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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? 23:50 - Oct 19 with 7627 viewsFrimleyBlue

Just one for open discussion.

On one hand you've got a young manager who's done an absolutely brilliant job with our club. 2 promotions. Winning many many games. Some excellent and quite frankly scarily good games in the process.
Given us this prem season to enjoy and has every fans faith he will keep us up. Including mine.

But... how much does he care now?
We go down. He'll be off. Does it matter to him
For all this Ashton hugging rubbish, this is a man who had all but signed for Palace. All but joined Brighton.

So for people questioning some player efforts earlier. Lack of drive. Determination etc... perhaps the KM potentially leaving had an effect more than anyone's discussed before. After all, those who got him the job offers, he's replaced with younger up coming players without a 2nd thought. He's mentioned in the main players have taken it well.

He talks his usual game. As brilliant as all previous interview. Calm collective etc. But with no wins. Should we see more passion? Is that wrong to expect some?

Just genuine open question for a discussion nothing behind this it's just a chat I've had tonight off site that I thought I'd ask on site. So I know I'll get hit with abuse but I thought its actually a worthwhile chat.

How much does KM care about how we actually do in this league when Kompany rocked into the job he's got whilst taking Burnley down. If he cares Where's the passion or the efforts in changing things rather than sticking to something that's not worked yet.

Anyways over to you all. Well aware this is not gonna be a popular post. But kinda writing it with a neutral head on rather than a town fan one if that makes sense.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:50 - Oct 19 with 5029 viewsDubtractor

FFS.

Go to bed.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:53 - Oct 19 with 4988 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

You've posted on here 10 (TEN!) times today, and your posts get progressively more ridiculous.

"How much does KM care" that is not even worth answering. Utterly ludicrous, nonsensical post.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:53 - Oct 19 with 4973 viewswaveneyblue

To answer your question at the end.

No, it doesn't make sense.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:54 - Oct 19 with 4960 viewsmrfixit426

I try to avoid your nonsense as much as I possibly can, but since you infect almost every thread on this site it's extremely difficult. In a plethora of bad takes, this is one of the worst so far. Just go away. I've never come across such a "know it all" who knows absolutely nothing about football.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:58 - Oct 19 with 4866 viewsLittleBoyBlue1

There's every chance he's out of his depth.

I don't think he is and I hope not. But Dyche has been around the block and knew how to get the better of us today
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:59 - Oct 19 with 4858 viewsFrimleyBlue

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:53 - Oct 19 by TRUE_BLUE123

You've posted on here 10 (TEN!) times today, and your posts get progressively more ridiculous.

"How much does KM care" that is not even worth answering. Utterly ludicrous, nonsensical post.
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Erm it's alot more than 10 thanks. Been a busy one.

Anyways. Feel free to discuss it or not. Your call.

I'm off to bed. Night.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 00:22 - Oct 20 with 4627 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

Man, you got better for a while. You really did.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 00:26 - Oct 20 with 4596 viewsbadadski

He cares but throwing his toys out of the pram isn’t going to achieve anything and with the injuries already weakening our fragile defence, it’s far from ideal. I
I still think he has issues with finding and getting a starting 11, he is persisting with some things that are not working but will change it eventually however most of our losses are coming from individual errors and not being clinical when given the opportunity where there is nothing McKenna can do about it . I’m just hoping one game it will click and we will play like we know we can however I still feel that some of the players he has bought in are no better than what we had but needs to play them to not look stupid in front of Ashton for wasting money.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 07:59 - Oct 20 with 4216 viewsDubtractor

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 00:22 - Oct 20 by DropCliffsNotBombs

Man, you got better for a while. You really did.


He's fine when we're doing well, but as soon as things start looking iffy he goes into posting diarrhoea mode, and needs to throw theories out there about everything and anything.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:05 - Oct 20 with 4175 viewsFrimleyBlue

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 07:59 - Oct 20 by Dubtractor

He's fine when we're doing well, but as soon as things start looking iffy he goes into posting diarrhoea mode, and needs to throw theories out there about everything and anything.


Tbh I think it's more as things as going well I'll say things people seem to agree with so everything is.

But when things don't and people don't agree with me then it's not just a case of disagreeing it falls into a pot of oh look back to what he did last time. Always negative etc etc always looking for theorys.

It was iust a late night question for discussing which I'd brought online from an offline chat nothing more nothing less.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:06 - Oct 20 with 4170 viewsBenters

People like winning.

He cares but and I mean this in the best possible way it’s a job.But of course he’d rather us be doing well.

After two brilliant seasons I’m not sure what anyone else really expected tbh.This season in the top league was always about surviving.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:08 - Oct 20 with 4147 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

I don't think you can question whether he cares.

KMc took a massive gamble signing a new contract. He could have gone to Brighton and probably succeeded, using them as a stepping stone for the Man Utd job.

