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Anyone who votes for him votes thinking he'll keep his promises should have been paying more attention. And that goes for the ERG zealots as much as the general public.
Tried to show @BorisJohnson the picture of Jack Williment-Barr. The 4-year-old with suspected pneumonia forced to lie on a pile of coats on the floor of a Leeds hospital.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:11 - Dec 9 by eireblue
Dr Yvette Oade, chief medical officer at Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust, said: "Our hospitals are extremely busy at the moment and we are very sorry that Jack's family had a long wait in our emergency department. "We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available in the treatment room, and no bed. This falls below our usual high standards, and for this we would like to sincerely apologise to Jack and his family."
As I said, it could well be fake news. That said, if there were chairs then why was he put on the floor which is probably the worst place in terms of hygiene for him to be?
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:14 - Dec 9 by C_HealyIsAPleasure
A vote for another party is a vote for that party, not anyone else. People should not be made to feel guilty for voting for their preferred candidate/party, just because it’s not the right non-Tory option
They shouldn't be made to feel guilty, if they are good people they should look at the past 9 years, look at Johnson and his cabinet, and feel the guilt naturally.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:16 - Dec 9 by GlasgowBlue
As I said, it could well be fake news. That said, if there were chairs then why was he put on the floor which is probably the worst place in terms of hygiene for him to be?
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:16 - Dec 9 by GlasgowBlue
As I said, it could well be fake news. That said, if there were chairs then why was he put on the floor which is probably the worst place in terms of hygiene for him to be?
Come on man, you;re better than this. Helping to spread a clearly false narrative that tries to discredit the story.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:16 - Dec 9 by GlasgowBlue
As I said, it could well be fake news. That said, if there were chairs then why was he put on the floor which is probably the worst place in terms of hygiene for him to be?
Hmmmm, if something could be fake news, would it be best not to spread potentially fake news?
I am not a medical practitioner, but he was given a bed when he first arrIved.
Would a child with pneumonia be bit tired, and more comfortable lying down?
I don’t know.
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Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:30 - Dec 9 with 925 views
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 20:47 - Dec 9 by jas0999
That’s a matter of opinion isn’t it? I’m bored of folk not debating Corbyn as well. Madness. He’s no better than Johnson in my opinion. Both not fit to be PM. Yet every day, people defend Corbyn and slate Johnson. Can’t understand the defence of Corbyn personally.
It's not. I can demonstrate to 4 decimal places why you're an idiot.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:19 - Dec 9 by Herbivore
They shouldn't be made to feel guilty, if they are good people they should look at the past 9 years, look at Johnson and his cabinet, and feel the guilt naturally.
I’m talking about people voting for other parties
People that vote for say the Green Party shouldn’t feel any more guilty about the result than someone that votes Labour, quite clearly
Highlighting crass stupidity since sometime around 2010
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:14 - Dec 9 by C_HealyIsAPleasure
A vote for another party is a vote for that party, not anyone else. People should not be made to feel guilty for voting for their preferred candidate/party, just because it’s not the right non-Tory option
I see your point and I wish there was more truth in it. As I have posted previously if enough people feel the same way and vote with their best option they would potentially get in. I also think everyone should vote. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for either serious candidate in a constituency (or one of the 3 in those rare cases) you should vote for the one that best represents you.
However, it is the first past the post, single non-transferable vote system that means many constituencies are clearly an either or and a vote for someone else is an abstention on what will count.
My intention is not to feel anyone feel guilty (except perhaps anyone who voted against better representation in the referendum on it). I also understand there are reasons why some choose not to vote and accept there are valid reasons.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:36 - Dec 9 by C_HealyIsAPleasure
I’m talking about people voting for other parties
People that vote for say the Green Party shouldn’t feel any more guilty about the result than someone that votes Labour, quite clearly
How does a party like the Greens or Lib Dems get enough support to eventually form a government? By building support at each election. Progression.
Of course it's not going to happen at this election. Or the next. But the smaller parties have the right to field candidates and the voters have a]every right to vote for them.
