| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? 20:26 - Mar 28 with 2476 views | Zx1988 |
Thinking out loud a bit, so forgive me if it seems a bit far-fetched.
I think it's reasonable to assume that Ashton is at least sympathetic to Reform, otherwise he wouldn't have invited them to ITFC, presented them with shirts, had lunch with them etc., doubly so if the 'To Mark' signed shirt was for him.
Similarly, notwithstanding any impact of Ashton's ego, it feels beyond sense that he could get the PR on this so wrong, so consistently.
Reform's take on Louise Cobbold's art this afternoon also seems a bit odd. Unless it's just a simple 'owning the Libs' sort of play, I can't see what their aim is here, other than to keep things prominent and further annoy a good chunk of the fans.
Would it be outside the realms of reason that Reform and Ashton are working together, to try and engineer his sacking? At which point Reform could go big on the 'sacked for supporting Reform' line, which would no doubt play exceptionally well with both their current supporters, and those who can be tempted to join the camp.
Probably a load of BS, but part of me isn't quite convinced that the seeming ineptitude of how this is being handled is just accidental. |  |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:32 - Mar 28 with 1744 views | J2BLUE |
F##king hell. |  |
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| Roflcopter. (n/t) on 20:33 - Mar 28 with 1724 views | Bloots |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:42 - Mar 28 with 1616 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:32 - Mar 28 by J2BLUE |
F##king hell. |
That’s enough TWTD for one day! Lol |  |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:43 - Mar 28 with 1610 views | SitfcB |
The plot has been lost. |  |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:45 - Mar 28 with 1582 views | itfc2021 |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:46 - Mar 28 with 1564 views | MattinLondon |
The only conspiracy will be if Ashton has political aspirations.
Successful CEO, popular, becomes the next Reform candidate for Ipswich. |  | | |
| Roflcopter. (n/t) on 20:46 - Mar 28 with 1564 views | blueislander |
| Roflcopter. (n/t) on 20:33 - Mar 28 by Bloots |
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There’s overthinking, but that is different class. | | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:46 - Mar 28 with 1542 views | FrimleyBlue |
No. Reform are just being reform. And because most companies go nowhere near them they are making the most of itfc endorsing them. |  |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:47 - Mar 28 with 1539 views | redrickstuhaart |
Nope. Silly tbh.
Its just Reform being trolls to sow division, which aids them. Though I agree it seems clear that Ashton is a supporter of Reform, which is massively problematic for our club. | |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:48 - Mar 28 with 1526 views | vilanovablue |
More like Farage knows there's a local election coming up in Ipswich used his contacts to utilise the club as a tool to do what he does. He knows his presence is divisive so using the club was handy way for him to use the divide and conquer playbook. The fact Ashton allowed himself to be sucked in is depressing. A bleak week for the club. |  | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:48 - Mar 28 with 1525 views | bazza |
Deary me. |  | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:50 - Mar 28 with 1485 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I've been trying to think how the whole situation can be summed up and, to me, it's a bit like this:
My wife confronted me about a night out the other day I had with another woman. When she confronted me, I told her that she happened to be in the same place as me and we hit it off and had a good evening and went our separate ways.
Unfortunately my wife then told me that the woman herself told me that we had done more than that so I had to deny that we spent the rest of the night together.
Later my wife showed me a screenshot of the message I sent the other woman asking her to meet up and more details of our night of passion.
I had to front up and apologise for the other woman and say there are a lot of mistruths out there.
I think that should do the trick, shouldn't it? All should be fine now. |  |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:50 - Mar 28 with 1485 views | Zx1988 |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:46 - Mar 28 by MattinLondon |
The only conspiracy will be if Ashton has political aspirations.
Successful CEO, popular, becomes the next Reform candidate for Ipswich. |
I can certainly see that. Reform would probably love to get hold of him for his sporting contacts etc., and I dare say that Ashton would feel that he'd be well cut-out to transfer his skills from CEO-ship to being a Reform MP. | |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:52 - Mar 28 with 1449 views | blueislander |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:47 - Mar 28 by redrickstuhaart |
Nope. Silly tbh.
Its just Reform being trolls to sow division, which aids them. Though I agree it seems clear that Ashton is a supporter of Reform, which is massively problematic for our club. |
Ashton being a supporter of Reform is not a problem per se. Bringing ITFC into his political leanings is, and arguably would be if he held a different political view. | | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:52 - Mar 28 with 1448 views | Zx1988 |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:48 - Mar 28 by vilanovablue |
More like Farage knows there's a local election coming up in Ipswich used his contacts to utilise the club as a tool to do what he does. He knows his presence is divisive so using the club was handy way for him to use the divide and conquer playbook. The fact Ashton allowed himself to be sucked in is depressing. A bleak week for the club. |
Yes, that's probably a good part of it.