As it is, if we get relegated will a PL club come in for him? Football is such a fickle business. I know people will use Kompany as an example, but I think that was the exception rather than the rule.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:27 - Oct 20 with 4043 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:59 - Oct 19 by FrimleyBlue

Erm it's alot more than 10 thanks. Been a busy one.

Anyways. Feel free to discuss it or not. Your call.

I'm off to bed. Night.


Good work Dubbers, now could you suggest a lie in too please?

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:40 - Oct 20 with 3971 viewsElephantintheRoom

It’s not so much that he doesn’t care - clearly he doesn’t as he wouldn’t have talked to any and every potential employer whilst everyone else was celebrating promotion or working 24/7 to get a run down club Prem-ready.

It’s more his inexperience and the way he’s had ridiculous money thrown at him despite his greed and disloyalty.

The cowboys took a cynical gamble throwing him a £5 million a year contract at the very moment he stabbed his employer in the back and let his No1 goalie slip away. IF he’s exposed as a one trick pony, as currently seems likely, the franchise can’t afford to sack him and there won’t be a queue of suitors to pay the get out clause so confidently put in place all of 5 months ago to get their money back.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:41 - Oct 20 with 3962 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

He didn't take the Brighton or Palace jobs. There's no "all but" about it.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:44 - Oct 20 with 3937 viewsFrimleyBlue

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:41 - Oct 20 by The_Flashing_Smile

He didn't take the Brighton or Palace jobs. There's no "all but" about it.


Difficult one flash. Its been confirmed both clubs thought they had their man so it kinda was all but..

Thankfully for us it didn't go through either of them, but that was two jobs he'd agreed to take before retracting.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:48 - Oct 20 with 3911 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:44 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue

Difficult one flash. Its been confirmed both clubs thought they had their man so it kinda was all but..

Thankfully for us it didn't go through either of them, but that was two jobs he'd agreed to take before retracting.


Where is your evidence he agreed to take those jobs before retracting?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:51 - Oct 20 with 3895 viewsFrimleyBlue

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:48 - Oct 20 by The_Flashing_Smile

Where is your evidence he agreed to take those jobs before retracting?


Phil confirmed both previously.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:04 - Oct 20 with 3817 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:51 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue

Phil confirmed both previously.


I'd like a link please. If McKenna literally agreed to take both jobs and later retracted that would be a huge story. Surely there's a link to a story by Phil if this was the case?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:06 - Oct 20 with 3807 viewsFrimleyBlue

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:04 - Oct 20 by The_Flashing_Smile

I'd like a link please. If McKenna literally agreed to take both jobs and later retracted that would be a huge story. Surely there's a link to a story by Phil if this was the case?


Wasn't a story. Phil commented within forum posts.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:08 - Oct 20 with 3782 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:06 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue

Wasn't a story. Phil commented within forum posts.


I'll wait for Phil or someone else to confirm. Sounds like nonsense to me.

As I say, that would be a big story not just an offhand comment by Phil on the forum.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:14 - Oct 20 with 3739 viewsRyorry

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:05 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue

Tbh I think it's more as things as going well I'll say things people seem to agree with so everything is.

But when things don't and people don't agree with me then it's not just a case of disagreeing it falls into a pot of oh look back to what he did last time. Always negative etc etc always looking for theorys.

It was iust a late night question for discussing which I'd brought online from an offline chat nothing more nothing less.


"It was iust a late night question for discussing which I'd brought online from an offline chat nothing more nothing less."

That old chestnut

Was the "offline chat" with a 4-year old wanting you to read them a bed-time story in place of you droning on about your theories re KM?

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:15 - Oct 20 with 3731 viewsFrimleyBlue

Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:14 - Oct 20 by Ryorry

"It was iust a late night question for discussing which I'd brought online from an offline chat nothing more nothing less."

That old chestnut

Was the "offline chat" with a 4-year old wanting you to read them a bed-time story in place of you droning on about your theories re KM?


No. Just a casual football chat with a few mates who support other prem clubs.

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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:43 - Oct 20 with 3607 viewsMattinLondon

He cares because he’s highly competitive and wants to win every game. He cares because his sense of professional pride is high. And he cares because he is ambitious and wants to manage/coach at the highest level.
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Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:06 - Oct 20 with 3405 viewsRobTheMonk

He definitely cares, why wouldn't you? He's been part of a monumental club trajectory to which he's been a huge part of and crucially, he's still here.

The lack of passion isn't a valid point in my opinion. His demeanour isn't a shouting, flamboyant over the top style but don't confuse that for lack of passion. It's just more controlled.

I've no doubt he'll get another prem job if we were to go down and even potentially if we stay up, but as a professional manager, you definitely care unless something has gone very, very wrong (I'd say Mick in his final games for instance couldn't care less, evidenced by him going cya later and careful what you wish for).
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