| Is this because.... 10:13 - Feb 29 with 51099 views | hampstead_blue |
....a middle aged white, privileged, probably Oxbridge man in a safe job for life cannot accept working for a very determined and strong woman?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51687287
She has clearly taken away his power base and he does not like it one bit.
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Is this because.... on 10:30 - Mar 3 with 2613 views | itfcjoe |
| Is this because.... on 10:27 - Mar 3 by GlasgowBlue |
It’s not the first time I’ve seen this done on here. It’s dividing people into good immigrants and bad immigrants.
Sunny Hundal covers this very well with regards to another British Asian member of the cabinet.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but do think being able to use an example of a policy she is pushing which would have kept her own parents out of the country does allow you to get the measure of the person.
Like someone who grew up in a council house and parents on benefits who would want to push on with Universal Credit |  |
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| Is this because.... on 13:48 - Mar 3 with 2569 views | GaryCooper |
| Is this because.... on 12:53 - Mar 2 by Herbivore |
The problem with arguments that remove all nuance and context is that they generally miss the point, as is demonstrated here. |
No, some choose to ignore clear racism, some claim racism where it does not exist, the criticism of Patel is clear, justified and not racist, the same can be said about the criticism of Abbott, although this is tagged as racist, it is nonsense. |  | | |
| Is this because.... on 14:10 - Mar 3 with 2544 views | tractordownsouth |
| Is this because.... on 13:48 - Mar 3 by GaryCooper |
No, some choose to ignore clear racism, some claim racism where it does not exist, the criticism of Patel is clear, justified and not racist, the same can be said about the criticism of Abbott, although this is tagged as racist, it is nonsense. |
Have you looked at the stuff Abbott receives on Twitter? |  |
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| Is this because.... on 14:13 - Mar 3 with 2532 views | Herbivore |
| Is this because.... on 13:48 - Mar 3 by GaryCooper |
No, some choose to ignore clear racism, some claim racism where it does not exist, the criticism of Patel is clear, justified and not racist, the same can be said about the criticism of Abbott, although this is tagged as racist, it is nonsense. |
I've not seen racist abuse of Patel. I have seen racist abuse of Abbott. |  |
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| Is this because.... on 15:24 - Mar 3 with 2496 views | GaryCooper |
| Is this because.... on 14:10 - Mar 3 by tractordownsouth |
Have you looked at the stuff Abbott receives on Twitter? |
I have not, I am in no doubt that Abbott receives racist abuse, she is criticised due to her clumsy inadequacy, her smug tones and hypocrisy.
It really is not difficult. | | | |
| Is this because.... on 15:27 - Mar 3 with 2487 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is this because.... on 15:24 - Mar 3 by GaryCooper |
I have not, I am in no doubt that Abbott receives racist abuse, she is criticised due to her clumsy inadequacy, her smug tones and hypocrisy.
It really is not difficult. |
Yet so many people seem to struggle with it! |  |
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| Is this because.... on 15:29 - Mar 3 with 2477 views | GaryCooper |
| Is this because.... on 15:27 - Mar 3 by SpruceMoose |
Yet so many people seem to struggle with it! |
It is because they wish to. | | | |
| Is this because.... on 15:29 - Mar 3 with 2472 views | footers |
| Is this because.... on 15:24 - Mar 3 by GaryCooper |
I have not, I am in no doubt that Abbott receives racist abuse, she is criticised due to her clumsy inadequacy, her smug tones and hypocrisy.
It really is not difficult. |
So her racist abuse is due to her "clumsy inadequacy, her smug tones and hypocrisy". Is that what you're saying? |  |
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| Is this because.... on 15:30 - Mar 3 with 2466 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is this because.... on 15:29 - Mar 3 by GaryCooper |
It is because they wish to. |
I agree 100%. Preconceived biases, that they may not even be aware of themselves, are blinding certain folk to the actual truth of the matter. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Is this because.... on 19:13 - Mar 3 with 2389 views | GaryCooper |
| Is this because.... on 18:46 - Mar 1 by footers |
Or perhaps because it's the largest, most complicated Department of State, meaning someone of his experience would be invaluable in running it? |
Blimey, there is me thinking you would be glad to see the back of the man who presided over the Windrush scandal. What a strange man to back. | | | |
| Is this because.... on 19:18 - Mar 3 with 2380 views | footers |
| Is this because.... on 19:13 - Mar 3 by GaryCooper |
Blimey, there is me thinking you would be glad to see the back of the man who presided over the Windrush scandal. What a strange man to back. |
If he was to blame for the Windrush scandal then the government's inquiry would have made it untenable for him to stay on. As it happened, it didn't.
