| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... 07:19 - Aug 28 with 5581 views | christiand |
How come a former League 1 side can afford to spend £7m on a very promising player and our owner seems to be bickering - for weeks - over paying an extra £200K for a player? Daft really, but just highlights what PH is working with regarding the austerity created by ME at our club. No wonder we are going nowhere fast!
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:23 - Aug 28 with 4804 views | Currie10 |
What PH is working with....
Try what Mick worked with!
Hurst has been given a relative warchest - our most spending on fees since Jewell Keane Magilton.
I'll no doubt get the wages loan fees etc however when Mings went for example, Mick didn't get anything like this.
Jesus wept. Hurst has been backed rather well. |  | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:27 - Aug 28 with 4775 views | groovyASH |
Why waste time comparing? We know what ME is like, he's the most predictable chairman in the football league (that is both a blessing and a curse) |  |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:27 - Aug 28 with 4772 views | christiand |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:23 - Aug 28 by Currie10 |
What PH is working with....
Try what Mick worked with!
Hurst has been given a relative warchest - our most spending on fees since Jewell Keane Magilton.
I'll no doubt get the wages loan fees etc however when Mings went for example, Mick didn't get anything like this.
Jesus wept. Hurst has been backed rather well. |
He hasn't. PH has been asked to generate a war chest from selling the club's better players and still ME has a £4m profit from those deals and that's now generating interest while it sits in the bank. ME hasn't actually offered any additional financial support regarding getting transfers over the line. | |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:31 - Aug 28 with 4761 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:23 - Aug 28 by Currie10 |
What PH is working with....
Try what Mick worked with!
Hurst has been given a relative warchest - our most spending on fees since Jewell Keane Magilton.
I'll no doubt get the wages loan fees etc however when Mings went for example, Mick didn't get anything like this.
Jesus wept. Hurst has been backed rather well. |
What are you on about? Hurst has had to generate his own transfer fees by selling off probably our 3 best players.
MM sold Mings for £8m and spent it on a load of dross.
Put it whichever way you want, Hurst has decided to spend money on lower league players, whilst Mick spent the money on wages for ex Prem/experienced Championship players. This whole notion that Mick wasn’t backed like Hurst has been, is a load of tosh. |  |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:38 - Aug 28 with 4725 views | christiand |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:27 - Aug 28 by groovyASH |
Why waste time comparing? We know what ME is like, he's the most predictable chairman in the football league (that is both a blessing and a curse) |
I know GroovyAsh, I was thinking the same while I typed this thread, but I just get so frustrated at times, especially when I read Blackburn Rovers are splashing out on a very talented striker, while we hesitate about spending a minimal amount in comparison to get a deal done. Sometimes I think yes I'm grateful for ME as our owner compared to others around the league and then on other occasions I get quite annoyed to his lack of proper support, shortsightedness and doing most things on the cheap at our club - he has made us what we are currently. Just feel it is one of those mornings, need to get it off my chest, see it as a form of therapy...............and breathe!!! | |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:42 - Aug 28 with 4696 views | Coastalblue |
Even if their current attempt works out I would still rather have ME than their owners. |  |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:43 - Aug 28 with 4688 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:31 - Aug 28 by Kieran_Knows |
What are you on about? Hurst has had to generate his own transfer fees by selling off probably our 3 best players.
MM sold Mings for £8m and spent it on a load of dross.
Put it whichever way you want, Hurst has decided to spend money on lower league players, whilst Mick spent the money on wages for ex Prem/experienced Championship players. This whole notion that Mick wasn’t backed like Hurst has been, is a load of tosh. |
McCarthy didn’t get the Mings money to spend - that much is blindingly obvious from the fact we made a profit that year rather than the usual £5-6m loss
Flabbergasting that people still peddle that myth
EDIT; But yes, I do think the same will apply this year, so agree that Hurst isn’t working with anything extra [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 7:44]
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:45 - Aug 28 with 4661 views | textbackup |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:43 - Aug 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
McCarthy didn’t get the Mings money to spend - that much is blindingly obvious from the fact we made a profit that year rather than the usual £5-6m loss
Flabbergasting that people still peddle that myth
EDIT; But yes, I do think the same will apply this year, so agree that Hurst isn’t working with anything extra [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 7:44]
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:06 - Aug 28 with 4559 views | Dennyx4 |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:45 - Aug 28 by textbackup |
so he didn't use the money in wages then? |
Not the season that he states.
