Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. 14:39 - Jul 7 with 3602 views | OwainG1992 | They tried and failed in the end result for years in the championship. Just chatting with a Huddersfield supporter regarding why their manager had left. Explained a key number one target was Hourihane. Earning significantly more at Derby than they could afford in the championship. Which was the straw to break the camels back. With all my heart I want Derby to fail miserablely. That's all folks. #uppatowen |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:42 - Jul 7 with 3556 views | ElderGrizzly | As covered earlier on a thread, they can't. Derby have to get approval for every player signed by the EFL and aren't allowed to lose money for 2 years. How that equates to trying to build a promotion challenge in L1 i'm not sure. They'll have 30k crowds, but that won't be enough. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:49 - Jul 7 with 3497 views | GeoffSentence | quick reminder. we have just tabled a £1m bid for a left back. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:51 - Jul 7 with 3480 views | SamWhiteUK |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:49 - Jul 7 by GeoffSentence | quick reminder. we have just tabled a £1m bid for a left back. |
Quick reminder, we're not the absolute basket case that Derby are, we don't have significant financial woes, and we haven't just been scrambling for our lives only to be let off the hook by the EFL. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:58 - Jul 7 with 3412 views | GeoffSentence |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:51 - Jul 7 by SamWhiteUK | Quick reminder, we're not the absolute basket case that Derby are, we don't have significant financial woes, and we haven't just been scrambling for our lives only to be let off the hook by the EFL. |
Indeed we haven't. But with reference to the title of the OP, it lacks self awareness given our spending power. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:03 - Jul 7 with 3363 views | Metal_Hacker | If Derby go up at their first attempt then good luck to them - bl00dy hope they don't and I desperately hope they implode but like I say if they do then so be it Whoever goes up at their first attempt damn well deserves it but I have my suspicions they won't - player turnover and the unsettled nature of the club for the last few years won't help Us and SWFC for top 2 |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:03 - Jul 7 with 3362 views | jayessess |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:51 - Jul 7 by SamWhiteUK | Quick reminder, we're not the absolute basket case that Derby are, we don't have significant financial woes, and we haven't just been scrambling for our lives only to be let off the hook by the EFL. |
In reality, we know no more about the finances behind our spending than Derby fans did at the beginning Mel Morris' reign. I wish people could see how hubristic all this finger-pointing from the moral high ground is. It is likely that the League One club with the wage bill most out of proportion to its income is ... us, not the club with 12 players currently on their books (and half of them academy products). If it goes well it'll be because we got lucky with our investors, not because the club was more morally pure or because its fanbase more vigilant to financial mis-management. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:09 - Jul 7 with 3317 views | SamWhiteUK |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:03 - Jul 7 by jayessess | In reality, we know no more about the finances behind our spending than Derby fans did at the beginning Mel Morris' reign. I wish people could see how hubristic all this finger-pointing from the moral high ground is. It is likely that the League One club with the wage bill most out of proportion to its income is ... us, not the club with 12 players currently on their books (and half of them academy products). If it goes well it'll be because we got lucky with our investors, not because the club was more morally pure or because its fanbase more vigilant to financial mis-management. |
Perhaps true - but the whole point of the OP is saying that Derby have outspent Huddersfield for a particular player, when they've just been "saved" and arguably should have been ejected from the league. Why everyone is trying to link it back to us and our spending, I'm not sure. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:13 - Jul 7 with 3271 views | GeoffSentence |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:09 - Jul 7 by SamWhiteUK | Perhaps true - but the whole point of the OP is saying that Derby have outspent Huddersfield for a particular player, when they've just been "saved" and arguably should have been ejected from the league. Why everyone is trying to link it back to us and our spending, I'm not sure. |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:16 - Jul 7 with 3240 views | SheffordBlue |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:42 - Jul 7 by ElderGrizzly | As covered earlier on a thread, they can't. Derby have to get approval for every player signed by the EFL and aren't allowed to lose money for 2 years. How that equates to trying to build a promotion challenge in L1 i'm not sure. They'll have 30k crowds, but that won't be enough. |
It does seem like they are focussing a decent proportion of the budget on a few players. Putting all their slightly old and fragile eggs in one basket so to speak. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:22 - Jul 7 with 3195 views | jayessess |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:09 - Jul 7 by SamWhiteUK | Perhaps true - but the whole point of the OP is saying that Derby have outspent Huddersfield for a particular player, when they've just been "saved" and arguably should have been ejected from the league. Why everyone is trying to link it back to us and our spending, I'm not sure. |
The OP claimed Derby were "attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys". Reasonable to point out that we might want to look closer to home on that score. Derby's punishment for Morris' financial mis-management was that they got relegated and now have to keep to a break even budget. But that's still going to be a big budget for the division and might well leave them space to offer more in wages to Conor Hourihane than the directors at Huddersfield were prepared to countenance. It's not unfair on us or anyone else in this division that Derby are allowed to put together a football team within their current means. Frankly, if we can't finish ahead of a team that had 6 players as late as Last Week then we have no-one to blame but ourselves. [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 15:23]
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:27 - Jul 7 with 3106 views | dirtyboy | We're potentially the best backed club in the league in terms of owners (short term) we need to be very mindful and respectful of how we view other teams. We should have done better last year based on budget, so let's just be a little more humble as supporters. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:46 - Jul 7 with 2979 views | OwainG1992 |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:58 - Jul 7 by GeoffSentence | Indeed we haven't. But with reference to the title of the OP, it lacks self awareness given our spending power. |
