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Starmer.... 09:45 - Sep 26 with 9268 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Starmer.... on 09:54 - Sep 26 with 2771 viewsGlasgowBlue

Did you draw the short straw and get the Sunday morning shift to moan about Starmer, with koonters taking over at lunchtime?
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Starmer.... on 10:01 - Sep 26 with 2750 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Starmer.... on 09:54 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue

Did you draw the short straw and get the Sunday morning shift to moan about Starmer, with koonters taking over at lunchtime?
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Nope just been listening to his weasel words on putting public services in public hands....or not!!

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Starmer.... on 10:10 - Sep 26 with 2726 viewsGlasgowBlue

Starmer.... on 10:01 - Sep 26 by BanksterDebtSlave

Nope just been listening to his weasel words on putting public services in public hands....or not!!


I bet they won’t even sing his name at next year’s Glastonbury. What a loser.

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Starmer.... on 10:12 - Sep 26 with 2721 viewsDarth_Koont

Starmer.... on 09:54 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue

Did you draw the short straw and get the Sunday morning shift to moan about Starmer, with koonters taking over at lunchtime?
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I’m waiting for lowhouse. He hates it when I start without him.

(But yes, Starmer is a complete void by any measure)

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Starmer.... on 10:15 - Sep 26 with 2700 viewsnodge_blue

I agree he needs some concrete policies and fast.

But he seems a decent guy to me.

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Starmer.... on 10:27 - Sep 26 with 2665 viewsMullet

Starmer.... on 10:15 - Sep 26 by nodge_blue

I agree he needs some concrete policies and fast.

But he seems a decent guy to me.


His stuff on education and private schools is excellent this week. So it'll never happen while people are happy to prop up a system of spiralling social inequality.

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Starmer.... on 10:36 - Sep 26 with 2624 viewsDigger77

Angela Rayner doing her best to make Labour unelectable again.
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Starmer.... on 10:37 - Sep 26 with 2618 viewsnoggin

Starmer.... on 10:15 - Sep 26 by nodge_blue

I agree he needs some concrete policies and fast.

But he seems a decent guy to me.


Lambert seemed a decent guy.

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Starmer.... on 11:17 - Sep 26 with 2547 viewsGlasgowBlue

Starmer.... on 10:15 - Sep 26 by nodge_blue

I agree he needs some concrete policies and fast.

But he seems a decent guy to me.


He just basicaly put out a 14000 word essay on what he believes and how he would move the country forward just this week.

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Starmer.... on 11:20 - Sep 26 with 2538 viewsHARRY10

Starmer.... on 10:27 - Sep 26 by Mullet

His stuff on education and private schools is excellent this week. So it'll never happen while people are happy to prop up a system of spiralling social inequality.


it won't fit well with the cap doffers - their betters not being able to claim their businesses are charities

it might help if Labour stated that was what it was about - not 'taxing' private education, merely removing the scam they have enjoyed for far too long

Much as with colleges like Trinity (Cambs), whose assets are £1.5 billion plus........ they own the land Felixstowe docks sits on, and the O2 arena amongst much other, however the income those assets generate is treated as charity "pass the port old fellow"

there is much that can and should be done in this and similar areas

it will no doubt cause howls of outrage from brexiteers " it haint right guv'nor, thems our betters, and the more moneys they have the mores the crumbs will fall from the table, gawd bless 'em"

stop the scams, close the loopholes and end the umpteen ways tax is avoided through claiming 'bogus' charitable status

a worthy read that highlights where the real problems lie within our society, and economy

https://www.monbiot.com/2019/06/12/landfall/
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Starmer.... on 11:27 - Sep 26 with 2511 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Starmer.... on 11:17 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue

He just basicaly put out a 14000 word essay on what he believes and how he would move the country forward just this week.


....and signed it David Cameron.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Poll: If the choice is Moore or no more.

