That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:41 - Aug 30 with 4821 views | ReusersTown | Jumping on someone's head isn't assault. Jesus Christ what goes on in your head? |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 with 4786 views | SitfcB |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:41 - Aug 30 by ReusersTown | Jumping on someone's head isn't assault. Jesus Christ what goes on in your head? |
I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:43 - Aug 30 with 4760 views | Trequartista | He beat two people up as well? |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:44 - Aug 30 with 4732 views | ReusersTown |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |
Well you are very naive then is all I can say. He rolled himself off the end into a populated area. The cobbold incline isn't a black ski run. |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:48 - Aug 30 with 4622 views | Eireannach_gorm |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |
He totally did. Nice gentle barrel roll onto someones head. |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:48 - Aug 30 with 4625 views | SitfcB |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:44 - Aug 30 by ReusersTown | Well you are very naive then is all I can say. He rolled himself off the end into a populated area. The cobbold incline isn't a black ski run. |
Think he got to the point of no return, can’t see why someone would intentionally do that, but how can it be proved it was deliberate? |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:48 - Aug 30 with 4603 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |
It’s clear he did sitters. How much of a rake do you think that roof has? |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:49 - Aug 30 with 4586 views | Kropotkin123 |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |
I'm confused, why put "fell", if you don't think he intended it. Looked deliberate to me, for what it's worth. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:50 - Aug 30 with 4539 views | ITFC_Forever | Deliberately rolled down and off the roof. He may not have known there were people immediately below - but he absolutely did it deliberately. [Post edited 30 Aug 2024 14:58]
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:51 - Aug 30 with 4513 views | Zx1988 |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:48 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | Think he got to the point of no return, can’t see why someone would intentionally do that, but how can it be proved it was deliberate? |
I think it comes down to the fact that the offence can be committed recklessly as well as deliberately. If the 'man on the Clapham Omnibus' could reasonably foresee that his actions may result in injury to others, then there may be a reasonable prospect of a successful prosecution based on recklessness. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:55 - Aug 30 with 4409 views | SitfcB |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:49 - Aug 30 by Kropotkin123 | I'm confused, why put "fell", if you don't think he intended it. Looked deliberate to me, for what it's worth. |
Well that’s exactly why I put ‘fell’ with ‘ ‘ |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:57 - Aug 30 with 4336 views | Sharkey |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:49 - Aug 30 by Kropotkin123 | I'm confused, why put "fell", if you don't think he intended it. Looked deliberate to me, for what it's worth. |
Surely 'fall' is exactly the right word if he didn't intend it? |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:00 - Aug 30 with 4248 views | southnorfolkblue |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:48 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | Think he got to the point of no return, can’t see why someone would intentionally do that, but how can it be proved it was deliberate? |
Don’t have to prove it was deliberate. Reckless is sufficient. Bloke could have seriously injured someone. Deserves everything he’s got coming to him |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:03 - Aug 30 with 4189 views | runaround | From watching it live at the time he definitely did it intentionally. It was just luck no-one was seriously injured. Quite right that he should be charged and really not sure why it’s taken so long to reach that conclusion |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:03 - Aug 30 with 4173 views | Zx1988 |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:00 - Aug 30 by southnorfolkblue | Don’t have to prove it was deliberate. Reckless is sufficient. Bloke could have seriously injured someone. Deserves everything he’s got coming to him |
From the CPS charging manual: Battery / common assault Section 39 Criminal Justice Act 1988 (CJA 1988) Common assault is an act by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence. Battery is committed by the intentional or reckless application of unlawful force to another person. These are two separate offences, placed on a statutory footing by section 39 CJA 1988. Where battery is selected it should be charged as “assault by beating”: DPP v Taylor and Little [1992] Q.B. 645. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:05 - Aug 30 with 4111 views | Zx1988 |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:03 - Aug 30 by runaround | From watching it live at the time he definitely did it intentionally. It was just luck no-one was seriously injured. Quite right that he should be charged and really not sure why it’s taken so long to reach that conclusion |
Looking at the details of the article, it would seem to me that the chap was charged previously and it's now only coming to court. There is a statutory time limit that proceedings must be commenced within six months of the offence having been committed (s.127 Magistrates Court Act 1987), so he would have had to have been charged by the end of July at the latest. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:05 - Aug 30 with 4077 views | Kropotkin123 |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:57 - Aug 30 by Sharkey | Surely 'fall' is exactly the right word if he didn't intend it? |
The quotes to me meant ostensibly. If it was without the quotes, then I would think sitters simply meant fell. The answer sitters gave makes if clear he was simply quoting. [Post edited 30 Aug 2024 15:06]
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:07 - Aug 30 with 4017 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |
It would be really difficult to roll on such a slight incline. Seems like assault is about right otherwise criminally reckless behaviour. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:31 - Aug 30 with 3709 views | RadioOrwell |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 14:42 - Aug 30 by SitfcB | I really don’t think he intended to fall down to the lower tier. |
Video of it makes it look like he did. |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:36 - Aug 30 with 3637 views | Hciwspi | Not harsh at all. A 60 year old “grown” man deliberately rolled down the roof of the executive boxes and landed on a poor unsuspecting ITFC supporter and then punched one or two others? Deserves everything he gets! |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:41 - Aug 30 with 3575 views | blueasfook | The idiot deserves all he gets. In the entire history of the Cobbold stand nobody has ever fallen down that sloped roof until Maidstone moron managed it. Just a shame he injured others and not just himself. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:48 - Aug 30 with 3420 views | mutters | Not at all, he endangered other people by acting like a tw@t. Ended up landing on a woman who could have been seriously hurt plus it also sounds like he had a scuffle as well. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 16:15 - Aug 30 with 3207 views | bsw72 |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:41 - Aug 30 by blueasfook | The idiot deserves all he gets. In the entire history of the Cobbold stand nobody has ever fallen down that sloped roof until Maidstone moron managed it. Just a shame he injured others and not just himself. |
No, but I remember that idiot Pompey fan - "John Portsmouth Football Club Westwood" almost did when walking on the roof in the past. Stewards dragged him back into the stand. |  | |  |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 16:27 - Aug 30 with 3057 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 15:31 - Aug 30 by RadioOrwell | Video of it makes it look like he did. |
Suspect the CCTV from the club, (which we’ve not seen) makes it look even more deliberate. |  |
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That Maidstone fan that ‘fell’ down to the lower tier is due in court… on 16:29 - Aug 30 with 3043 views | PhilTWTD | Police said at the time they were taking no action, which surprised me as it was so obviously done on purpose. |  | |  |
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