It seems that the easiest way to get one over on our 'high powered' CEO is to tickle his tummy and appeal to his ego. | |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:57 - Mar 28 with 1397 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:47 - Mar 28 by redrickstuhaart |
Nope. Silly tbh.
Its just Reform being trolls to sow division, which aids them. Though I agree it seems clear that Ashton is a supporter of Reform, which is massively problematic for our club. |
Even if he is, it wouldn’t be problematic if he got on with the job and went about the business in the best interest of the football club because for a start no one would know and it wouldn’t really be anyone’s business anyway. | |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:00 - Mar 28 with 1366 views | nrb1985 |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:50 - Mar 28 by Zx1988 |
I can certainly see that. Reform would probably love to get hold of him for his sporting contacts etc., and I dare say that Ashton would feel that he'd be well cut-out to transfer his skills from CEO-ship to being a Reform MP. |
Being a MP for reform won’t even pay him 1/10th of what he gets here if you include his shares and the upside from those.
What I can see though is that if he gets tinned here he ends up blubbing on GB News about being cancelled. [Post edited 28 Mar 21:02]
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:01 - Mar 28 with 1363 views | brogansnose |
Yep, probably a load of BS, in fact, definately a load of BS. |  | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:12 - Mar 28 with 1298 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 20:52 - Mar 28 by blueislander |
Ashton being a supporter of Reform is not a problem per se. Bringing ITFC into his political leanings is, and arguably would be if he held a different political view. |
Having a boss who supports a bigotted outfit like Reform, is potentially a big issue in recruitment and player retention / contentment. [Post edited 28 Mar 21:12]
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:19 - Mar 28 with 1251 views | blueislander |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:12 - Mar 28 by redrickstuhaart |
Having a boss who supports a bigotted outfit like Reform, is potentially a big issue in recruitment and player retention / contentment. [Post edited 28 Mar 21:12]
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We know that the players were upset about this, but that was not necessarily because of what areform represents , but possibly that is was a very unwelcome distraction to achieving their goal. | | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:25 - Mar 28 with 1229 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:19 - Mar 28 by blueislander |
We know that the players were upset about this, but that was not necessarily because of what areform represents , but possibly that is was a very unwelcome distraction to achieving their goal. |
Do you think Anis Mehmeti, the son of Albanian immigrants, is OK with what Reform stands for?
It need not be any distraction for the players if they don't care about the issues involved. The Guardian article written on the subject stated that there was plenty of discussion of it amongst the players.
Several non-white fans have commented or been quoted on threads in here and their feelings over this. Would it be reasonable to assume that the non-white players and foreign players would have similar sentiments?
The players have seen departures from their number due to non-compliance with the standards and values that the club promotes. Do you think it would be reasonable for them to expect those above them to be held to the same level of accountability? | |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:25 - Mar 28 with 1221 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:12 - Mar 28 by redrickstuhaart |
Having a boss who supports a bigotted outfit like Reform, is potentially a big issue in recruitment and player retention / contentment. [Post edited 28 Mar 21:12]
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Unlikely. The players spend 95% of their time at the training ground with the manager and his staff.
Sartori owns nearly half of Sunderland, have you seen his background? Did it affect their incredible overseas recruitment last summer?
Professional footballers who are also agent driven likely to care much more about their individual contract offer and what league they’re playing in over anything else. They also may not share the same politics as you.
It became an issue because he allowed Reform to make it a promotional visit with ITFC so front and center. | |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:38 - Mar 28 with 1135 views | GlasgowBlue |
I think you are letting your imagination run wild. |  |
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| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:38 - Mar 28 with 1131 views | Meadowlark |
"I think it's reasonable to assume that Ashton is at least sympathetic to Reform"
That bit, plainly seems to be true. As for the rest? Unlikely.
I think he, like others of the Reform mentality have no awareness of others' thoughts and feelings and no empathy. Their only satisfaction comes from benefitting themselves. No comprehension that he was even doing anything controversial. Didn't cross his mind for a second. |  | | |
| Is there an ulterior motive to all this? on 21:47 - Mar 28 with 1073 views | Sarge |
What would he get out of it? Sacked from a highly paid and highly visible role as CEO of a former and potentially future Premier League club in order to provide a bunch of traitorous grifters with about 45 mins worth of new ammo for their persecution complex? | | | |
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