Why you're bending over backwards over this and Abbott is really odd.
This is the UK, we don't just sack civil servants because they have a different view. | |
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| Is this because.... on 11:53 - Mar 4 with 2302 views | HARRY10 |
"a very determined and strong woman"
Is beginning to look a bit hollow as more evidence of her behaviour emerfes.
And the above once again re-affirms the thought that some will simply trot out any old partisan nonsense irrespective of counter evidence.*
Little Timmy Robinson is not a thug, he is a fearless 'journalist' innit.
However the real question is why was she thought suitable for the office of Home Secretary ? How on earth did they imagine her past failings would not come to light ?
It is the case of where now does fault liie ? With the bull in the china shop, or those who put it there ?
* is that like counter terrorism  ? |  | | |
| Is this because.... on 14:30 - Mar 4 with 2258 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 11:53 - Mar 4 by HARRY10 |
"a very determined and strong woman"
Is beginning to look a bit hollow as more evidence of her behaviour emerfes.
And the above once again re-affirms the thought that some will simply trot out any old partisan nonsense irrespective of counter evidence.*
Little Timmy Robinson is not a thug, he is a fearless 'journalist' innit.
However the real question is why was she thought suitable for the office of Home Secretary ? How on earth did they imagine her past failings would not come to light ?
It is the case of where now does fault liie ? With the bull in the china shop, or those who put it there ?
* is that like counter terrorism ? |
Labour staffers driven to contemplating suicide due to bullying.
The Left: nothing to see here. Just politically motivated smears.
Priti Patel's staff driven to contemplating suicide due to bullying.
The Right: Nothing to see here. Just politically motivated smears.
And neither side can see their rank hypocrisy. |  |
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| Is this because.... on 14:34 - Mar 4 with 2258 views | HARRY10 |
| Is this because.... on 14:30 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Labour staffers driven to contemplating suicide due to bullying.
The Left: nothing to see here. Just politically motivated smears.
Priti Patel's staff driven to contemplating suicide due to bullying.
The Right: Nothing to see here. Just politically motivated smears.
And neither side can see their rank hypocrisy. |
one is part of the government.....who are accountable to us all
the same case that has the same person responsible
quite a huge difference
but well done for echoing my point about of how some will always try to defend those who they see as their betters [Post edited 4 Mar 2020 14:36]
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| Is this because.... on 14:38 - Mar 4 with 2241 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 14:34 - Mar 4 by HARRY10 |
one is part of the government.....who are accountable to us all
the same case that has the same person responsible
quite a huge difference
but well done for echoing my point about of how some will always try to defend those who they see as their betters [Post edited 4 Mar 2020 14:36]
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Whom am I defending you right wing nutter? | |
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| Is this because.... on 14:43 - Mar 4 with 2235 views | HARRY10 |
| Is this because.... on 14:38 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Whom am I defending you right wing nutter? |
right wing....... 
and there is no valid comparison between the two as we both know
so the question is why are trying to make out there is ? | | | |
| Is this because.... on 14:45 - Mar 4 with 2229 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is this because.... on 14:30 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Labour staffers driven to contemplating suicide due to bullying.
The Left: nothing to see here. Just politically motivated smears.
Priti Patel's staff driven to contemplating suicide due to bullying.
The Right: Nothing to see here. Just politically motivated smears.
And neither side can see their rank hypocrisy. |
Don't be silly. |  |
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| Is this because.... on 14:46 - Mar 4 with 2224 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Is this because.... on 07:58 - Mar 3 by GlasgowBlue |
I’m not comfortable with this view of attacking her status as the daughter of immigrants.
Priti Patel is a deeply unpleasant woman and she has no place in government imo
That is all that needed to be said. Bringing up her ethnicity and her parents status as refugees is at best patronising. It's like patting her on the head and saying that "nice refugee girl, you should be grateful all that our country has given you so you should reciprocate that goodwill to others".