Far too many people are trying to make this country a two party state.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:26 - Dec 9 by eireblue
Hmmmm, if something could be fake news, would it be best not to spread potentially fake news?
I am not a medical practitioner, but he was given a bed when he first arrIved.
Would a child with pneumonia be bit tired, and more comfortable lying down?
I don’t know.
"Jack was rushed to hospital in an ambulance and given a bed in the paediatric emergency department, but later staff at the hospital had to move him out of the bed because of an emergency case — an episode in clinical juggling taking place every day in every hospital across the country."
The real concern here is how quick the right were to try and rubbish this story, before the full facts were known. Just as they did with the alleged attack on Hancock, which turned out not be be an attack.
One of the notably whines from the right has been the failing of democracy if an advisory is not changed from bring advisory. Yet here we have an election campaign where not only rightwing politicians are happy to lie on a daily basis, 52 more murders under Labour, a website pretending to be from Labour, with the right wing press joining in as well with a scurrilous story about Corbyn that was quickly pulled from the Sun on saturday.
What part of the democratic process requires a blatant level of lying and misrepresentation that smacks more of North Korea than it does the UK ?
I can only ask Tory voters what would be their response were this barrage of deceit to be coming from the progressive side of this campaign. Because that answer goes right to the core of personal integrity.
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Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:43 - Dec 9 with 896 views
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:16 - Dec 9 by GlasgowBlue
As I said, it could well be fake news. That said, if there were chairs then why was he put on the floor which is probably the worst place in terms of hygiene for him to be?
Jesus Christ GB, I expected better from you.
Anyone who looks at that picture and blames the parents for putting him on the floor, rather than despairing at the system that forced them to, is beyond reason.
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Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:46 - Dec 9 with 889 views
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:36 - Dec 9 by C_HealyIsAPleasure
I’m talking about people voting for other parties
People that vote for say the Green Party shouldn’t feel any more guilty about the result than someone that votes Labour, quite clearly
That is true enough.
But [from my point of view] I cannot help but feel that people I have seen on here, and those I know in real life can feck off and do one in future, as there seems to be a determination to vote for someone [and their party] who is actively trying to hurt me and others who are in need of a bit of understanding right now.
I've worked 30 years straight - I'm not lazy - I've stood out there winter after winter and got on with things. I bought my first house when I was 21. I'm not the brightest but I'm not a complete douche either. I got ill and have been screwed over by this government every single day since.
And there's lots of normal people like me who just want to get well and back to work and contribute and have their own independence again.
What I have found is the opposite to help. I have found nothing short of abuse, frankly. Over and over...
I can't help but take that personally when these bastards are now shamelessly lying to buy themselves another term of damage. I hate them.
Then I see people banging about fecking Corbyn this, Corbyn that all the time. Utter, deluded idiots. And then if you can see what's going on you're the one who gets accused of being blinded! It's weird mate.
I get your point btw. Fine, vote Green. You could do a damn sight worse than that.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:40 - Dec 9 by GlasgowBlue
How does a party like the Greens or Lib Dems get enough support to eventually form a government? By building support at each election. Progression.
Of course it's not going to happen at this election. Or the next. But the smaller parties have the right to field candidates and the voters have a]every right to vote for them.
Far too many people are trying to make this country a two party state.
When did we last have a government that is neither Tory nor Labour?
It is not trying to make it a two party system as much as the problems of moving away from a 2 party system.
I think the most likely way to move away from it would be reform of the electoral system. That isn't going to happen any time soon either.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 20:18 - Dec 9 by LeoMuff
and it truly was different before 2010, the NHS has been utter run down by nearly a decade of the Tories and now come election time they have the cheek to announce some spending.
These stunts put the direct consequences of these cuts into the public eye, otherwise people who don’t use the services genuinely think this is scaremongering.
I had to have a quick double read when I saw the words “cuts”. Thought it might have had an “n” in it, but both words work!!
GhostOfEscobar
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Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 22:43 - Dec 9 with 810 views
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:43 - Dec 9 by m14_blue
Jesus Christ GB, I expected better from you.
