| What's harder to win? 19:02 - Jun 13 with 1965 views | SpruceMoose |
World Cup, Copa America or European Championships? |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:03 - Jun 13 with 1576 views | noggin |
Beating Bayern Munich while participating in the UEFA Cup. |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:07 - Jun 13 with 1545 views | SpruceMoose |
| What's harder to win? on 19:03 - Jun 13 by noggin |
Beating Bayern Munich while participating in the UEFA Cup. |
Well now I feel an idiot for missing such an obvious answer! | |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:12 - Jun 13 with 1518 views | noggin |
| What's harder to win? on 19:07 - Jun 13 by SpruceMoose |
Well now I feel an idiot for missing such an obvious answer! |
I don't think any team has ever done it. | |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:13 - Jun 13 with 1515 views | Giant_Midget |
For England, probably Copa America. [Post edited 13 Jun 2021 19:47]
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| What's harder to win? on 19:25 - Jun 13 with 1472 views | tractordownsouth |
World Cup... if the Euros was still 16 teams it would be a closer call, but the general standard has dropped so it's easier for teams to pick up momentum by beating crap - Austria today is a good example. It would still be a massive surprise if they win the tournament of course but in a World Cup you wouldn't be able to get some confidence early on by beating North Macedonia. Panama in the last World Cup are probably of comprabale quality but they were an exception to the rule - there aren't as many potential whipping boys as there are in the Euros. |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:25 - Jun 13 with 1464 views | Keno |
| What's harder to win? on 19:07 - Jun 13 by SpruceMoose |
Well now I feel an idiot for missing such an obvious answer! |
Missing that has really taken the goss off this this thread |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:26 - Jun 13 with 1458 views | dominiciawful |
| What's harder to win? on 19:03 - Jun 13 by noggin |
Beating Bayern Munich while participating in the UEFA Cup. |
Beat me to it. |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:27 - Jun 13 with 1457 views | WeWereZombies |
| What's harder to win? on 19:25 - Jun 13 by Keno |
Missing that has really taken the goss off this this thread |
It was a crook of a set up... |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 19:27 - Jun 13 with 1453 views | gtsb1966 |
When the Euros was down to the best 16 teams it was generally regarded as the hardest to win. Unfortunately as usual the people with the power have decided it needs to be changed for the worse. |  | | |
| What's harder to win? on 19:37 - Jun 13 with 1419 views | m14_blue |
| What's harder to win? on 19:25 - Jun 13 by tractordownsouth |
World Cup... if the Euros was still 16 teams it would be a closer call, but the general standard has dropped so it's easier for teams to pick up momentum by beating crap - Austria today is a good example. It would still be a massive surprise if they win the tournament of course but in a World Cup you wouldn't be able to get some confidence early on by beating North Macedonia. Panama in the last World Cup are probably of comprabale quality but they were an exception to the rule - there aren't as many potential whipping boys as there are in the Euros. |
I think there are generally far more weak teams in the World Cup than the euros, even with the (rubbish) extended format. |  | | |
| What's harder to win? on 19:39 - Jun 13 with 1408 views | SpruceMoose |
| What's harder to win? on 19:37 - Jun 13 by m14_blue |
I think there are generally far more weak teams in the World Cup than the euros, even with the (rubbish) extended format. |
That was what prompted my question to be honest. This year especially, England's route route if they're going to go deep in this tournament will involve having to beat some of the best teams in the world early on. I'm not sure that's always true of the World Cup. [Post edited 13 Jun 2021 19:48]
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| What's harder to win? on 19:46 - Jun 13 with 1383 views | m14_blue |
| What's harder to win? on 19:39 - Jun 13 by SpruceMoose |
That was what prompted my question to be honest. This year especially, England's route route if they're going to go deep in this tournament will involve having to beat some of the best teams in the world early on. I'm not sure that's always true of the World Cup. [Post edited 13 Jun 2021 19:48]
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Yeah, whoever wins this one is going to earn it.
We got to the semis in Russia without having to beat much, that can’t happen this time. | | | |
| What's harder to win? on 09:26 - Jun 14 with 1093 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| What's harder to win? on 19:25 - Jun 13 by Keno |
Missing that has really taken the goss off this this thread |
Yes, it was a bit of an own goal, wasn't it.