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Starmer.... on 11:27 - Sep 26 with 2506 viewslowhouseblue

Starmer.... on 11:20 - Sep 26 by HARRY10

it won't fit well with the cap doffers - their betters not being able to claim their businesses are charities

it might help if Labour stated that was what it was about - not 'taxing' private education, merely removing the scam they have enjoyed for far too long

Much as with colleges like Trinity (Cambs), whose assets are £1.5 billion plus........ they own the land Felixstowe docks sits on, and the O2 arena amongst much other, however the income those assets generate is treated as charity "pass the port old fellow"

there is much that can and should be done in this and similar areas

it will no doubt cause howls of outrage from brexiteers " it haint right guv'nor, thems our betters, and the more moneys they have the mores the crumbs will fall from the table, gawd bless 'em"

stop the scams, close the loopholes and end the umpteen ways tax is avoided through claiming 'bogus' charitable status

a worthy read that highlights where the real problems lie within our society, and economy

https://www.monbiot.com/2019/06/12/landfall/


all universities have endowments to varying degrees which are used to fund charitable activities (research, student hardship etc) which are over and above their activities which are financed through publicly funded fees. university endowments and public schools are very different things.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Starmer.... on 11:32 - Sep 26 with 2483 viewsGlasgowBlue

Starmer.... on 11:27 - Sep 26 by BanksterDebtSlave

....and signed it David Cameron.


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Keir Starmer: Here is an essay about my values, politics and the beginnings of a policy agenda.

Banksy and Koonters today: Why has Keir Starmer written a long essay telling us what he stands for?

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Starmer.... on 11:37 - Sep 26 with 2458 viewsGlasgowBlue

Starmer.... on 10:12 - Sep 26 by Darth_Koont

I’m waiting for lowhouse. He hates it when I start without him.

(But yes, Starmer is a complete void by any measure)



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Starmer.... on 11:49 - Sep 26 with 2401 viewsHARRY10

Starmer.... on 11:27 - Sep 26 by lowhouseblue

all universities have endowments to varying degrees which are used to fund charitable activities (research, student hardship etc) which are over and above their activities which are financed through publicly funded fees. university endowments and public schools are very different things.


err yes, I think that is known

however much seems skewed towards simply increasing its wealth, as with

"follows Cambridge’s £350m bond issue in 2016, used to finance large-scale property developments in north Cambridge." and held investments in Arconic, the company responsible for the cladding on Grenfell tower

yet

"Despite Cambridge’s colleges alone sitting on assets worth just under £7bn, Queens’ College remains the only one accredited by the Living Wage Foundation"

Too much emphasis is on continuing wealth accumulation, and ensuring that the largesse finds its way into well connected pockets via endowments to fellows and unaccountable 'research' bodies'.

Reform is long over due.
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Starmer.... on 11:51 - Sep 26 with 2397 viewsSwansea_Blue

Starmer.... on 10:36 - Sep 26 by Digger77

Angela Rayner doing her best to make Labour unelectable again.


I like her. A ballsy, fiery red head who could order me around any day of the week. Seems to speak from the heart and with conviction, which are traits in short supply in Westminster.

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Starmer.... on 11:56 - Sep 26 with 2374 viewslowhouseblue

Starmer.... on 11:49 - Sep 26 by HARRY10

err yes, I think that is known

however much seems skewed towards simply increasing its wealth, as with

"follows Cambridge’s £350m bond issue in 2016, used to finance large-scale property developments in north Cambridge." and held investments in Arconic, the company responsible for the cladding on Grenfell tower

yet

"Despite Cambridge’s colleges alone sitting on assets worth just under £7bn, Queens’ College remains the only one accredited by the Living Wage Foundation"

Too much emphasis is on continuing wealth accumulation, and ensuring that the largesse finds its way into well connected pockets via endowments to fellows and unaccountable 'research' bodies'.

Reform is long over due.


charities can't simply increase their wealth - it must be applied for their charitable purposes. i suspect lots people on here also had exposure to that company through investments linked to their pensions - university endowments are no different in that sense, they tend to hold equities which their fund managers choose for them. i think the 'property developments' were for operational purposes - 'eddington' in north cambridge which is being used, amongst other things, for university key worker housing.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Starmer.... on 12:01 - Sep 26 with 2353 viewsGlasgowBlue

Starmer.... on 11:51 - Sep 26 by Swansea_Blue

I like her. A ballsy, fiery red head who could order me around any day of the week. Seems to speak from the heart and with conviction, which are traits in short supply in Westminster.


I agree. She’s genuine old Labour. Not some privately educated Islington loon pretending to be old Labour.

She’s seen the current shower up front and personal and concludes that a lot of the front bench are scum.

Should she apologise? No

Will she apologise? She’ll be forced to, otherwise her words will become this week’s story rather than Starmer’s vision for the country.

And I don’t find her words as offensive as the Tory MP who suggested a bomb be sent to the offices of Anneliese Dodds. Regardless of whether it was a joke or not. Oddly that isn’t getting the same coverage.

Some of us remember when actual bombs were being sent to our politicians at this time of the year.

