| Morsy 09:23 - Sep 7 with 4570 views | RobTheMonk |
I genuinely don’t know how we got him to drop down to League 1. I genuinely think you could stick him into some Premier League midfields and he wouldn’t look out of place. I mean, he’ll be in our Prem midfield next season!
First month in and he’s already been recognised as one of the top performers which as a combative midfielder speaks volumes in my book.
I’ve not seen a player grab games like he did against Cardiff (although he didn’t have the best first half in that game) since probably Magilton. Second half, he was setting the standards driving forward, big tackles. Just wonderful to watch.
I think we all wish he was 5 years younger! |  | | |  |
| Morsy on 09:26 - Sep 7 with 3871 views | vilanovablue |
If he were 5 years younger and playing like this I am pretty sure he would be at a higher level. |  | | |
| Morsy on 09:27 - Sep 7 with 3851 views | Stewart27 |
There are not many more superlatives that we can throw at our skipper. The ultimate professional.
If he was 5 years younger he probably wouldn’t be playing for us! |  | | |
| Morsy on 09:27 - Sep 7 with 3846 views | Keno |
We promised he could post an TWTD as Frimmers |  |
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| Morsy on 09:27 - Sep 7 with 3851 views | itfcsuth |
Initially he didn't want to to be fair to him - the deal was good for him though - and I think he'll probably admit himself it's one of the best moves he has made in his career.
It has worked out fantastically well for both of us. Promotion, captain, adored & now back in an Egypt squad.
Beating heart of this side. |  | | |
| Morsy on 09:34 - Sep 7 with 3812 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
As good as he's been for Town, he's too slow for the top flight, same with Mass and Evans. They would really struggle. Our future is Humphries, he's got to be our focus to build around in the middle. |  | | |
| Morsy on 09:41 - Sep 7 with 3787 views | Churchman |
| Morsy on 09:34 - Sep 7 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
As good as he's been for Town, he's too slow for the top flight, same with Mass and Evans. They would really struggle. Our future is Humphries, he's got to be our focus to build around in the middle. |
Not sure about that. No, he doesn’t have much pace but he has that priceless ability to not give the ball away (rarely anyway). His awareness of who is around him is great too. The other thing he has is presence. Few players have it and I can’t really define it, but he’s got it in spades.
Had he been a little younger I could see him doing quite well in the PL with the right club (us!). |  | | |
| Morsy on 09:52 - Sep 7 with 3739 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Morsy on 09:41 - Sep 7 by Churchman |
Not sure about that. No, he doesn’t have much pace but he has that priceless ability to not give the ball away (rarely anyway). His awareness of who is around him is great too. The other thing he has is presence. Few players have it and I can’t really define it, but he’s got it in spades.
Had he been a little younger I could see him doing quite well in the PL with the right club (us!). |
I would expect he'd struggle in the modern Premier League, well to be fair, as much as the likes of say Burnley level players do, the other issue is how soft the referees are at that level, he's been singled out and sent off for nothing in that league. Just look at all the crying from Leeds about he and Mass (ha, Leeds complaining about being tackled...) | | | |
| Morsy on 09:55 - Sep 7 with 3726 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Morsy on 09:52 - Sep 7 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
I would expect he'd struggle in the modern Premier League, well to be fair, as much as the likes of say Burnley level players do, the other issue is how soft the referees are at that level, he's been singled out and sent off for nothing in that league. Just look at all the crying from Leeds about he and Mass (ha, Leeds complaining about being tackled...) |
He probably lacks a little pace and speed of thought in the Premier League, but he's perfect at this level and was embarrassingly good at the one below. I think if you asked the central midfielders of L1 who their toughest opponent was you would hear Morsy's name a fair few times.
He's certainly tough in the tackle, very strong physically and walks a tightrope at times, but generally he's on the right side of hard but fair. Clarke's tackle against Cardiff on the Cobbold touchline was probably worse than any of Morsy's this season. |  | | |
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| Morsy on 10:08 - Sep 7 with 3677 views | SheffordBlue |
| Morsy on 09:55 - Sep 7 by _clive_baker_ |
He probably lacks a little pace and speed of thought in the Premier League, but he's perfect at this level and was embarrassingly good at the one below. I think if you asked the central midfielders of L1 who their toughest opponent was you would hear Morsy's name a fair few times.
