| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide 18:48 - Aug 10 with 3260 views | gtsb1966 |
I cannot understand her stance on the energy crisis. To basically show no interest in it until she is prime minister is very worrying on what's to come. Surely meeting with Johnson and Sunak was the sensible thing to do, not that you can say anything this government does is sensible, but the people will not forget or forgive. |  | | |  |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:00 - Aug 10 with 2581 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
No. She is appealing to the appalling.
She needs a majority of the 160,000 to vote for her. Being Tories, they will vote for their own narrow self interest. Most of them are likely to be reasonably well-off. They will be happy to hear that she intends to reduce their tax burden. The poor, who will benefit least from her intended tax cuts, can go to hell in a handcart. |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:05 - Aug 10 with 2568 views | BlueBadger |
She is playing to a voting base of wealthy 87 year olds, loons, selfish c**ts and bigots. And winning. Thinking that the grassroots level Tory Party membership give a sh1t about the vulnerable in society is a losers game if you're trying to become elected Tory party leader. |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:14 - Aug 10 with 2526 views | N2_Blue |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:05 - Aug 10 by BlueBadger |
She is playing to a voting base of wealthy 87 year olds, loons, selfish c**ts and bigots. And winning. Thinking that the grassroots level Tory Party membership give a sh1t about the vulnerable in society is a losers game if you're trying to become elected Tory party leader. |
Look at the demographic of the Tory party membership. Basically all over 60, white and male middle-upper class.
It's quite possibly one of the most scandalous things about this country that 180,000 people of this demographic can almost single-handedly choose the prime minster for a country of almost 70 million people at one of the most critical times we've had under the current political system.
Absolute lunacy of this country. I've never protested in my life...but I will be there when they start this coming Autumn...it's inevitable now. [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 19:17]
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:16 - Aug 10 with 2498 views | gtsb1966 |
Once she is in though.....the people won't forget! | | | |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:55 - Aug 10 with 2385 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:14 - Aug 10 by N2_Blue |
Look at the demographic of the Tory party membership. Basically all over 60, white and male middle-upper class.
It's quite possibly one of the most scandalous things about this country that 180,000 people of this demographic can almost single-handedly choose the prime minster for a country of almost 70 million people at one of the most critical times we've had under the current political system.
Absolute lunacy of this country. I've never protested in my life...but I will be there when they start this coming Autumn...it's inevitable now. [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 19:17]
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Technically they are voting for leader of the Tory Party.
The Tory party were elected, all they are doing is voting for another leader of it.
That said, I understand what you are saying and agree in a way.
Unless Liz has some serious baggage about to be reported (like a mass murderer) it’s impossible for her to lose this.
I’m more than a bit hacked off to be honest, but then again I’d still be hacked off if Rishi won. It’s a no win situation for me.
I was thinking last night as to what I would do in an election and I was thinking Lib Dem, but they are also useless aren’t they.
What a pickle.
I remain politically homeless. |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:58 - Aug 10 with 2380 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:55 - Aug 10 by Lord_Lucan |
Technically they are voting for leader of the Tory Party.
The Tory party were elected, all they are doing is voting for another leader of it.
That said, I understand what you are saying and agree in a way.
Unless Liz has some serious baggage about to be reported (like a mass murderer) it’s impossible for her to lose this.
I’m more than a bit hacked off to be honest, but then again I’d still be hacked off if Rishi won. It’s a no win situation for me.
I was thinking last night as to what I would do in an election and I was thinking Lib Dem, but they are also useless aren’t they.
What a pickle.
I remain politically homeless. |
Tbh, even if she was a mass murderer, she'd still stand a reasonable chance of getting in.
Look how inexplicably popular Boris was for a long while even after he killed over 200,000 people between 2020 and 2021 [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 20:00]
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:15 - Aug 10 with 2307 views | BlueForYou |
Agree with you there Lucan. I'm not particularly left or right but see some merit in both. There's no common sense party available, LibDems haven't a clue what they're on about. |  | | |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:19 - Aug 10 with 2293 views | factual_blue |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:14 - Aug 10 by N2_Blue |
Look at the demographic of the Tory party membership. Basically all over 60, white and male middle-upper class.
It's quite possibly one of the most scandalous things about this country that 180,000 people of this demographic can almost single-handedly choose the prime minster for a country of almost 70 million people at one of the most critical times we've had under the current political system.
Absolute lunacy of this country. I've never protested in my life...but I will be there when they start this coming Autumn...it's inevitable now. [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 19:17]
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'Basically all over 60, white and male middle-upper class.'
