| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? 23:50 - Oct 19 with 7637 views | FrimleyBlue |
Just one for open discussion.
On one hand you've got a young manager who's done an absolutely brilliant job with our club. 2 promotions. Winning many many games. Some excellent and quite frankly scarily good games in the process.
Given us this prem season to enjoy and has every fans faith he will keep us up. Including mine.
But... how much does he care now?
We go down. He'll be off. Does it matter to him
For all this Ashton hugging rubbish, this is a man who had all but signed for Palace. All but joined Brighton.
So for people questioning some player efforts earlier. Lack of drive. Determination etc... perhaps the KM potentially leaving had an effect more than anyone's discussed before. After all, those who got him the job offers, he's replaced with younger up coming players without a 2nd thought. He's mentioned in the main players have taken it well.
He talks his usual game. As brilliant as all previous interview. Calm collective etc. But with no wins. Should we see more passion? Is that wrong to expect some?
Just genuine open question for a discussion nothing behind this it's just a chat I've had tonight off site that I thought I'd ask on site. So I know I'll get hit with abuse but I thought its actually a worthwhile chat.
How much does KM care about how we actually do in this league when Kompany rocked into the job he's got whilst taking Burnley down. If he cares Where's the passion or the efforts in changing things rather than sticking to something that's not worked yet.
Anyways over to you all. Well aware this is not gonna be a popular post. But kinda writing it with a neutral head on rather than a town fan one if that makes sense. [Post edited 20 Oct 2024 8:09]
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:09 - Oct 20 with 1637 views | FrimleyBlue |
I think It was a fair discussion
Many ( not myself ) have mentioned bringing some players in who wouldn't have the drive and passion as if we go down they'll just be off anyway. So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps.
I don't have any specific thought on it. I'm halfway between thinking of course he does but could also understand if he didn't care. Its just a job at the end of the day.. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:14 - Oct 20 with 1608 views | Churchman |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:40 - Oct 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
It’s not so much that he doesn’t care - clearly he doesn’t as he wouldn’t have talked to any and every potential employer whilst everyone else was celebrating promotion or working 24/7 to get a run down club Prem-ready.
It’s more his inexperience and the way he’s had ridiculous money thrown at him despite his greed and disloyalty.
The cowboys took a cynical gamble throwing him a £5 million a year contract at the very moment he stabbed his employer in the back and let his No1 goalie slip away. IF he’s exposed as a one trick pony, as currently seems likely, the franchise can’t afford to sack him and there won’t be a queue of suitors to pay the get out clause so confidently put in place all of 5 months ago to get their money back.
This year’s Burnley morphing into next year’s Luton looks a worrying scenario if you are crunching the numbers in your Ohio bunker. Just to enhance the feeling of déjà vu, the second hand car salesman fronting the club is talking about stand development |
You really are unpleasant. Never a good thing to say about anything. I presume you save anything positive for Canary Corner, OTIB or whoever you support.. |  | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:17 - Oct 20 with 1601 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:09 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I think It was a fair discussion
Many ( not myself ) have mentioned bringing some players in who wouldn't have the drive and passion as if we go down they'll just be off anyway. So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps.
I don't have any specific thought on it. I'm halfway between thinking of course he does but could also understand if he didn't care. Its just a job at the end of the day.. |
I think everything he says and does shows he cares. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:20 - Oct 20 with 1591 views | Ryorry |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:09 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I think It was a fair discussion
Many ( not myself ) have mentioned bringing some players in who wouldn't have the drive and passion as if we go down they'll just be off anyway. So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps.
I don't have any specific thought on it. I'm halfway between thinking of course he does but could also understand if he didn't care. Its just a job at the end of the day.. |
"So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps."
Err - spot the difference between players in their 30s, and a manager in his 30s!!
As for your second para, esp "Its just a job at the end of the day. ." - words fail. You seem to have so little understanding of others. |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:25 - Oct 20 with 1586 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:20 - Oct 20 by Ryorry |
"So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps."
Err - spot the difference between players in their 30s, and a manager in his 30s!!
As for your second para, esp "Its just a job at the end of the day. ." - words fail. You seem to have so little understanding of others. |
We didn't sign any players In their 30s. People were talking about the likes of clarke. Hence I mentioned it. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:29 - Oct 20 with 1563 views | GreenEye |
To 55 3r |  | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:30 - Oct 20 with 1569 views | PhilTWTD |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:09 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I think It was a fair discussion
Many ( not myself ) have mentioned bringing some players in who wouldn't have the drive and passion as if we go down they'll just be off anyway. So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps.
I don't have any specific thought on it. I'm halfway between thinking of course he does but could also understand if he didn't care. Its just a job at the end of the day.. |
It's a ridiculous assertion. Regardless of anything else, the opportunity to progress his career at a higher level depends on his success here. |  | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:33 - Oct 20 with 1545 views | Ryorry |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:25 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
We didn't sign any players In their 30s. People were talking about the likes of clarke. Hence I mentioned it. |
You knew what I meant. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:41 - Oct 20 with 1524 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:30 - Oct 20 by PhilTWTD |
It's a ridiculous assertion. Regardless of anything else, the opportunity to progress his career at a higher level depends on his success here. |
Not really as seen by Kompany. His stock has already risen. Relegation is seen a cert so he doesn't lose any rep by not keeping us up.
BTW. Not disagreeing about the care bit. He may well do.