Well in replying to yourself I'm well aware of our spending potential. But I don't see us going out getting ageing ex premier league players. Hourihane/didz/Chester. Instead we seem to be going for hungry players with more of a point to prove. Perhaps the title upset a few but that is exactly what they attempted to do for years in the championship. I have no time for Derby. Am I biased in terms of Ipswich. You bet your ass I am. I know which I'd rather. [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 15:48]
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 16:02 - Jul 7 with 2881 views | Dennyx4 |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:42 - Jul 7 by ElderGrizzly | As covered earlier on a thread, they can't. Derby have to get approval for every player signed by the EFL and aren't allowed to lose money for 2 years. How that equates to trying to build a promotion challenge in L1 i'm not sure. They'll have 30k crowds, but that won't be enough. |
Presumably, the new owners can put a cash injection into the club. that would allow the spending required? It does look like their target market is ageing Championship players - On a free transfer, but wont be cheap on wages. They may also get a few pounds in for some of their youngsters leaving either through transfer fees or tribunals. Think they will be a team that could go either way, the quality they have managed to sign, if they can stay fit is certainly very good for League One. I believe they have signed the following in the last few days James Chester Conor Hourihane David McGoldrick Tom Barkhuzien Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Joe Wildsmith Also there were some players that were out of contract, still training with them including Curtis Davies & Richard Stearman. Not sure if they have been able to resign these, as will not be reported as a transfer, as Derby would have been the registered club up until the end of June. [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 16:04]
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 16:15 - Jul 7 with 2799 views | jayessess |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:46 - Jul 7 by OwainG1992 | Well in replying to yourself I'm well aware of our spending potential. But I don't see us going out getting ageing ex premier league players. Hourihane/didz/Chester. Instead we seem to be going for hungry players with more of a point to prove. Perhaps the title upset a few but that is exactly what they attempted to do for years in the championship. I have no time for Derby. Am I biased in terms of Ipswich. You bet your ass I am. I know which I'd rather. [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 15:48]
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 16:23 - Jul 7 with 2748 views | BonneNIL | I don't have an issue with a club investing to compete at all. While their last ownership was wreckless, the new team will, much like Gamechanger here, look to make an early impact to get out of this league. We didn't manage that, but it's not much different from any takeover. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 18:11 - Jul 7 with 2463 views | SitfcB |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:49 - Jul 7 by GeoffSentence | quick reminder. we have just tabled a £1m bid for a left back. |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 18:35 - Jul 7 with 2398 views | Swansea_Blue |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 14:58 - Jul 7 by GeoffSentence | Indeed we haven't. But with reference to the title of the OP, it lacks self awareness given our spending power. |
Yep. The OP's accusation about Derby has been levelled at us more than once. None of really know how much more spending power we have - next year's accounts detailing the first year of Gamechanger are going to be very interesting. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 18:46 - Jul 7 with 2353 views | tractorboy1978 | I think all that reaffirms is how little money there is kicking about in the Championship outside the parachute clubs and a couple of others. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 19:10 - Jul 7 with 2265 views | FrimleyBlue |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 16:02 - Jul 7 by Dennyx4 | Presumably, the new owners can put a cash injection into the club. that would allow the spending required? It does look like their target market is ageing Championship players - On a free transfer, but wont be cheap on wages. They may also get a few pounds in for some of their youngsters leaving either through transfer fees or tribunals. Think they will be a team that could go either way, the quality they have managed to sign, if they can stay fit is certainly very good for League One. I believe they have signed the following in the last few days James Chester Conor Hourihane David McGoldrick Tom Barkhuzien Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Joe Wildsmith Also there were some players that were out of contract, still training with them including Curtis Davies & Richard Stearman. Not sure if they have been able to resign these, as will not be reported as a transfer, as Derby would have been the registered club up until the end of June. [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 16:04]
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 00:02 - Jul 8 with 1933 views | Mach_foreignBlue | Derby 2022/23 = Ipswich Town 2011/12 They are doing the things which the worst ever Ipswich manager (at that time) Jewell used to do whilst with us. Hiring a number of 30+ players with no re-sale value. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 06:38 - Jul 8 with 1769 views | shamboy |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 00:02 - Jul 8 by Mach_foreignBlue | Derby 2022/23 = Ipswich Town 2011/12 They are doing the things which the worst ever Ipswich manager (at that time) Jewell used to do whilst with us. Hiring a number of 30+ players with no re-sale value. |
...and because I have ab thing about beautiful symmetry, I am bound to point out that was also around the time that the football geniuses running our club gave away Conor Hourihane, against the advice of many good judges. |  | |  |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 06:59 - Jul 8 with 1724 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 15:09 - Jul 7 by SamWhiteUK | Perhaps true - but the whole point of the OP is saying that Derby have outspent Huddersfield for a particular player, when they've just been "saved" and arguably should have been ejected from the league. Why everyone is trying to link it back to us and our spending, I'm not sure. |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 07:04 - Jul 8 with 1711 views | OwainG1992 |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 06:59 - Jul 8 by The_Flashing_Smile | Because people in glass houses... |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 09:27 - Jul 8 with 1521 views | BlueBlood90 | I would've happily taken Hourihane here to be honest. |  |
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Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 10:33 - Jul 8 with 1458 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
Derby attempting to be the big spending league one bully boys. on 06:38 - Jul 8 by shamboy | ...and because I have ab thing about beautiful symmetry, I am bound to point out that was also around the time that the football geniuses running our club gave away Conor Hourihane, against the advice of many good judges. |
Yes, that was genius Jewell indeed. A pure football genius. |  | |  |
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