Every season we are making a loss between 4m & 6m a season in MM's time here, however the year we sold Mings we made over £5m profit (only season we made a profit). |  | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:09 - Aug 28 with 4548 views | homer_123 |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:27 - Aug 28 by christiand |
He hasn't. PH has been asked to generate a war chest from selling the club's better players and still ME has a £4m profit from those deals and that's now generating interest while it sits in the bank. ME hasn't actually offered any additional financial support regarding getting transfers over the line. |
Why is this a surprise.
Evans and the Club both clearly and unequivocally stated that any new incumbent after MM would be working under the same financial stipulations and framework. |  |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:10 - Aug 28 with 4546 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
Well it’s good to know that if Evans was to ultimately lead us into League One, the pitchforks would be put away should we return and spend £7m on a player.
Evans hasn’t seen us drop into League One. But yet he’s seemingly worthy of less credit than the Venkys which is very strange. | |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:15 - Aug 28 with 4521 views | christiand |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:09 - Aug 28 by homer_123 |
Why is this a surprise.
Evans and the Club both clearly and unequivocally stated that any new incumbent after MM would be working under the same financial stipulations and framework. |
Just disappointing when you see Ipswich Town for what it is really. Blackburn, I'm assuming would be exempt from EPL parachute payments, but still able to find £7m for a talented youngster when we are scratching around through the coppers trying to club together £200K. Not really a surprise where we find ourselves. | |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:16 - Aug 28 with 4520 views | itfcjoe |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:45 - Aug 28 by textbackup |
so he didn't use the money in wages then? |
Not really.
Basically we lose £6m a season which is just the running costs minus the income.
The year Mings left, we actually made a £5-6m profit because we sold Cresswell late the summer before so those 2 transfers didn't increase our budget at all.
Until we release accounts next year, we won't know whether Hurst has been able to re-invest the fees, but it looks as though he has been given a bit more than Mick ever had. |  |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:18 - Aug 28 with 4505 views | textbackup |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:15 - Aug 28 by christiand |
Just disappointing when you see Ipswich Town for what it is really. Blackburn, I'm assuming would be exempt from EPL parachute payments, but still able to find £7m for a talented youngster when we are scratching around through the coppers trying to club together £200K. Not really a surprise where we find ourselves. |
we didn't spend 7million on one player even when we were in the premier league, it really doesn't worry me that Blackburn are spending money we haven't got.
its what it is, nothing any of us can do about it. | |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:11 - Aug 28 with 4368 views | RegencyBlue |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:09 - Aug 28 by homer_123 |
Why is this a surprise.
Evans and the Club both clearly and unequivocally stated that any new incumbent after MM would be working under the same financial stipulations and framework. |
Indeed Evans did.
I never did understand the euphoria from some in response to the 'interview' because all it was saying was 'new manager, same business plan'. |  | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:27 - Aug 28 with 4285 views | finidiwoah |
what concerns me is that we sold a striker that had scored or been involved in almost 30 goals last season for £5m where Forest are selling a striker that has only ever scored 8 goals for £7m..... |  | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:36 - Aug 28 with 4247 views | braveblue |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:23 - Aug 28 by Currie10 |
What PH is working with....
Try what Mick worked with!
Hurst has been given a relative warchest - our most spending on fees since Jewell Keane Magilton.
I'll no doubt get the wages loan fees etc however when Mings went for example, Mick didn't get anything like this.
Jesus wept. Hurst has been backed rather well. |
What!! Our best two players were sold and the other two strikers let go and sold. That is fantastic backing!!! Evans is sitting on a £5m profit. If he does not spend anything to get a couple in and we do badly he had better be prepared for some justified abuse.