Why can't she just be a horrible woman who has unpleasant views and says things which as deeply offensive? Otherwise you are saying that a person from her background can't be a nasty piece of work in her own right. She is having to overcompensate.
When that has been said about woman overcompensating in the boardroom it has rightly been pointed out as sexist.
She should be judged in the same way you would judge somebody from the right such as Iain Duncan Smith or John Redwood. Her ethnicity and her parents background are irrelevant. |
We're in agreement that it's not a race issue. It's a deeply unpleasant person issue. |  |
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| Is this because.... on 14:48 - Mar 4 with 2210 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 14:43 - Mar 4 by HARRY10 |
right wing.......
and there is no valid comparison between the two as we both know
so the question is why are trying to make out there is ? |
Sorry. I thought that conversing with you involved calling everyone a right wing nutter.
Well done for demonstrating your hypocrisy with regards to the labour staffers who contemplated suicide after being bullied and the civil servant who contemplated suicide after being bullied, because one of those cases involved your side. | |
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| Is this because.... on 14:49 - Mar 4 with 2201 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 14:46 - Mar 4 by Swansea_Blue |
We're in agreement that it's not a race issue. It's a deeply unpleasant person issue. |
So you agree that the immigration status of her parents, of which she had no control over, is irrelevant and therefore shouldn't be used to attack her? | |
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| Is this because.... on 14:59 - Mar 4 with 2168 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 14:45 - Mar 4 by Darth_Koont |
Don't be silly. |
You're one of them. You accused the staffers, one of whom contemplated suicide, of lying on this very board. [Post edited 4 Mar 2020 15:04]
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| Is this because.... on 15:02 - Mar 4 with 2160 views | HARRY10 |
| Is this because.... on 14:48 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Sorry. I thought that conversing with you involved calling everyone a right wing nutter.
Well done for demonstrating your hypocrisy with regards to the labour staffers who contemplated suicide after being bullied and the civil servant who contemplated suicide after being bullied, because one of those cases involved your side. |
Everyone ?
really
I think not, though unsurprisingly you seem to be a bit excited by it
and this matter has been raised by those (inc the media) who think that the government should be accountable to the electors - something that however much you bleat does not apply to a political party
so as said it is illuminating to see how desperate you are to distract from what is a matter of deep concern - and one that underpins my previous point that this woman has a history of such behaviour yet 'righties on here felt the need to start a thread that sought to blame the victim
whereas the only person at fault is the 'right wing nutter' Patel...........
........one you seem desperate to defend | | | |
| Is this because.... on 15:03 - Mar 4 with 2156 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 15:02 - Mar 4 by HARRY10 |
Everyone ?
really
I think not, though unsurprisingly you seem to be a bit excited by it
and this matter has been raised by those (inc the media) who think that the government should be accountable to the electors - something that however much you bleat does not apply to a political party
so as said it is illuminating to see how desperate you are to distract from what is a matter of deep concern - and one that underpins my previous point that this woman has a history of such behaviour yet 'righties on here felt the need to start a thread that sought to blame the victim
whereas the only person at fault is the 'right wing nutter' Patel...........
........one you seem desperate to defend |
Where have I defended Priti Patel dear boy? | |
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| Is this because.... on 15:08 - Mar 4 with 2146 views | HARRY10 |
| Is this because.... on 15:03 - Mar 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Where have I defended Priti Patel dear boy? |
you haven't, though you have desperately tried to by linking supposed problems within a political party with those of the government | | | |
| Is this because.... on 15:12 - Mar 4 with 2132 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this because.... on 15:08 - Mar 4 by HARRY10 |
you haven't, though you have desperately tried to by linking supposed problems within a political party with those of the government |
In this thread I have said that......
"She should resign whilst an investigation is carried out with regards to the bullying"
"she should never have been given another job in cabinet after she was caught having unauthorised meetings with members of a foreign government"
"is a deeply unpleasant woman and she has no place in government"
You'd have to be dome sort of halfwit to take from that that I have desperately tried to defend her.
What I have done is exposed the hypocrisy of both people on the right and people on the left . | |
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