| Ian Westlake 19:49 - Jul 4 with 3075 views | OwainG1992 |
Briefly mentioned on another thread.
My word he was a talent that lad.
I always thought he was destined for so much more.
Felt similar about Bowditch and Billy Clarke. |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 19:54 - Jul 4 with 2365 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
The hype around Billy Clarke....but also so many others, who was the last really good academy player to come though? Dyer, Ambrose, Bramble for me, not much springs to mind since then. Even those that made a decent career, Marriot, Rhodes have under achieved compared to the hype around them?
Where is Jack Marriot now? I genuinely can't tell you without googling it. |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 19:55 - Jul 4 with 2341 views | FifeITFC |
| Ian Westlake on 19:54 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The hype around Billy Clarke....but also so many others, who was the last really good academy player to come though? Dyer, Ambrose, Bramble for me, not much springs to mind since then. Even those that made a decent career, Marriot, Rhodes have under achieved compared to the hype around them?
Where is Jack Marriot now? I genuinely can't tell you without googling it. |
I thought Jack Marriot was at Derby or Peterborough? |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 19:59 - Jul 4 with 2319 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Ian Westlake on 19:54 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The hype around Billy Clarke....but also so many others, who was the last really good academy player to come though? Dyer, Ambrose, Bramble for me, not much springs to mind since then. Even those that made a decent career, Marriot, Rhodes have under achieved compared to the hype around them?
Where is Jack Marriot now? I genuinely can't tell you without googling it. |
Downes is clearly worth a mention, on the verge of playing in the Prem. Wickham was a talent too.
Also, the likes of Dyer would probably be poached before making a first team appearance these days. Like Knight or Flores. |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 20:25 - Jul 4 with 2172 views | davblue |
really? He was a good athlete but technically lacking. Had a dream season 1st season but he got into that side because we didn't have any money and he had a left foot. |  | | |
| Ian Westlake on 20:27 - Jul 4 with 2156 views | StokieBlue |
| Ian Westlake on 19:54 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The hype around Billy Clarke....but also so many others, who was the last really good academy player to come though? Dyer, Ambrose, Bramble for me, not much springs to mind since then. Even those that made a decent career, Marriot, Rhodes have under achieved compared to the hype around them?
Where is Jack Marriot now? I genuinely can't tell you without googling it. |
It would have been Wickham if he hadn't been constantly injured.
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| Ian Westlake on 20:44 - Jul 4 with 2102 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Ian Westlake on 19:59 - Jul 4 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Downes is clearly worth a mention, on the verge of playing in the Prem. Wickham was a talent too.
Also, the likes of Dyer would probably be poached before making a first team appearance these days. Like Knight or Flores. |
Downes may be a player, Dyer to Downes is long wait. Is Martiot at Derby or Posh? Literally no idea, haven't heard his name mentioned in so long.
Maybe not Dyer, home town boy with a genuine connection with the club but you're point stands as a rule in this day and age | |
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| Ian Westlake on 21:01 - Jul 4 with 1987 views | ParisBlue |
| Ian Westlake on 19:54 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The hype around Billy Clarke....but also so many others, who was the last really good academy player to come though? Dyer, Ambrose, Bramble for me, not much springs to mind since then. Even those that made a decent career, Marriot, Rhodes have under achieved compared to the hype around them?
Where is Jack Marriot now? I genuinely can't tell you without googling it. |
Darren Bent did ok |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 21:37 - Jul 4 with 1904 views | homer_123 |
Shame his knees let him down eventually.
Heavily underrated player IMHO [Post edited 4 Jul 2022 21:39]
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| Ian Westlake on 21:41 - Jul 4 with 1882 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ian Westlake on 21:37 - Jul 4 by homer_123 |
Shame his knees let him down eventually.
Heavily underrated player IMHO [Post edited 4 Jul 2022 21:39]
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If you want the best dough, you certainly need a good kneed. |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 21:41 - Jul 4 with 1878 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Ian Westlake on 21:01 - Jul 4 by ParisBlue |
Darren Bent did ok |
Bent, good shout still though, now retired still going back what, 15 years since he came through? | |
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| Ian Westlake on 21:42 - Jul 4 with 1872 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Ian Westlake on 19:54 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The hype around Billy Clarke....but also so many others, who was the last really good academy player to come though? Dyer, Ambrose, Bramble for me, not much springs to mind since then. Even those that made a decent career, Marriot, Rhodes have under achieved compared to the hype around them?
Where is Jack Marriot now? I genuinely can't tell you without googling it. |
Woolfie has done pretty well... |  | | |
| Ian Westlake on 21:43 - Jul 4 with 1875 views | Swansea_Blue |
FWIW, I really liked the partnership he and Richards had down the left. Not a lot of people seemed to agree at the time though! They were the least of our problems and in hindsight we've struggled to have such and effective partnership on that side since. | |
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| Ian Westlake on 21:46 - Jul 4 with 1870 views | MattinLondon |
| Ian Westlake on 21:43 - Jul 4 by Swansea_Blue |
FWIW, I really liked the partnership he and Richards had down the left. Not a lot of people seemed to agree at the time though! They were the least of our problems and in hindsight we've struggled to have such and effective partnership on that side since. |
Matt Richards was treated really badly here. Not the best player we’ve ever had but far worse have been given a far easier ride than him. |  | | |
| Ian Westlake on 21:47 - Jul 4 with 1857 views | itfc_bucks |
| Ian Westlake on 21:43 - Jul 4 by Swansea_Blue |
FWIW, I really liked the partnership he and Richards had down the left. Not a lot of people seemed to agree at the time though! They were the least of our problems and in hindsight we've struggled to have such and effective partnership on that side since. |
Shame our financial situation was what it was then. Matt Richards was a far better LM than LB and, had we had a pot to piss in even, we would've had someone else in at LB, pushed Richards on and brought westy inside.
