| McKenna starting to get noticed 13:01 - Sep 20 with 6649 views | SitfcB |
Too early for another new deal? |  |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:07 - Sep 20 with 5040 views | NthQldITFC |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:12 - Sep 20 with 4968 views | MattinLondon |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:07 - Sep 20 by NthQldITFC |
Interesting edit! |
They didn’t really say a lot - just had the feel of a group of three people who tend to only watch the PL and don’t know a lot about the other 72 clubs. Young, doing well, and that’s it. |  | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:15 - Sep 20 with 4910 views | BudapestByBlimp |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:07 - Sep 20 by NthQldITFC |
Interesting edit! |
They must have just finished discussing their favourite apples. |  | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:31 - Sep 20 with 4777 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Wasn't really in-depth analysis was it? "Got them flying at the top of the league." |  |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:40 - Sep 20 with 4691 views | Asa |
As much as I will probably cry for a fortnight if McKenna leaves, I would have complete and utter faith in us identifying the next brilliant manager to continue to take us forward.
Everything behind the scenes seems that good. I think it's inevitable if we carry on being this impressive that Kieran will be offered one of the few domestic jobs you could see him leaving us for.
It's getting to the stage where, if he's any more impressive, he will be potentially on Man Utd's radar. He's already achieved more than Solskjaer had before he was given that job and despite all the turmoil there, as a United fan and someone they rated so highly, surely that would be one where we'd have no chance of keeping him.
As much as McKenna is smart enough to see all the issues that failing there could do to set his career back slightly, I also think he knows he's that good that he feels he could actually turn them around as well. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:44]
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:44 - Sep 20 with 4608 views | _clive_baker_ |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:12 - Sep 20 by MattinLondon |
They didn’t really say a lot - just had the feel of a group of three people who tend to only watch the PL and don’t know a lot about the other 72 clubs. Young, doing well, and that’s it. |
Don't have a clue about the Championship do they? Youth coach at Man United somewhat understates his involvement there. He was manager of their U18's and one of Jose, Ole and Ralf's assistant managers. |  | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:51 - Sep 20 with 4516 views | _clive_baker_ |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:40 - Sep 20 by Asa |
As much as I will probably cry for a fortnight if McKenna leaves, I would have complete and utter faith in us identifying the next brilliant manager to continue to take us forward.
Everything behind the scenes seems that good. I think it's inevitable if we carry on being this impressive that Kieran will be offered one of the few domestic jobs you could see him leaving us for.
It's getting to the stage where, if he's any more impressive, he will be potentially on Man Utd's radar. He's already achieved more than Solskjaer had before he was given that job and despite all the turmoil there, as a United fan and someone they rated so highly, surely that would be one where we'd have no chance of keeping him.
As much as McKenna is smart enough to see all the issues that failing there could do to set his career back slightly, I also think he knows he's that good that he feels he could actually turn them around as well. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:44]
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It's not that I don't trust Ashton to find a replacement, but I honestly just don't think KM's grow on trees. There's plenty of good managers out there but I truly think he's just at a different level. The buy in he's managed to achieve is ridiculous, you just feel like the players hang on his every word.
It would be such a blow to us if he left, but I think we're a bit insulated in that the size of club that would be worth jumping for probably wont be bold enough to come in for him. There's a very, very small number of clubs we're realistically exposed to when you visualize the intersection of a venn diagram of 'big enough to be tempted by' and 'bold / small enough to be looking to recruit from the Championship'.
Palace, West Ham, Wolves, Everton maybe meet that definition, but while we're doing well he'll know he's got a chance here to do something remarkable and completely career defining. | | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:52 - Sep 20 with 4507 views | Vegtablue |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:40 - Sep 20 by Asa |
As much as I will probably cry for a fortnight if McKenna leaves, I would have complete and utter faith in us identifying the next brilliant manager to continue to take us forward.
Everything behind the scenes seems that good. I think it's inevitable if we carry on being this impressive that Kieran will be offered one of the few domestic jobs you could see him leaving us for.
It's getting to the stage where, if he's any more impressive, he will be potentially on Man Utd's radar. He's already achieved more than Solskjaer had before he was given that job and despite all the turmoil there, as a United fan and someone they rated so highly, surely that would be one where we'd have no chance of keeping him.