He's certainly tough in the tackle, very strong physically and walks a tightrope at times, but generally he's on the right side of hard but fair. Clarke's tackle against Cardiff on the Cobbold touchline was probably worse than any of Morsy's this season. |
I think the fact that the other players in League One voted him into the PFA team of the season supports your view here. | |
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| Morsy on 11:39 - Sep 7 with 3484 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy on 09:27 - Sep 7 by itfcsuth |
Initially he didn't want to to be fair to him - the deal was good for him though - and I think he'll probably admit himself it's one of the best moves he has made in his career.
It has worked out fantastically well for both of us. Promotion, captain, adored & now back in an Egypt squad.
Beating heart of this side. |
He's an example really to many players who turn their noses up at dropping to a lower league, some go that way and you never see them again, but he's shown it can still work the other way. |  |
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| Morsy on 12:17 - Sep 7 with 3403 views | Lion |
He came here for Paul Cook and if you remember he was very, very upset when Paul was let go and probably didn't even want to be here anymore. But you are right, he is an excellent player and an excellent captain. I think undoubtedly he is the best midfielder we have had since Matt Holland who had an excellent engine but was a little too nice for me, always concerned me he didn't get booked enough for a central midfielder for my liking. Sam has got that nasty edge that you need and i thought it was ever so impressive when he went through that run of ( 5? ) games last season where he couldn't be booked without incurring a ban without seemingly diluting his game. I wish he was younger because I'd love to build a side around him for the next ten years but if he was younger, surely we would struggle to hold on to him. I love Conor but Sam was player of the year last year for me and do you know what? I think he is playing even better this year. Fuc@ing love him. A true warrior and a leader of men. | |
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| Morsy on 12:41 - Sep 7 with 3300 views | itfcjoe |
We paid him a boat load of cash and his current club wanted to shift his wage.
I'll link it below - but a really interesting article in why the 'number 6' role is so valuable and expensive now and the 3 biggest transfers in recent time to PL are Declan Rice, Moises Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez
It talks about how they play - being able to secure the ball, to take it under a heavy press, to retain it nearly always, to win the ball back etc and I'd love to see how 'elite' Morsy was in L1, and how he is doing in the Champ by the same metrics they used.
I've no doubt he was elite in L1 as Rice and Caicedo were in the PL though with regards to impact
https://theathletic.com/4787143/2023/08/20/caicedo-rice-lavia-transfer-fees/ |  |
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| Morsy on 13:14 - Sep 7 with 3176 views | Menton |
If he was two footed, he’d have been a Prem player I suspect. He’s so one-footed but amazingly it doesn’t cause him any problems. His habit of drawing 1-2 players in whilst driving with the ball is so valuable to us. |  |
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| Morsy on 13:16 - Sep 7 with 3136 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Money - and Town’s plan at the time as to recreate Wigan. | |
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| Morsy on 17:47 - Sep 7 with 2874 views | Eireannach_gorm |
I would forgive Paul Cook for everything for the sole act of persuading Morsy to come to the club. |  | | |
| Morsy on 19:32 - Sep 7 with 2780 views | SitfcB |
| Morsy on 17:47 - Sep 7 by Eireannach_gorm |
I would forgive Paul Cook for everything for the sole act of persuading Morsy to come to the club. |
And Chaplin. |  |
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| Morsy on 21:35 - Sep 7 with 2620 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy on 19:32 - Sep 7 by SitfcB |
And Chaplin. |
It's funny really.
Brings in chappers. Morsy etc
Nearly bin off wolfy for nsiala | |
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| Morsy on 01:47 - Sep 8 with 2479 views | Sharkey |
| Morsy on 12:17 - Sep 7 by Lion |
He came here for Paul Cook and if you remember he was very, very upset when Paul was let go and probably didn't even want to be here anymore. But you are right, he is an excellent player and an excellent captain. I think undoubtedly he is the best midfielder we have had since Matt Holland who had an excellent engine but was a little too nice for me, always concerned me he didn't get booked enough for a central midfielder for my liking. Sam has got that nasty edge that you need and i thought it was ever so impressive when he went through that run of ( 5? ) games last season where he couldn't be booked without incurring a ban without seemingly diluting his game. I wish he was younger because I'd love to build a side around him for the next ten years but if he was younger, surely we would struggle to hold on to him. I love Conor but Sam was player of the year last year for me and do you know what? I think he is playing even better this year. Fuc@ing love him. A true warrior and a leader of men. |
"I think undoubtedly he is the best midfielder we have had since Matt Holland "
Undoubtedly? That seems harsh on Magilton. |  | | |
| Morsy on 06:23 - Sep 8 with 2392 views | PioneerBlue |
| Morsy on 01:47 - Sep 8 by Sharkey |
"I think undoubtedly he is the best midfielder we have had since Matt Holland "
Undoubtedly? That seems harsh on Magilton. |
It’s difficult for clubs to have genuine like for like player pipelines and in some cases it is an opportunity to do something different when they leave but in this case I hope we have a player pipeline with options! You don’t only lose the player on the pitch and all the leadership that goes with it here but everything off it too.