You forgot to add 'and massive fans of British cheese'. |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:23 - Aug 10 with 2259 views | factual_blue |
She wants all the kudos for whatever is done next. Agreeing something now diminishes that.
Self-serving in a way only a tory can be. | |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:33 - Aug 10 with 2215 views | solomon |
She’s a conservative, she doesn’t care (unless your pretty well off, then she’s all ears)
It’s time for labour. |  | | |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:48 - Aug 10 with 2164 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:33 - Aug 10 by solomon |
She’s a conservative, she doesn’t care (unless your pretty well off, then she’s all ears)
It’s time for labour. |
That’s fine, but the problem is they are incapable.
Sorry, but that’s the way it is.
I read people crying, “Let’s get Burnham in”.
Couple of problems, the major one is that he’s not an MP, the other being he was so sh1t at being an MP he couldn’t beat Ed bloody Milliband in a leadership contest and fecked off to be a gold plated mayor with all the not important sh1t that goes with it.
What we need is a leader who can broadcast to people whilst sitting next to an open fire and explain their plan without ranting and trying to appeal to one side.
Who was the cheeky girl bloke? I think we should give him a whirl. | |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:49 - Aug 10 with 2154 views | Seablu |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:00 - Aug 10 by Tangledupin_Blue |
No. She is appealing to the appalling.
She needs a majority of the 160,000 to vote for her. Being Tories, they will vote for their own narrow self interest. Most of them are likely to be reasonably well-off. They will be happy to hear that she intends to reduce their tax burden. The poor, who will benefit least from her intended tax cuts, can go to hell in a handcart. |
The sad thing is that a fair few of those who will suffer most, were quite happy to bag a seat on that very same handcart at the last election. |  | | |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 21:01 - Aug 10 with 2103 views | Oldsmoker |
She has to win a majority vote of 160,000.
Nothing else matters.
When it's over she'll move on.
She'll deny, distract and deflect all questions regarding what she said this summer.
People will forget, as they will remember this summer as queues at customs, seriously hot weather and droughts (more on this in the next few weeks).
The Tories don't want to help vulnerable poor people because they are the ones that Tories traditionally exploit to enrich themselves. |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 21:08 - Aug 10 with 2058 views | jeera |
Probably what you're referring to but I can't find the quote I'm looking for.
But didn't she say something along the lines of not really having grasped how bad the situation is, or similar, when explaining why she hadn't said much about helping out people who will be most in need this coming winter? |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:13 - Aug 10 with 1883 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 19:55 - Aug 10 by Lord_Lucan |
Technically they are voting for leader of the Tory Party.
The Tory party were elected, all they are doing is voting for another leader of it.
That said, I understand what you are saying and agree in a way.
Unless Liz has some serious baggage about to be reported (like a mass murderer) it’s impossible for her to lose this.
I’m more than a bit hacked off to be honest, but then again I’d still be hacked off if Rishi won. It’s a no win situation for me.
I was thinking last night as to what I would do in an election and I was thinking Lib Dem, but they are also useless aren’t they.
What a pickle.
I remain politically homeless. |
I am also politically homeless. Utterly pro-EU membership, socialist approach to poverty issues, soft-right on most other issues. I tend to vote LD or Green. But, being in East Suffolk, my vote is utterly meaningless in our corrupt and outdated FPTP electoral system. |  | | |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:19 - Aug 10 with 1859 views | J2BLUE |
She has Sunak all but beat. Meeting with Bojo and him just gives him an opportunity.
People will starve by the time she acts but who cares? They wouldn't have voted Tory anyway.,
Both her and Sunak are scum. Read a laughable quote earlier that she is the one to stand up to Putin. I bet Russia are loving this. [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 23:21]
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:20 - Aug 10 with 1850 views | jeera |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:19 - Aug 10 by J2BLUE |
She has Sunak all but beat. Meeting with Bojo and him just gives him an opportunity.