Anyone who looks at that picture and blames the parents for putting him on the floor, rather than despairing at the system that forced them to, is beyond reason.
you can take the g.b. out of tory but you can't take tory out of g.b.
forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows
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Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 07:47 - Dec 10 with 743 views
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:43 - Dec 9 by m14_blue
Jesus Christ GB, I expected better from you.
Anyone who looks at that picture and blames the parents for putting him on the floor, rather than despairing at the system that forced them to, is beyond reason.
Yeah I accept that my comment was ill judged. I have 4 kids, all of whom at one stage or another have spent time waiting at A&E. At each time, either my wife or I have cradled our kids in our arms and would not have dreamed of putting them on the floor.
That said, I wasn’t at the hospital in Leeds and have no idea how either the child or parent were feeling or the chain of events that lead to the poor lad being placed on the floor.
As a parent I was tying to get my head around the situation but accept that being ignorant of the circumstances I should have kept my thoughts to myself.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 07:47 - Dec 10 by GlasgowBlue
Yeah I accept that my comment was ill judged. I have 4 kids, all of whom at one stage or another have spent time waiting at A&E. At each time, either my wife or I have cradled our kids in our arms and would not have dreamed of putting them on the floor.
That said, I wasn’t at the hospital in Leeds and have no idea how either the child or parent were feeling or the chain of events that lead to the poor lad being placed on the floor.
As a parent I was tying to get my head around the situation but accept that being ignorant of the circumstances I should have kept my thoughts to myself.
Fair enough, nice one. We’ve all done it.
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Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 12:18 - Dec 10 with 688 views
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:16 - Dec 9 by GlasgowBlue
As I said, it could well be fake news. That said, if there were chairs then why was he put on the floor which is probably the worst place in terms of hygiene for him to be?
Nurse who works there & who I've spoken with personally about it, confirmed it as a true story. Probably why the hosp. was (dis)honoured by the visit of the Health Sec.
It turns out that this young fella was sent to A&E by ambulance when he had suspected-pneumonia which turned out to be flu and tonsilities, bypassed A&E and was given a bed immediately, his family was asked to give it up as a real emergency came in, and he lay on the floor of a clinical room as he found it more comfortable rather than an offered-chair.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 13:19 - Dec 10 by chicoazul
It turns out that this young fella was sent to A&E by ambulance when he had suspected-pneumonia which turned out to be flu and tonsilities, bypassed A&E and was given a bed immediately, his family was asked to give it up as a real emergency came in, and he lay on the floor of a clinical room as he found it more comfortable rather than an offered-chair.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 21:46 - Dec 9 by Nthsuffolkblue
When did we last have a government that is neither Tory nor Labour?
It is not trying to make it a two party system as much as the problems of moving away from a 2 party system.
I think the most likely way to move away from it would be reform of the electoral system. That isn't going to happen any time soon either.
I do get your point, though.
Had to just read through the posts, and seeing this Needed to point out that:
WE HAD A COALITION, IT SAVED US FROM THR WORST TORY CUTS. 2010-2015. But the Tories screwed them, and their green policies got stopped and austery ramped up, when Cameron said the Only the Tories would give an EU referrendum AND THEN WE ENDED UP IN THIS MESS.
Boris Johnson here demonstrating how much of a toss he gives about anyone else on 13:19 - Dec 10 by chicoazul
It turns out that this young fella was sent to A&E by ambulance when he had suspected-pneumonia which turned out to be flu and tonsilities, bypassed A&E and was given a bed immediately, his family was asked to give it up as a real emergency came in, and he lay on the floor of a clinical room as he found it more comfortable rather than an offered-chair.
It doesn’t ‘turn out’ that way at all, that’s always been the story reported by the parents and confirmed by the hospital.
You’ve put forward a really selective and misleading take from the article and I’m not even sure to what end?
The story is true, the photo is real, the child was on the floor because there weren’t any beds for him. Are you suggesting that, because it eventually turned out that he didn’t have pneumonia, it doesn’t really matter?