Re Blackburn and most of the league. The simple difference is that Evans is totally clueless. The Tilt non transfer is a complete shambles and we may have one recognised centre back for Sunday. | | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:40 - Aug 28 with 4228 views | Ftnfwest |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 07:43 - Aug 28 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
McCarthy didn’t get the Mings money to spend - that much is blindingly obvious from the fact we made a profit that year rather than the usual £5-6m loss
Flabbergasting that people still peddle that myth
EDIT; But yes, I do think the same will apply this year, so agree that Hurst isn’t working with anything extra [Post edited 28 Aug 2018 7:44]
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Its true, although he did use up a fair proportion over the following seasons on expensive premier league loans |  | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:22 - Aug 28 with 4116 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:06 - Aug 28 by Dennyx4 |
Not the season that he states.
Every season we are making a loss between 4m & 6m a season in MM's time here, however the year we sold Mings we made over £5m profit (only season we made a profit). |
That season's accounts also had the Cresswell sale in it.
So sales of £11.5m and we only made a profit of £5m. Almost like the costs of running the club still saw an operating loss of over £6m |  | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:24 - Aug 28 with 4109 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:27 - Aug 28 by finidiwoah |
what concerns me is that we sold a striker that had scored or been involved in almost 30 goals last season for £5m where Forest are selling a striker that has only ever scored 8 goals for £7m..... |
It's almost like they are players at different stages of their career with all the potential 'added value' that brings.
I'd suggest Blackburn are overpaying significantly too.
And Waghorn had 2 good seasons his whole career. 2 season in 12 and still could be worth £7.5m at 29 to us in fees. | | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:24 - Aug 28 with 4109 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:27 - Aug 28 by finidiwoah |
what concerns me is that we sold a striker that had scored or been involved in almost 30 goals last season for £5m where Forest are selling a striker that has only ever scored 8 goals for £7m..... |
It's almost like they are players at different stages of their career with all the potential 'added value' that brings.
I'd suggest Blackburn are overpaying significantly too.
And Waghorn had 2 good seasons his whole career. 2 season in 12 and still could be worth £7.5m at 29 to us in fees | | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:25 - Aug 28 with 4105 views | hype313 |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 09:27 - Aug 28 by finidiwoah |
what concerns me is that we sold a striker that had scored or been involved in almost 30 goals last season for £5m where Forest are selling a striker that has only ever scored 8 goals for £7m..... |
He's 19. |  |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:27 - Aug 28 with 4099 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 08:16 - Aug 28 by itfcjoe |
Not really.
Basically we lose £6m a season which is just the running costs minus the income.
The year Mings left, we actually made a £5-6m profit because we sold Cresswell late the summer before so those 2 transfers didn't increase our budget at all.
Until we release accounts next year, we won't know whether Hurst has been able to re-invest the fees, but it looks as though he has been given a bit more than Mick ever had. |
Agree and the money generated this summer still has to pay for what could be 3 expensive loans, January window and next summer too.
It hasn't disappeared (yet) | | | |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 12:03 - Aug 28 with 4064 views | itfcjoe |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:24 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
It's almost like they are players at different stages of their career with all the potential 'added value' that brings.
I'd suggest Blackburn are overpaying significantly too.
And Waghorn had 2 good seasons his whole career. 2 season in 12 and still could be worth £7.5m at 29 to us in fees. |
I don't think this is overpaying, great prospect and worst that could happen is he struggles and they'd still reclaim most of that fee back anyway. | |
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| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 12:05 - Aug 28 with 4054 views | itfcjoe |
| Ben Brereton off to Blackburn Rovers it seems...... on 11:27 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Agree and the money generated this summer still has to pay for what could be 3 expensive loans, January window and next summer too.
It hasn't disappeared (yet) |
Until accounts are out we can't tell.
But it does feel as though Hurst has had more backing this window than Mick has had in recent years.
Once Jack Ross went to Sunderland, I think Hurst's negotiating position got stronger with regards to the job and the terms of it with regards to investment | |
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