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Starmer.... on 12:04 - Sep 26 with 2329 viewslowhouseblue

Starmer.... on 12:01 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue

I agree. She’s genuine old Labour. Not some privately educated Islington loon pretending to be old Labour.

She’s seen the current shower up front and personal and concludes that a lot of the front bench are scum.

Should she apologise? No

Will she apologise? She’ll be forced to, otherwise her words will become this week’s story rather than Starmer’s vision for the country.

And I don’t find her words as offensive as the Tory MP who suggested a bomb be sent to the offices of Anneliese Dodds. Regardless of whether it was a joke or not. Oddly that isn’t getting the same coverage.

Some of us remember when actual bombs were being sent to our politicians at this time of the year.


i don't find her words offensive, but we need to build up credibility and seriousness and i suspect for many of the people we need to win over this style suggests just the opposite. it is playing to the members (it is conference after all and she wants to be leader), but it won't win broader support. she's definitely old labour - the comparison to john presscot is actually a bit scarey.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Starmer.... on 12:05 - Sep 26 with 2319 viewsHerbivore

Starmer.... on 10:36 - Sep 26 by Digger77

Angela Rayner doing her best to make Labour unelectable again.


I make her right.

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Starmer.... on 12:10 - Sep 26 with 2291 viewsDarth_Koont

Starmer.... on 11:17 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue

He just basicaly put out a 14000 word essay on what he believes and how he would move the country forward just this week.


“How he would move the country forward” ....



It was basically the 90s re-heated. As if the last 20 years of neoliberalism failing, austerity, and the pandemic have been mere bugs rather than features. Or that the future and its challenges aren’t now very different.

On top of which that “vision” basically calls himself and his leadership pledges out for what they were ... Lies and deceptions to get elected.

There’s no vision there at all. The current Labour leadership and the powers ringing the throne are close to the Tories on almost every socioeconomic measure but their lack of competence and honesty is the bigger betrayal of the electorate. They’re going to gift the appallingly dishonest Tories the next election because they’re constantly proving politicians are “as bad as each other and can’t be trusted.”

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Starmer.... on 12:14 - Sep 26 with 2267 viewsHerbivore

Starmer.... on 12:10 - Sep 26 by Darth_Koont

“How he would move the country forward” ....



It was basically the 90s re-heated. As if the last 20 years of neoliberalism failing, austerity, and the pandemic have been mere bugs rather than features. Or that the future and its challenges aren’t now very different.

On top of which that “vision” basically calls himself and his leadership pledges out for what they were ... Lies and deceptions to get elected.

There’s no vision there at all. The current Labour leadership and the powers ringing the throne are close to the Tories on almost every socioeconomic measure but their lack of competence and honesty is the bigger betrayal of the electorate. They’re going to gift the appallingly dishonest Tories the next election because they’re constantly proving politicians are “as bad as each other and can’t be trusted.”


I can't imagine they'll gift it to them quite as decisively as Corbyn did.

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Starmer.... on 12:15 - Sep 26 with 2260 viewsSwansea_Blue

Starmer.... on 12:01 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue

I agree. She’s genuine old Labour. Not some privately educated Islington loon pretending to be old Labour.

She’s seen the current shower up front and personal and concludes that a lot of the front bench are scum.

Should she apologise? No

Will she apologise? She’ll be forced to, otherwise her words will become this week’s story rather than Starmer’s vision for the country.

And I don’t find her words as offensive as the Tory MP who suggested a bomb be sent to the offices of Anneliese Dodds. Regardless of whether it was a joke or not. Oddly that isn’t getting the same coverage.

Some of us remember when actual bombs were being sent to our politicians at this time of the year.


Sounds like I’ve missed some excitement. I’ll go and have a look at what she’s said.

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Starmer.... on 12:21 - Sep 26 with 2211 viewsDarth_Koont

Starmer.... on 11:37 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue



Which goes to show how little most people in the UK understand social democracy. And why should they, they’ve never seen it until Corbyn came along and that was called far-left socialism.

It’s boilerplate liberalism. Which I humbly suggest is nowhere near enough for the challenges facing the UK nor is it distinct enough from Boris. I can see the Tories easily continuing to outflank Labour on most issues because ruthlessness and expediency will always defeat weak principles.

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Starmer.... on 12:21 - Sep 26 with 2202 viewsleitrimblue

Starmer.... on 10:36 - Sep 26 by Digger77

Angela Rayner doing her best to make Labour unelectable again.


Yep, all those who hate feeding hungry children might never vote for them again
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