People will starve by the time she acts but who cares? They wouldn't have voted Tory anyway.,
Both her and Sunak are scum. Read a laughable quote earlier that she is the one to stand up to Putin. I bet Russia are loving this. [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 23:21]
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They almost certainly lit the touch paper that led to it in the first place. | |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:24 - Aug 10 with 1837 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:20 - Aug 10 by jeera |
They almost certainly lit the touch paper that led to it in the first place. |
Boris, the Vote Leave campaign and the Tory party in general have been dancing to Putin's tune for some time now. | |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:26 - Aug 10 with 1819 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:24 - Aug 10 by BlueBadger |
Boris, the Vote Leave campaign and the Tory party in general have been dancing to Putin's tune for some time now. |
Any other leader with an iq above 40 will run rings around her. The Tories really are bankrupt in every way [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 23:27]
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:28 - Aug 10 with 1799 views | bournemouthblue |
Do Tory Party Leadership votes normally take this long or is the length cynically deliberate to try take all the criticism off the cards for a little longer
It's particularly nauseating when the very serious issue of the cost of living crisis isn't being addressed
It shows just how out of touch this party are! |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 03:47 - Aug 11 with 1685 views | BondiBlue |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:13 - Aug 10 by Freddies_Ears |
I am also politically homeless. Utterly pro-EU membership, socialist approach to poverty issues, soft-right on most other issues. I tend to vote LD or Green. But, being in East Suffolk, my vote is utterly meaningless in our corrupt and outdated FPTP electoral system. |
The preferences system here is an improvement on FPTP but i still come away from election days feeling like voting is mainly symbolic and at best a respectful gesture to those that fought to earn us the right to choose. | |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 07:06 - Aug 11 with 1577 views | bournemouthblue |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 23:13 - Aug 10 by Freddies_Ears |
I am also politically homeless. Utterly pro-EU membership, socialist approach to poverty issues, soft-right on most other issues. I tend to vote LD or Green. But, being in East Suffolk, my vote is utterly meaningless in our corrupt and outdated FPTP electoral system. |
The Greens probably stand more chance in some of these permanently Blue constituencies than Labour themselves simply because traditional Tory voters would struggle ever to hold their nose and vote Labour.
The Greens however, despite in the main being more radical are also more libertarian and do appear to appeal to the more morally conscience Tories (if there is such a thing), I suppose the middle class Tories can be more ethically minded on the environment at least and are perhaps more to be Pro-EU are siding with the Greens at times, particularly for protest votes
Whilst a vote may feel wasted, it's far worse just to accept defeat and never bother to vote, that's exactly what the Tories would want you to do.
Labour, the Lib Dems and the Greens should seriously consider standing aside to certain candidates if there is a more realistic chance of them winning
I know Labour won't be overly keen because they are a National Party and want to be representing every where, however if it helps to displace more Tories, who have now been in power for 12 years and generally been awful, it's surely worth considering? [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 7:12]
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 09:48 - Aug 11 with 1360 views | GeoffSentence |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 20:48 - Aug 10 by Lord_Lucan |
That’s fine, but the problem is they are incapable.
Sorry, but that’s the way it is.
I read people crying, “Let’s get Burnham in”.
Couple of problems, the major one is that he’s not an MP, the other being he was so sh1t at being an MP he couldn’t beat Ed bloody Milliband in a leadership contest and fecked off to be a gold plated mayor with all the not important sh1t that goes with it.
What we need is a leader who can broadcast to people whilst sitting next to an open fire and explain their plan without ranting and trying to appeal to one side.
Who was the cheeky girl bloke? I think we should give him a whirl. |
Lembit Öpik? He was kind of the Boris Johnson of the Lib Dems. Still seriously more competent than any of the current shower, but far from the most serious politician of his time. |  |
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| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 09:54 - Aug 11 with 1335 views | EdwardStone |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 07:06 - Aug 11 by bournemouthblue |
The Greens probably stand more chance in some of these permanently Blue constituencies than Labour themselves simply because traditional Tory voters would struggle ever to hold their nose and vote Labour.
The Greens however, despite in the main being more radical are also more libertarian and do appear to appeal to the more morally conscience Tories (if there is such a thing), I suppose the middle class Tories can be more ethically minded on the environment at least and are perhaps more to be Pro-EU are siding with the Greens at times, particularly for protest votes
Whilst a vote may feel wasted, it's far worse just to accept defeat and never bother to vote, that's exactly what the Tories would want you to do.
Labour, the Lib Dems and the Greens should seriously consider standing aside to certain candidates if there is a more realistic chance of them winning
I know Labour won't be overly keen because they are a National Party and want to be representing every where, however if it helps to displace more Tories, who have now been in power for 12 years and generally been awful, it's surely worth considering? [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 7:12]
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I believe that local Labour Parties are forbidden from making any electoral pact in any circumstance.
They are fully wedded to the "This Time It Will Be Different" doctrine... that they will sweep to power with a huge majority, same as 1997
They call this stategy of failure "One More Heave"
Which, coincidentally is what I experience every time I see Truss's gurning face |  | | |
| Is Liz Truss committing political suicide on 09:54 - Aug 11 with 1334 views | Pinewoodblue |
The lemmings will vote for Truss and she will lead them over the cliff at the next election. Mass suicide. |  |
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