As much as McKenna is smart enough to see all the issues that failing there could do to set his career back slightly, I also think he knows he's that good that he feels he could actually turn them around as well. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:44]
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Not sure I would 😅 no disrespect to Ashton and co., just that it's very difficult to unearth managers of McKenna's ilk and I'm not aware he/they found such gems in his/their previous posts. | | | |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:54 - Sep 20 with 4454 views | WestSussexBlue |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:40 - Sep 20 by Asa |
As much as I will probably cry for a fortnight if McKenna leaves, I would have complete and utter faith in us identifying the next brilliant manager to continue to take us forward.
Everything behind the scenes seems that good. I think it's inevitable if we carry on being this impressive that Kieran will be offered one of the few domestic jobs you could see him leaving us for.
It's getting to the stage where, if he's any more impressive, he will be potentially on Man Utd's radar. He's already achieved more than Solskjaer had before he was given that job and despite all the turmoil there, as a United fan and someone they rated so highly, surely that would be one where we'd have no chance of keeping him.
As much as McKenna is smart enough to see all the issues that failing there could do to set his career back slightly, I also think he knows he's that good that he feels he could actually turn them around as well. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:44]
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The first paragraph is spot on, such is the infrastructure now that I’m almost sure Ashton and co are keeping an eye on 2 or 3 potential successors already. That’s not too say KM is leaving anytime soon, the way we plan and adapt constantly for the future fills me with confidence that when the time comes we’ll already be in a position to make the transition. | | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:58 - Sep 20 with 4401 views | Asa |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:52 - Sep 20 by Vegtablue |
Not sure I would 😅 no disrespect to Ashton and co., just that it's very difficult to unearth managers of McKenna's ilk and I'm not aware he/they found such gems in his/their previous posts. |
I don't for one second think we'd find someone as good as McKenna. He's an absolute genius.
But I can see us attracting another very good manager that we'd look at and decide is probably one of the top managers in the Championship. | | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:58 - Sep 20 with 4397 views | DarkBrandon |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:51 - Sep 20 by _clive_baker_ |
It's not that I don't trust Ashton to find a replacement, but I honestly just don't think KM's grow on trees. There's plenty of good managers out there but I truly think he's just at a different level. The buy in he's managed to achieve is ridiculous, you just feel like the players hang on his every word.
It would be such a blow to us if he left, but I think we're a bit insulated in that the size of club that would be worth jumping for probably wont be bold enough to come in for him. There's a very, very small number of clubs we're realistically exposed to when you visualize the intersection of a venn diagram of 'big enough to be tempted by' and 'bold / small enough to be looking to recruit from the Championship'.
Palace, West Ham, Wolves, Everton maybe meet that definition, but while we're doing well he'll know he's got a chance here to do something remarkable and completely career defining. |
There are a couple of paradoxes here.
Our outstanding start to the season has increased his profile and attractiveness to PL sides, but also meant he’s more likely to stay till the end of the season to see if he can get back-to-back promotions.
If we’d failed to go up last season, he could have been a target for one of the larger clubs in the Championship. And there are a lot of large clubs here.
The risky time will be at the end of this season. Even if we go up.
Edit: but the point that there just aren’t a lot of KMs out there is a very valid one [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:59]
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:01 - Sep 20 with 4341 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:54 - Sep 20 by WestSussexBlue |
The first paragraph is spot on, such is the infrastructure now that I’m almost sure Ashton and co are keeping an eye on 2 or 3 potential successors already. That’s not too say KM is leaving anytime soon, the way we plan and adapt constantly for the future fills me with confidence that when the time comes we’ll already be in a position to make the transition. |
That may also include some already within the club and doing their badges. | |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:04 - Sep 20 with 4287 views | gosblue |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:12 - Sep 20 by MattinLondon |
They didn’t really say a lot - just had the feel of a group of three people who tend to only watch the PL and don’t know a lot about the other 72 clubs. Young, doing well, and that’s it. |
What they said was bllx. It’s been five years since he was youth team coach at United. Good research. | | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:04 - Sep 20 with 4278 views | tractorboy1978 |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:51 - Sep 20 by _clive_baker_ |
It's not that I don't trust Ashton to find a replacement, but I honestly just don't think KM's grow on trees. There's plenty of good managers out there but I truly think he's just at a different level. The buy in he's managed to achieve is ridiculous, you just feel like the players hang on his every word.