Oh no, different match. | | | |
| What's harder to win? on 09:48 - Jun 14 with 1036 views | ElderGrizzly |
| What's harder to win? on 19:37 - Jun 13 by m14_blue |
I think there are generally far more weak teams in the World Cup than the euros, even with the (rubbish) extended format. |
Indeed. Some of the teams that make it through from the Oceanic/Asia region are woeful.
Definitely a longer tail of quality in the WC vs the Euros.
edit: by longer tail of quality, I meant more poor teams. I didn't phrase that very well! [Post edited 14 Jun 2021 10:01]
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| What's harder to win? on 09:55 - Jun 14 with 1008 views | Pinewoodblue |
| What's harder to win? on 09:48 - Jun 14 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. Some of the teams that make it through from the Oceanic/Asia region are woeful.
Definitely a longer tail of quality in the WC vs the Euros.
edit: by longer tail of quality, I meant more poor teams. I didn't phrase that very well! [Post edited 14 Jun 2021 10:01]
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Think you only have to compare our current Euro group stage games to those in the last World Cup when we were grouped with Belgium, Tunisia and Panama.
Try doing the same with other major teams, if you want to double check. |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 10:00 - Jun 14 with 995 views | ElderGrizzly |
| What's harder to win? on 09:55 - Jun 14 by Pinewoodblue |
Think you only have to compare our current Euro group stage games to those in the last World Cup when we were grouped with Belgium, Tunisia and Panama.
Try doing the same with other major teams, if you want to double check. |
Sorry when I said "longer tail" I meant far fewer teams of quality.
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| What's harder to win? on 10:10 - Jun 14 with 961 views | chicoazul |
Copa America, no San Marino Gibraltar or Luxembourg games at that level. |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 10:13 - Jun 14 with 946 views | Wallingford_Boy |
One contains just European teams, one contains just American and one has everyone in the world in it.
Hmmmm tricky one.... |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 10:41 - Jun 14 with 888 views | Swansea_Blue |
It's probably hardest for England to win the Copa America.
Balls, beaten to it again. [Post edited 14 Jun 2021 10:42]
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| What's harder to win? on 10:48 - Jun 14 with 864 views | Sarge |
| What's harder to win? on 19:37 - Jun 13 by m14_blue |
I think there are generally far more weak teams in the World Cup than the euros, even with the (rubbish) extended format. |
I don’t get why this extended format is so bad. More games, longer tournament and a chance for some of the smaller nations to have a go. | | | |
| What's harder to win? on 10:55 - Jun 14 with 847 views | m14_blue |
| What's harder to win? on 10:48 - Jun 14 by Sarge |
I don’t get why this extended format is so bad. More games, longer tournament and a chance for some of the smaller nations to have a go. |
I don't mind more teams or a longer tournament, it's just the messy format - with some 3rd placed teams going through. Makes for so many dead rubbers in the group stages, particularly for the better teams - many of whom are pretty much through after one game.
If they really want to give smaller teams a go then just extend it to 32 teams and have a proper tournament.
They'd need to rethink qualifying then though. | | | |
| What's harder to win? on 11:07 - Jun 14 with 821 views | wkj |
The 3rd round of all domestic UK competitions. At least it is for us... |  |
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| What's harder to win? on 12:36 - Jun 14 with 736 views | blu_dru |
League One |  | | |
| What's harder to win? on 12:52 - Jun 14 with 709 views | SenatorBlue |
| What's harder to win? on 10:55 - Jun 14 by m14_blue |
I don't mind more teams or a longer tournament, it's just the messy format - with some 3rd placed teams going through. Makes for so many dead rubbers in the group stages, particularly for the better teams - many of whom are pretty much through after one game.
If they really want to give smaller teams a go then just extend it to 32 teams and have a proper tournament.
They'd need to rethink qualifying then though. |
Is there a dead rubber in the Euros? 4 points pretty much gets you to round 2, and 3 points gives a fighting chance too. In that situation no one is really out until the end of their final game. Hit round 2 and it’s big hitters all the way. |  | | |
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