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| Ian Westlake on 21:48 - Jul 4 with 1850 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ian Westlake on 21:41 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Bent, good shout still though, now retired still going back what, 15 years since he came through? |
15 years in which we have been operating outside the top flight too. In that time we have brought through plenty who have played at the same level as us and a few who have gone onto play higher. Of course, it would be better still if we could have an academy like Southampton's when they were at this level but that is the exception and not the rule.
Additionally, the last 15 years has seen poor investment in the academy. Didn't Keane let Klug go for a while too? That will have set the academy back for some time until after he returned. How long after a player starts working with the academy before they come through? |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 21:58 - Jul 4 with 1802 views | homer_123 |
| Ian Westlake on 21:46 - Jul 4 by MattinLondon |
Matt Richards was treated really badly here. Not the best player we’ve ever had but far worse have been given a far easier ride than him. |
Ahem - I am sure there were some 'Richards for England' chants at some point - or was that Clapham? | |
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| Ian Westlake on 22:08 - Jul 4 with 1763 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Ian Westlake on 21:43 - Jul 4 by Swansea_Blue |
FWIW, I really liked the partnership he and Richards had down the left. Not a lot of people seemed to agree at the time though! They were the least of our problems and in hindsight we've struggled to have such and effective partnership on that side since. |
Completely agree, they developed a really good understanding, and it only really came unstuck when the crowd got on Richards' back and seemed to irreparably knock his confidence. | | | |
| Ian Westlake on 22:17 - Jul 4 with 1716 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Ian Westlake on 21:48 - Jul 4 by Nthsuffolkblue |
15 years in which we have been operating outside the top flight too. In that time we have brought through plenty who have played at the same level as us and a few who have gone onto play higher. Of course, it would be better still if we could have an academy like Southampton's when they were at this level but that is the exception and not the rule.
Additionally, the last 15 years has seen poor investment in the academy. Didn't Keane let Klug go for a while too? That will have set the academy back for some time until after he returned. How long after a player starts working with the academy before they come through? |
I'm not saying we haven't produced players who had good careers, I'd kill for Jordan Rhodes career, less the Nodge blip, but how many players have we produced that lived up to the buzz since say 2000? [Post edited 4 Jul 2022 22:28]
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| Ian Westlake on 22:26 - Jul 4 with 1678 views | MattinLondon |
| Ian Westlake on 21:58 - Jul 4 by homer_123 |
Ahem - I am sure there were some 'Richards for England' chants at some point - or was that Clapham? |
Clapham, definitely Clapham. | | | |
| Ian Westlake on 22:26 - Jul 4 with 1691 views | XYZ |
Didn't Bully start some fictitious transfer rumour on here about him joining Leeds (?) that ended up in one of the nationals? | | | |
| Ian Westlake on 23:23 - Jul 4 with 1553 views | mylittletown |
| Ian Westlake on 20:44 - Jul 4 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Downes may be a player, Dyer to Downes is long wait. Is Martiot at Derby or Posh? Literally no idea, haven't heard his name mentioned in so long.
Maybe not Dyer, home town boy with a genuine connection with the club but you're point stands as a rule in this day and age |
Darren Bent.
(As mentioned by another poster) An England player, and actually seemed to understand his debt to ITFC. [Post edited 4 Jul 2022 23:25]
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| Ian Westlake on 23:36 - Jul 4 with 1495 views | BondiBlue |
| Ian Westlake on 22:26 - Jul 4 by XYZ |
Didn't Bully start some fictitious transfer rumour on here about him joining Leeds (?) that ended up in one of the nationals? |
Westlake? He did go to Leeds. Does this mean Leeds also fell for the ficticious rumour and submitted all the necessary paperwork? | |
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| Ian Westlake on 23:54 - Jul 4 with 1446 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ian Westlake on 23:36 - Jul 4 by BondiBlue |
Westlake? He did go to Leeds. Does this mean Leeds also fell for the ficticious rumour and submitted all the necessary paperwork? |
Back when Leeds were a step down. Cheers Marcus for you hopeless stewardship! | |
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| Ian Westlake on 23:57 - Jul 4 with 1445 views | textbackup |
See him on the school run most days, he runs the kesgrave kestrels girls under 10's i think |  |
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| Ian Westlake on 23:58 - Jul 4 with 1439 views | Churchman |
| Ian Westlake on 23:23 - Jul 4 by mylittletown |
Darren Bent.
(As mentioned by another poster) An England player, and actually seemed to understand his debt to ITFC. [Post edited 4 Jul 2022 23:25]
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Yep, Darren Bent for me too. He genuinely looked like he’d make the grade in the PL almost from the off. And most of his career was subsequently played at that level and for his country. Different level to what followed.
Biggest disappointment was Bowditch. At 16, what talent. Like many players, he just never kicked on. Tbf, he made a good career in the lower leagues and very few people achieve that, but I just thought he was an outstanding prospect as a yoof/start of his senior career. |  | | |
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