GC20
MOL
MA
Super KMcK
Super SM
That is leadership right there. | |
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| Morsy on 08:24 - Sep 8 with 2285 views | BlueBoots |
| Morsy on 12:41 - Sep 7 by itfcjoe |
We paid him a boat load of cash and his current club wanted to shift his wage.
I'll link it below - but a really interesting article in why the 'number 6' role is so valuable and expensive now and the 3 biggest transfers in recent time to PL are Declan Rice, Moises Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez
It talks about how they play - being able to secure the ball, to take it under a heavy press, to retain it nearly always, to win the ball back etc and I'd love to see how 'elite' Morsy was in L1, and how he is doing in the Champ by the same metrics they used.
I've no doubt he was elite in L1 as Rice and Caicedo were in the PL though with regards to impact
https://theathletic.com/4787143/2023/08/20/caicedo-rice-lavia-transfer-fees/ |
It's always been such an important role...don't know why we missed out on this transfer (ME's penny-pinching, RK's personality or just London v Ipswich), but QPR won the league when they signed Derry ahead of us.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/transfer-news-crystal-palace-star-3 |  |
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| Morsy on 08:32 - Sep 8 with 2263 views | BlueBoots |
| Morsy on 09:41 - Sep 7 by Churchman |
Not sure about that. No, he doesn’t have much pace but he has that priceless ability to not give the ball away (rarely anyway). His awareness of who is around him is great too. The other thing he has is presence. Few players have it and I can’t really define it, but he’s got it in spades.
Had he been a little younger I could see him doing quite well in the PL with the right club (us!). |
I don't think Morsy is too short on pace once he gets going driving with the ball; as he's a big fella it's just initial acceleration, but he easily compensates for that by being so strong on the ball.
I think the most important thing about Morsy is that his standards and will to win rubs off on the players around him (Magilton used to have that too - remember him coming off the pitch after a game we won with a face like thunder because despite winning we didn't play particualrly well!) I can imagine our players being desperate to be on his team even when we play small-sided games in training! | |
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| Morsy on 09:39 - Sep 8 with 2184 views | Vegtablue |
| Morsy on 01:47 - Sep 8 by Sharkey |
"I think undoubtedly he is the best midfielder we have had since Matt Holland "
Undoubtedly? That seems harsh on Magilton. |
Very harsh on our Jim, who made at least 200 appearances in the top flight. I'm not old enough to fairly compare the two but I remember him being a giant for us. | | | |
| Morsy on 09:56 - Sep 8 with 2129 views | textbackup |
This isn’t a dig, but for so many years we were told by many on here how great Skuse was, and how important his sideways passing was to the team. And how we’d never get a player that could preform more than one role to a high standard.
We now have a bloke in the same position that has multiple strings to his bow.
-Drives team on
-Breaks up play
-Assists
-Scores |  |
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| Morsy on 13:43 - Sep 8 with 2002 views | Churchman |
| Morsy on 09:56 - Sep 8 by textbackup |
This isn’t a dig, but for so many years we were told by many on here how great Skuse was, and how important his sideways passing was to the team. And how we’d never get a player that could preform more than one role to a high standard.
We now have a bloke in the same position that has multiple strings to his bow.
-Drives team on
-Breaks up play
-Assists
-Scores |
I suspect this will go down like a lead balloon with some, but in my opinion Morsy is a much better player than Skuse was.
As a point of interest and with the help of a time turner, if the forum had a straight choice between the two, who would you choose? | | | |
| Morsy on 14:27 - Sep 8 with 1950 views | textbackup |
| Morsy on 13:43 - Sep 8 by Churchman |
I suspect this will go down like a lead balloon with some, but in my opinion Morsy is a much better player than Skuse was.
As a point of interest and with the help of a time turner, if the forum had a straight choice between the two, who would you choose? |
I get the argument that Skuse had 10/11 seasons in the championship, but was he ever more than a 6.5/10 on a regular basis? I can’t say I saw it.
Morsy is better than him in ever aspect IMO. | |
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