises 2 questions
What are the labour government doing to stop this as they were adamant they could sort this ?
Unless all these men are single would you leave your wife and kids alone in a country where apparently there is persecution, war and lots of horrible things happening?
Warning - some Care Homes by onceablue 2 Nov 2024 7:08Are saying with the new NI Tax hike and increase in minimum wage they may be forced to close
GP’s are stating their services may also be affected by Job losses.
You didn’t really think this through did you Rachael - This really isn’t going to help the NHS
The Labour Party strikes again
Easier in opposition hey Kier!!!!! Labour hates hard working people by onceablue 1 Nov 2024 13:54What is the point in working hard all your life to obtain a decent standard of living.
All I wanted to do was work hard so we can make sure the kids are ok and the Labour goverment decide now even pensions are include in inheritance tax.
So everything I have worked hard for the government will take 40% of it back when I die when I have already paid tax on it
If the NHS is in such a bad state why didnt they put a penny or 2 on income tax and state this money is specifically for that purpose. They didn’t do it because they don’t want any Labour voters being affected by their Budget.
Everyone wants a decent NHS as we will all end up using it
Basically Labour demand all the people that don’t vote for them carry the majority of the Burden of the Country
This budget will destroy any growth for the Country even the OBR have down rated Labour growth predictions.
They have hit Employers hard which will mean eventually employees suffer which mean people will stop spending money and any growth will be impossible
SB [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 15:02]
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It reminds me of the daily posts we used to get in the transfer windows back in the Evans days. 'XX days and still nothing". Repetitive nonsense. It also reminds me of a bot farm spreading propaganda (or that could just be a conspiracy!) It could easily be someone quoting the Daily Mail verbatim. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 15:18 - Nov 13 with 2094 views | Swansea_Blue |
Another Labour own goal on 15:01 - Nov 13 by Dennyx4 | To be fair, most major lenders have put up fixed rate mortgages this week. Average up by 0.25%, only marginal increases, but goes against the drop in base rate. This will have been influenced by an increase in swap rates, due to future predictions for interest rates. |
Shorter term fixeds of 1-2 years, yes. It's undoubtedly had an impact, but it's nowhere near as big an impact as the OP makes out is probably my main point. And it completely ignores the reasons behind the budget (to try and fix a lot of stuff that's been trashed over the last 14 years). |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 15:19 - Nov 13 with 2086 views | Cheltenham_Blue | The last time you posted anything football related on this forum was on October 6th. Since then you are regular as clockwork tooting your Tory trumpet. You lost, and in 5 years time you'll probably lose again, you can blame May, Johnson, Truss and Sunnak for moving the electorate toward labour and effectively writing Labour a blank cheque to do what ever is needed for the next four years. Be better, and then maybe you'll be back again. |  |
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Another Labour own goal on 15:20 - Nov 13 with 2075 views | J2BLUE |
Another Labour own goal on 14:54 - Nov 13 by onceablue | Let’s chat in 6 months |
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Another Labour own goal on 15:25 - Nov 13 with 2026 views | onceablue |
Another Labour own goal on 15:19 - Nov 13 by Cheltenham_Blue | The last time you posted anything football related on this forum was on October 6th. Since then you are regular as clockwork tooting your Tory trumpet. You lost, and in 5 years time you'll probably lose again, you can blame May, Johnson, Truss and Sunnak for moving the electorate toward labour and effectively writing Labour a blank cheque to do what ever is needed for the next four years. Be better, and then maybe you'll be back again. |
That’s why we have a general thread |  | |  |
Another Labour own goal on 15:29 - Nov 13 with 2004 views | onceablue |
Another Labour own goal on 15:05 - Nov 13 by factual_blue | So, more like onceanidiot then. |
You are nonfactual_blue on this occasion. So anyone who doesn’t agree with you is an idiot You would be great in our debating society |  | |  |
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