| The ego on Lampard is something else 14:53 - Dec 10 with 3113 views | MaySixth |
he's not very good yet he thinks he deserves, at minimum, at Championship job
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 14:57 - Dec 10 with 2734 views | Fixed_It |
When did you have this conversation with him? |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:00 - Dec 10 with 2683 views | giant_stow |
Well he blanked us (or at least said he did) so I agree. Think he needs to remember that as good a player as he was, as a manager, he's starting out fresh. |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:02 - Dec 10 with 2664 views | Keno |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 14:57 - Dec 10 by Fixed_It |
When did you have this conversation with him? |
Christine told him last night while she was in the staff bus queue at Ipswich hospital |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:02 - Dec 10 with 2664 views | azuremerlangus |
Kinda agree - £1m salary demand for a rookie manager (so the story goes when he was previously approached) is cheeky but then again he can get that just doing punditry.
Unless he is waiting for a ‘better’ option (whatever that means) then I would have thought we were at least worth a closer look. |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:03 - Dec 10 with 2638 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
How did you get to that assumption? |  | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:11 - Dec 10 with 2566 views | BlueNomad |
At least Harris has experience. (Not that I am advocating anyone because I'm just going to wait and see) |  | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:19 - Dec 10 with 2501 views | Chrisd |
If you thought we had any chance of him coming here, then I’ll have some of what you’re having. He’s just turned down the Canaries in the EPL, why would he entertain a club at our level? Sadly, we just aren’t that appealing in L1, project or not. | |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:21 - Dec 10 with 2476 views | jayessess |
He's entirely correct that he could get a Championship job quite easily. Scott Parker did. |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:25 - Dec 10 with 2420 views | Herbivore |
He was managing Chelsea not that long ago, we're a massive step down from that. Hardly arrogant, I'm sure he will get offers from higher up the pyramid than us. |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:34 - Dec 10 with 2326 views | J2BLUE |
Hardly arrogance. He should be targeting a good Championship job. |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:37 - Dec 10 with 2308 views | mrshallisfit |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:02 - Dec 10 by Keno |
Christine told him last night while she was in the staff bus queue at Ipswich hospital |
Am I allowed a 2nd post where I imagine Christine Lampard in a nuses uniform? | | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:39 - Dec 10 with 2297 views | hoppy |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:34 - Dec 10 by J2BLUE |
Hardly arrogance. He should be targeting a good Championship job. |
Is he one of the top 44 managers in this country at the moment then? |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:14 - Dec 10 with 2100 views | RadioOrwell |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:34 - Dec 10 by J2BLUE |
Hardly arrogance. He should be targeting a good Championship job. |
Why ?
Shouldn't he learn the job, achieve something and then go up the ladder. |  | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:29 - Dec 10 with 1977 views | jayessess |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:14 - Dec 10 by RadioOrwell |
Why ?
Shouldn't he learn the job, achieve something and then go up the ladder. |
Does it really work like that? If you're a high profile retired footballer then I'd say you're far far more likely to have a career as an elite level manager if you avoid lower league football entirely. | |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:55 - Dec 10 with 1817 views | RadioOrwell |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:29 - Dec 10 by jayessess |
Does it really work like that? If you're a high profile retired footballer then I'd say you're far far more likely to have a career as an elite level manager if you avoid lower league football entirely. |
Do you have examples ? | | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 17:01 - Dec 10 with 1765 views | Herbivore |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:14 - Dec 10 by RadioOrwell |
Why ?
