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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 15:02 - Dec 20 with 2175 viewsJammyDodgerrr

If that's the plan, feels a bit pointless really. Omicron will have well and truly peaked by then, plus everyone done all the socialising over Christmas.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 15:10 - Dec 20 with 2156 viewsZx1988

If that's what's planned, it seems to be a case of Boris imposing as few restrictions as he possibly can, whilst still being seen to be 'doing something'.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:03 - Dec 20 with 2056 viewsBlueBadger

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 15:10 - Dec 20 by Zx1988

If that's what's planned, it seems to be a case of Boris imposing as few restrictions as he possibly can, whilst still being seen to be 'doing something'.

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LOL, 'abuse reported'.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:05 - Dec 20 with 2037 viewsNeedhamChris

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:03 - Dec 20 by BlueBadger

LOL, 'abuse reported'.


I didn't report it, but struggle to see how it isn't abusive

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:07 - Dec 20 with 2014 viewsStokieBlue

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:05 - Dec 20 by NeedhamChris

I didn't report it, but struggle to see how it isn't abusive


The first line is something I am sure many would agree with at the moment.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:09 - Dec 20 with 1985 viewsNeedhamChris

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:07 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue

The first line is something I am sure many would agree with at the moment.

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Are you saying accurate and abusive are mutually exclusive?

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:10 - Dec 20 with 1973 viewsStokieBlue

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 15:02 - Dec 20 by JammyDodgerrr

If that's the plan, feels a bit pointless really. Omicron will have well and truly peaked by then, plus everyone done all the socialising over Christmas.


It's highly doubtful Omicron will have "well and truly peaked" in just over 6 days time.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:10 - Dec 20 with 1949 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:07 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue

The first line is something I am sure many would agree with at the moment.

SB

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It is the 3 line strap line. I truly hate what this Government is allowed to get away with but that is not really helpful. It is a big step down from what Piers Corbyn has been arrested for but it is a step along that road.

I think we need to hold this Government (and a large proportion of the electorate) to account but driving division isn't the way to do so.

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People quite rightly oppose the Government.... on 17:17 - Dec 20 with 1857 viewsBloots

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:10 - Dec 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

It is the 3 line strap line. I truly hate what this Government is allowed to get away with but that is not really helpful. It is a big step down from what Piers Corbyn has been arrested for but it is a step along that road.

I think we need to hold this Government (and a large proportion of the electorate) to account but driving division isn't the way to do so.


....and in many cases the wider party due to their "politics of hate".

And then they come out with things like that strap line.

It really doesn't do anyone any good.

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People quite rightly oppose the Government.... on 17:34 - Dec 20 with 1773 viewschicoazul

People quite rightly oppose the Government.... on 17:17 - Dec 20 by Bloots

....and in many cases the wider party due to their "politics of hate".

And then they come out with things like that strap line.

It really doesn't do anyone any good.


Another day of outrage at the Tories and the government and still no change, it’s like they’re not even reading TWTD.

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People quite rightly oppose the Government.... on 17:47 - Dec 20 with 1695 viewsfooters

People quite rightly oppose the Government.... on 17:34 - Dec 20 by chicoazul

Another day of outrage at the Tories and the government and still no change, it’s like they’re not even reading TWTD.


Have they clamped down on drugs and cancelled comprehensive education yet? Taking their damn time, innit.

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People quite rightly oppose the Government.... on 18:07 - Dec 20 with 1608 viewsSwansea_Blue

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Have they clamped down on drugs and cancelled comprehensive education yet? Taking their damn time, innit.


Just waiting on the official 'line' from Gove innit.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 18:25 - Dec 20 with 1507 viewsitfcjoe

Why can’t they just announce it now? In due to go away on 27th so would be nice to know either way

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 18:25 - Dec 20 by itfcjoe

Why can’t they just announce it now? In due to go away on 27th so would be nice to know either way


Got the feeling today’s case number being slightly down on Friday has led to more dithering.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:28 - Dec 21 with 1146 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 17:10 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue

It's highly doubtful Omicron will have "well and truly peaked" in just over 6 days time.

SB


I think I used the wrong phrase. I just meant the level of infections will presumably be so high by waiting until the 27th, that it is likely to have zero effect because it will have spread so much already.

It's baffling we're almost two years into this, and the government still haven't learned that if you're going to do restrictions, sooner is always better.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:31 - Dec 21 with 1128 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 18:25 - Dec 20 by itfcjoe

Why can’t they just announce it now? In due to go away on 27th so would be nice to know either way


Pure guess but I reckon it’s already been decided to bring in measures from the 27th/28th but just holding off to prevent people going wild over the next few days, and chaos in the shops etc

Announcement late Xmas Eve or on Boxing Day is my bet

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:32 - Dec 21 with 1122 viewsStokieBlue

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:28 - Dec 21 by JammyDodgerrr

I think I used the wrong phrase. I just meant the level of infections will presumably be so high by waiting until the 27th, that it is likely to have zero effect because it will have spread so much already.

It's baffling we're almost two years into this, and the government still haven't learned that if you're going to do restrictions, sooner is always better.


Ah, yes that is correct, it would be surprising if the numbers didn't continue to increase as Omicron takes hold throughout the rest of the country.

I see businesses are getting upset now and rightly so. Many are saying just tell us now if there are going to be restrictions rather than waiting and waiting and then dumping them immediately so they can plan what they need to do.

A quote today from the WHO (who I haven't always agreed with during the pandemic):

WHO head Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has said it is better to "cancel now and celebrate later, than to celebrate now and grieve later" in the context of rising Omicron cases over the festive period."

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:47 - Dec 21 with 1021 viewsStokieBlue

I see that IDS is today pushing the narrative that the effect that lockdowns have on peoples lives is as bad as going into hospital.

Barclay is pushing the "economic consequences" narrative and saying people can protect their families by getting the booster which isn't really correct at this point as it won't have time to take effect before Christmas and it won't stop transmission which is still bad if the family don't have a fully working booster.

There are valid morsels in both of those stances but there are also massive untruths and fallacies. Either they don't have a clue or they are deliberately muddying the waters with their statements.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:55 - Dec 21 with 964 viewsPinewoodblue

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:28 - Dec 21 by JammyDodgerrr

I think I used the wrong phrase. I just meant the level of infections will presumably be so high by waiting until the 27th, that it is likely to have zero effect because it will have spread so much already.

It's baffling we're almost two years into this, and the government still haven't learned that if you're going to do restrictions, sooner is always better.


What baffles me is why people ignore guidance but then complain, once restrictions are made mandatory , that Government hasn’t acted quick enough.

BJ may be a stranger to the truth so it doesn’t make sense to wait until he tells you must do something rather than you should do it.

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Could be back to step two from the 27th on 10:02 - Dec 21 with 925 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Could be back to step two from the 27th on 09:47 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue

I see that IDS is today pushing the narrative that the effect that lockdowns have on peoples lives is as bad as going into hospital.

Barclay is pushing the "economic consequences" narrative and saying people can protect their families by getting the booster which isn't really correct at this point as it won't have time to take effect before Christmas and it won't stop transmission which is still bad if the family don't have a fully working booster.

There are valid morsels in both of those stances but there are also massive untruths and fallacies. Either they don't have a clue or they are deliberately muddying the waters with their statements.

SB


"Either they don't have a clue or they are deliberately muddying the waters with their statements."

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