It would be such a blow to us if he left, but I think we're a bit insulated in that the size of club that would be worth jumping for probably wont be bold enough to come in for him. There's a very, very small number of clubs we're realistically exposed to when you visualize the intersection of a venn diagram of 'big enough to be tempted by' and 'bold / small enough to be looking to recruit from the Championship'.
Palace, West Ham, Wolves, Everton maybe meet that definition, but while we're doing well he'll know he's got a chance here to do something remarkable and completely career defining. |
The Premier League is such a pull that virtually all of the clubs have access to managers that have have proven themselves at the highest level, including the Champions League/Europa League. Brighton appointed De Zerbi, Villa got Emery, Wolves got Lopetegui, Bournemouth got Iraola. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 14:05]
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:05 - Sep 20 with 4273 views | blueasfook |
I'd like to think he'd stick with us for at least another season or two. Project Ipswich is going very well for him, so would be a risk to up sticks and go somewhere else and start all over again. I certainly wouldn't leave a job I was enjoying and was going well for me - unless it was something MUCH better, and I don't think he's made enough of a name for himself quite yet to be drawing interest from premiership clubs. |  |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:08 - Sep 20 with 4218 views | blueasfook |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:52 - Sep 20 by Vegtablue |
Not sure I would 😅 no disrespect to Ashton and co., just that it's very difficult to unearth managers of McKenna's ilk and I'm not aware he/they found such gems in his/their previous posts. |
This. It took us a long time to find a successful manager again since Burley - many duds were employed since, til we got KM. | |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:09 - Sep 20 with 4208 views | _clive_baker_ |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:58 - Sep 20 by DarkBrandon |
There are a couple of paradoxes here.
Our outstanding start to the season has increased his profile and attractiveness to PL sides, but also meant he’s more likely to stay till the end of the season to see if he can get back-to-back promotions.
If we’d failed to go up last season, he could have been a target for one of the larger clubs in the Championship. And there are a lot of large clubs here.
The risky time will be at the end of this season. Even if we go up.
Edit: but the point that there just aren’t a lot of KMs out there is a very valid one [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:59]
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Agree with that. Better he does here the more attractive he is, but equally the more he has to give up by walking away. Hodgson isn't getting any younger, London club, well established in the Premier League and big emphasis on the academy. I can see that being quite an attractive stepping stone if he thinks we've plateaued at some stage. Also Everton, big new stadium, established Premier League team. That's a nice opportunity to go in there with very little to follow for years, to take them to the top half is achievable and would be deemed successful. | | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:10 - Sep 20 with 4197 views | berkstractorboy |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:40 - Sep 20 by Asa |
As much as I will probably cry for a fortnight if McKenna leaves, I would have complete and utter faith in us identifying the next brilliant manager to continue to take us forward.
Everything behind the scenes seems that good. I think it's inevitable if we carry on being this impressive that Kieran will be offered one of the few domestic jobs you could see him leaving us for.
It's getting to the stage where, if he's any more impressive, he will be potentially on Man Utd's radar. He's already achieved more than Solskjaer had before he was given that job and despite all the turmoil there, as a United fan and someone they rated so highly, surely that would be one where we'd have no chance of keeping him.
As much as McKenna is smart enough to see all the issues that failing there could do to set his career back slightly, I also think he knows he's that good that he feels he could actually turn them around as well. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:44]
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I think the issue is if KM goes it's not just the manager that goes but all the surrounding coaches and possibly other support staff who get taken too. It's the collective of them that is so good and so hard to replace.