Shouldn't he learn the job, achieve something and then go up the ladder. |
In his first job in management he did well enough at Derby to get the Chelsea job and he had a decent first season at Chelsea as well. The idea that he should drop down to the third division is a bit fanciful and accusations of arrogance for holding out for something better are rather silly. | |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 17:04 - Dec 10 with 1728 views | SomethingBlue |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 15:19 - Dec 10 by Chrisd |
If you thought we had any chance of him coming here, then I’ll have some of what you’re having. He’s just turned down the Canaries in the EPL, why would he entertain a club at our level? Sadly, we just aren’t that appealing in L1, project or not. |
He didn't turn Norwich down, they weren't going to appoint him. | |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 17:09 - Dec 10 with 1664 views | LeoMuff |
If he fails here his next stop will be league 2, and let’s face it we are the proverbial managerial graveyard, Jewell, Keane, Lambert have pretty much finished their careers taking us on.
If he got a lower prem job or championship then there is still scope for a sideways step. |  |
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 17:13 - Dec 10 with 1635 views | itfcsuth |
He was literally managing in the Champions League last season. He was on £75,000 a week. He’s finished 3rd in the PL, in to the knockouts of the Champions League, an FA Cup final, Championship play-off final.
He’s out of reach for us. He’d earn double what we could probably offer him to be a pundit, and not have the stresses of management. [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 17:14]
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 17:28 - Dec 10 with 1542 views | jayessess |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 16:55 - Dec 10 by RadioOrwell |
Do you have examples ? |
There are currently 5 elite level former players managing in the Premier League - Steven Gerrard, Mikel Arteta, Pep Guardiola, Patrick Vieira, Antonio Conte - only Conte has ever managed a first team outside a top national division (he managed a couple of teams in the Italian 2nd division).
In the Championship there's 2 more - Wayne Rooney and Scott Parker - both of whom have never managed a lower league team.
How many successful managerial careers have involved a proper elite footballer taking over a lower league club as a prelude to being a successful top level manager? I can't really think of any. League One is a quagmire. Even if you're a decent coach things might still go disastrously (because that's how lower league football is) and suddenly you look like a worse coach than Steve Evans. If it all goes brilliantly, what, you might get the Stoke City job and yet another chance for everything to go badly? [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 17:56]
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| The ego on Lampard is something else on 18:02 - Dec 10 with 1371 views | mylittletown |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 17:28 - Dec 10 by jayessess |
There are currently 5 elite level former players managing in the Premier League - Steven Gerrard, Mikel Arteta, Pep Guardiola, Patrick Vieira, Antonio Conte - only Conte has ever managed a first team outside a top national division (he managed a couple of teams in the Italian 2nd division).
In the Championship there's 2 more - Wayne Rooney and Scott Parker - both of whom have never managed a lower league team.
How many successful managerial careers have involved a proper elite footballer taking over a lower league club as a prelude to being a successful top level manager? I can't really think of any. League One is a quagmire. Even if you're a decent coach things might still go disastrously (because that's how lower league football is) and suddenly you look like a worse coach than Steve Evans. If it all goes brilliantly, what, you might get the Stoke City job and yet another chance for everything to go badly? [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 17:56]
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I Guess it depends what you call elite level, but Nigel Clough, Lee Bowyer, JF Hasselbaink, Joey Barton played for top clubs and for their countries.
Hasenhuttel played international football for Austria and in the Bundesliga, our Mogga played a good deal of top division football. |  | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 18:07 - Dec 10 with 1337 views | patrickswell |
Well in the one season he managed at Championship level, he got his team as close to promotion as it is possible to get without achieving it.
It’s clear though that he wants jobs which will give him a platform to be successful (I.e. a budget), which he wouldn’t have had had at Town in 2018. |  | | |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 18:09 - Dec 10 with 1315 views | jayessess |
| The ego on Lampard is something else on 18:02 - Dec 10 by mylittletown |
I Guess it depends what you call elite level, but Nigel Clough, Lee Bowyer, JF Hasselbaink, Joey Barton played for top clubs and for their countries.
Hasenhuttel played international football for Austria and in the Bundesliga, our Mogga played a good deal of top division football. |
They're all pretty good examples of the quagmire theory though, aren't they? None of them are very likely to end up managers at elite clubs. | |
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