But disagree he has to succeed here to progress himself. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:51 - Oct 20 with 1501 views | J2BLUE |
Insulting garbage |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:54 - Oct 20 with 1493 views | NeedhamChris |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:08 - Oct 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'll wait for Phil or someone else to confirm. Sounds like nonsense to me.
As I say, that would be a big story not just an offhand comment by Phil on the forum. |
This post from Frimmers is insulting garbage towards McKenna - and you've managed to attack it on literally the only bit he is right about. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:56 - Oct 20 with 1483 views | J2BLUE |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:30 - Oct 20 by PhilTWTD |
It's a ridiculous assertion. Regardless of anything else, the opportunity to progress his career at a higher level depends on his success here. |
This is about as near as Phil gets to calling you a tw@t | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:57 - Oct 20 with 1468 views | NeedhamChris |
I think it's entirely wrong to question if he cares. You don't achieve what he has in his short career so far with that type of attitude. He's a professional through and through.
I'm not so sure the summer would have been the worst time to part ways to be fair, leave on the highest of highs.
A fairer question I think - is do you think he regrets not going to Brighton? | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:59 - Oct 20 with 1449 views | leitrimblue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:56 - Oct 20 by J2BLUE |
This is about as near as Phil gets to calling you a tw@t |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 12:00 - Oct 20 with 1353 views | MK1 |
McKenna is learning on the job, as are the playing staff. He's never managed at this level before and almost all of the players haven't either. I expect both to learn quickly and progress us towards safety. McKenna is a highly intelligent individual (football wise, I know nothing of him outside football) who has shown he is more than capable of managing in the PL. The players need to tap into his way of playing and to do so quicker. I have written many times that we discarded those who got us here to quickly.
McKenna cares about ITFC. It's his first managerial job and he will always have a very soft spot for us. It isn't that he doesn't care, just that he is still learning the job (at this level) as are the players. Give it time and hopefully all will fall into place and we finish 17th or above this season. McKenna has shown me no indication that he doesn't care. |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 12:03 - Oct 20 with 1346 views | MK1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:41 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Not really as seen by Kompany. His stock has already risen. Relegation is seen a cert so he doesn't lose any rep by not keeping us up.
BTW. Not disagreeing about the care bit. He may well do.
But disagree he has to succeed here to progress himself. |
If we go down without showing any signs of improvement, then a bigger club isn't going to touch him. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 12:07 - Oct 20 with 1334 views | MK1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:58 - Oct 19 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
There's every chance he's out of his depth.
I don't think he is and I hope not. But Dyche has been around the block and knew how to get the better of us today |
"There's every chance he's out of his depth"?
Why would you think that?
Yes, this is his first time managing in the PL, but nothing to suggest he is out of his depth. He is learning on the job in full public glare, so it is highlighted more than somebody in a more normal job role. He is a very good manager and has proved that here, just needs time to adapt to the higher level of performance and pressure. He isn't out of his depth. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 12:10 - Oct 20 with 1328 views | MK1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 07:59 - Oct 20 by Dubtractor |
He's fine when we're doing well, but as soon as things start looking iffy he goes into posting diarrhoea mode, and needs to throw theories out there about everything and anything. |
I think that's a bit harsh. He is frustrated at our lack of winning a game of football, but then so are most. He tends to write what some might be thinking. I applaud that. (see my posts re;Tuchel) I don't mind Frimmers posting his thoughts, he hasn't called anybody out or done it in a nasty way. He deserves credit sometimes for post what he and some others may be thinking. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 13:13 - Oct 20 with 1280 views | MK1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 23:54 - Oct 19 by mrfixit426 |
I try to avoid your nonsense as much as I possibly can, but since you infect almost every thread on this site it's extremely difficult. In a plethora of bad takes, this is one of the worst so far. Just go away. I've never come across such a "know it all" who knows absolutely nothing about football. |
I really don't think Frimmers cares what you, me or others think of him. He says what he is thinking and sometimes that can back fire on him. Others are probably thinking it, so good on him for not being afraid to say it. I tend to say what I am thinking without taking a bit of time to think about it, so maybe I am not the best person to reply to you. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 13:27 - Oct 20 with 1257 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:30 - Oct 20 by PhilTWTD |
It's a ridiculous assertion. Regardless of anything else, the opportunity to progress his career at a higher level depends on his success here. |
Just like Kompany then | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 13:57 - Oct 20 with 1199 views | Europablue |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:02 - Oct 20 with 1183 views | Europablue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 09:08 - Oct 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'll wait for Phil or someone else to confirm. Sounds like nonsense to me.
As I say, that would be a big story not just an offhand comment by Phil on the forum. |
There is a grain of truth in it. Phil said something like both thought that they had their man. That doesn't mean that KM agreed to join them. | | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:12 - Oct 20 with 1132 views | pointofblue |
This might get as many downvotes as the OP but I don't think the lack of determination and drive on the pitch is from McKenna not caring but a split in the squad between those who were here last year and the new players. Maybe some with their nose out of joint. The key if so is bringing them together. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:35 - Oct 20 with 1103 views | wkj |
Times like these essentially confirmed how badly missed Stokie is with his sensible perspective... good grief |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:54 - Oct 20 with 1070 views | MattinLondon |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:41 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Not really as seen by Kompany. His stock has already risen. Relegation is seen a cert so he doesn't lose any rep by not keeping us up.
BTW. Not disagreeing about the care bit. He may well do.
But disagree he has to succeed here to progress himself. |
Kompany, is an anomaly. He was a world class player at a world class club - if an ex-League One player had the same managerial path as him, there’s no way Munich would have employed him. |  | | |
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