Look at Cook, he surrounded himself with poor coaches and the rest is history. Shows just how much impact Richardson had at Wigan as Cook himself. | | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:34 - Sep 20 with 4008 views | NthQldITFC |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:15 - Sep 20 by BudapestByBlimp |
They must have just finished discussing their favourite apples. |
I thought he was just addressing his question to his interlocutors. Bit harsh on Richards. | |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:41 - Sep 20 with 3932 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:10 - Sep 20 by berkstractorboy |
I think the issue is if KM goes it's not just the manager that goes but all the surrounding coaches and possibly other support staff who get taken too. It's the collective of them that is so good and so hard to replace.
Look at Cook, he surrounded himself with poor coaches and the rest is history. Shows just how much impact Richardson had at Wigan as Cook himself. |
I wondered what Leam Richardson's up to now. Sacked by Wigan and not had a job for almost a year according to wiki...
"On 24 April 2022, Richardson was named the 2021–22 EFL League One Manager of the Season at the league's annual award ceremony.[24] Later that month Richardson led Wigan to promotion into the Championship as they finished the season as League One champions.[25]
On 10 November 2022, Richardson was sacked as Wigan manager after a run of six losses in seven matches that saw the club fall into the Championship relegation zone.[26] The sacking came just sixteen days after Richardson had signed a new three-year contract with the club.[27]" | |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:44 - Sep 20 with 3890 views | RobTheMonk |
I'd hope he would see this season out at the very least. If we get promoted then he's going nowhere. |  | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:47 - Sep 20 with 3835 views | GeoffSentence |
They've all got it wrong Ryan Lowe is the one to watch. Ryan Lowe, he's the man, great manager, worthy of a move to the premier league.
Then Schumaker, doing a fantastic job with limited resources, really good manager, excellent.
Not McKenna though, he's had it easy and is not quite ready.
Ryan Lowe all the way.
Him or Schumaker.
Or maybe Liam Rosenior.
But not McKenna, he's not that good. |  |
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| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:49 - Sep 20 with 3819 views | PhilTWTD |
Had a national newspaper journalist friend of mine call me up to talk about him this morning. |  | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:50 - Sep 20 with 3797 views | HighgateBlue |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 13:40 - Sep 20 by Asa |
As much as I will probably cry for a fortnight if McKenna leaves, I would have complete and utter faith in us identifying the next brilliant manager to continue to take us forward.
Everything behind the scenes seems that good. I think it's inevitable if we carry on being this impressive that Kieran will be offered one of the few domestic jobs you could see him leaving us for.
It's getting to the stage where, if he's any more impressive, he will be potentially on Man Utd's radar. He's already achieved more than Solskjaer had before he was given that job and despite all the turmoil there, as a United fan and someone they rated so highly, surely that would be one where we'd have no chance of keeping him.
As much as McKenna is smart enough to see all the issues that failing there could do to set his career back slightly, I also think he knows he's that good that he feels he could actually turn them around as well. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 13:44]
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I'm hoping that Solskjaer's aura and profile amongst the fans because of his part in the Champions League win, and his long successful playing career there, put him in a different category (after all, Lampard, Gerrard and Keane all got managerial jobs that their coaching CVs alone did not justify).
I would very much doubt that Man U would have the ballz to appoint KMac, even once he's won promotion to the PL. I think he'd have to have Brighton or Brentford style success with us first. And I hope he does.
Having said that, despite his relative inexperience I think he could excel in any job in world football. He's taken the step up in division at a canter, and of course he's worked in two of the largest PL clubs before, just not in the daddy chair. |  | | |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:51 - Sep 20 with 3784 views | berkstractorboy |
| McKenna starting to get noticed on 14:41 - Sep 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I wondered what Leam Richardson's up to now. Sacked by Wigan and not had a job for almost a year according to wiki...
"On 24 April 2022, Richardson was named the 2021–22 EFL League One Manager of the Season at the league's annual award ceremony.[24] Later that month Richardson led Wigan to promotion into the Championship as they finished the season as League One champions.[25]
On 10 November 2022, Richardson was sacked as Wigan manager after a run of six losses in seven matches that saw the club fall into the Championship relegation zone.[26] The sacking came just sixteen days after Richardson had signed a new three-year contract with the club.[27]" |
Don't think we ever joined Cook at the Chesterfield project. Seems to have gone off the radar which maybe by choice but would have thought a lower league side would take a punt on him. | | | |
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