| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO 16:32 - May 23 with 5754 views | m14_blue |
All trust in those managing our response to the pandemic, and any pretence at maintaining lockdown, sacrificed for Dominic Cummings’s job.
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 16:45 - May 23 with 5144 views | LankHenners |
A shameless undermining of their own rules to protect one man. Absolutely no shred of integrity or backbone between the lot of them, which was obvious before, but never shown so blatantly and openly.
It shows up the utter contempt they have for the public - as long as them and their mates are alright then fck everyone else and have a good old chuckle about it when they get called out.
And they continue to get away with it. |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 17:55 - May 23 with 5016 views | itfcjoe |
To be fair to her today, I think she held her ground quite well - and spelled out the rules whilst explicitly not saying what he did was ok.
That was as good as it was going to get |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:01 - May 23 with 4987 views | m14_blue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 17:55 - May 23 by itfcjoe |
To be fair to her today, I think she held her ground quite well - and spelled out the rules whilst explicitly not saying what he did was ok.
That was as good as it was going to get |
Couldn’t disagree more.
She gave carte blanche to anyone to do pretty much whatever they want.
Yes it was a difficult position for her but she’s in a very senior position and if they aren’t willing to stand up to the politicians then they shouldn’t be in that position. Or at the very least said she wasn’t willing to take part in that press conference.
How can anyone take any notice of anything any of them say now? | | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:03 - May 23 with 4976 views | Plums |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:01 - May 23 by m14_blue |
Couldn’t disagree more.
She gave carte blanche to anyone to do pretty much whatever they want.
Yes it was a difficult position for her but she’s in a very senior position and if they aren’t willing to stand up to the politicians then they shouldn’t be in that position. Or at the very least said she wasn’t willing to take part in that press conference.
How can anyone take any notice of anything any of them say now? |
Totally agree, their credibility is in shreds if they don’t react to this. |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:12 - May 23 with 4945 views | factual_blue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 17:55 - May 23 by itfcjoe |
To be fair to her today, I think she held her ground quite well - and spelled out the rules whilst explicitly not saying what he did was ok.
That was as good as it was going to get |
I thought so too. A model performance from a Civil Servant.
You were left to draw your own inferences from what she said.
shapps has lots of previous. 'According to shapps' he was left in a coma for a week after a car accident in the USA - so there's no independent evidence of that.
In 2012, Google blacklisted 19 of the Shapps's business websites for violating rules on copyright infringement related to the web scraping-based TrafficPayMaster software sold by them.Shapps's web marketing business's 20/20 Challenge publication also drew criticism. It cost $497 and promised customers earnings of $20,000 in 20 days. Upon purchase, the "toolkit" was revealed to be an ebook, advising the user to create their own toolkit and recruit 100 "Joint Venture Partners" to resell it for a share of the profits.
At least twice when standing in elections he used the name Grant V. Shapps, despite not having a middle name at all.
On 28 November 2015, Shapps stood down as minister of state due to allegations of bullying within the Conservative Party. It has been claimed that Shapps, in his previous role as party co-chairman, had ignored repeated allegations of bullying involving Mark Clarke, the then party youth organiser. This episode of alleged bullying led one of the victims to commit suicide.
And then there's the stuff about using pseudonyms to promote dodgy-sounding get rich quick schemes and the stuff about editing his own Wikipedia page to make it flattering.
I say 'flattering', I mean 'marginally less toxic'. |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:15 - May 23 with 4928 views | manchego |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 17:55 - May 23 by itfcjoe |
To be fair to her today, I think she held her ground quite well - and spelled out the rules whilst explicitly not saying what he did was ok.
That was as good as it was going to get |
Spelled out the rules ?
Really ?
I'm quite sure that the vast majority have no clue about what the rules are. Unless you are special in which case you can do what the hell you want.
Expect to see crowded beaches this half term. |  | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:32 - May 23 with 4855 views | EastTownBlue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 17:55 - May 23 by itfcjoe |
To be fair to her today, I think she held her ground quite well - and spelled out the rules whilst explicitly not saying what he did was ok.
That was as good as it was going to get |
The most telling part from Jenny Harries today was that anyone with the symptoms must self isololate unless "there is extreme risk to life". | | | |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:35 - May 23 with 4840 views | itfcjoe |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:32 - May 23 by EastTownBlue |
The most telling part from Jenny Harries today was that anyone with the symptoms must self isololate unless "there is extreme risk to life". |
Yep, that was the killer line that was instantly picked up by the news bods straight after.
That was as far as she could go | |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:36 - May 23 with 4825 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Ah, but they are scientists! |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:38 - May 23 with 4824 views | reusersfreekicks |
If he was so ill that he could not look after his child how did he drive 260 miles. It's disgraceful and he should go |  | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:43 - May 23 with 4790 views | SomethingBlue |
It's so, so sad that millions of hardworking people were duped into voting for this. The country is broken, quite possibly beyond repair. | |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:58 - May 23 with 4733 views | Shawsey |
Classic case of, Do as I say, not as I do. They need to lead from the front, not just do as they wish. Opens the door for the idiots to say, well they did it, so why can't I. Terrible. |  | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 19:28 - May 23 with 4666 views | We_Go_Again |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:38 - May 23 by reusersfreekicks |
If he was so ill that he could not look after his child how did he drive 260 miles. It's disgraceful and he should go |
A Downing Street spokesman said: “Owing to his wife being infected with suspected coronavirus, and the high likelihood that he would himself become unwell, it was essential for Dominic Cummings to ensure his young child could be properly cared for". |  | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 19:35 - May 23 with 4642 views | Swansea_Blue |
She's been awful throughout. Ever since she said that we're above WHO guidance I marked her down as another sycophant. |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 19:38 - May 23 with 4631 views | BarcaBlue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 19:28 - May 23 by We_Go_Again |
A Downing Street spokesman said: “Owing to his wife being infected with suspected coronavirus, and the high likelihood that he would himself become unwell, it was essential for Dominic Cummings to ensure his young child could be properly cared for". |
Sitting in a car for five hours that likelihood would be very high, not only for Cummings but his son, anyone they came in contact with on the journey and then in Durham. Indefensible. |  | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 20:27 - May 23 with 4548 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 19:28 - May 23 by We_Go_Again |
A Downing Street spokesman said: “Owing to his wife being infected with suspected coronavirus, and the high likelihood that he would himself become unwell, it was essential for Dominic Cummings to ensure his young child could be properly cared for". |
So he took his wife with him?
Why not get someone local to get his shopping for him instead of travelling 260 miles to collect it and taking them with him.
And then doing the journey again 2 weeks later. |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 20:33 - May 23 with 4535 views | Trequartista |
Will be interesting to see if the general public turn on the government rather than just people who don't like the government. Not a lot of people outside those who are interested in politics know or care about Dominic Cummings, so it's not a given. |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 07:42 - May 24 with 4373 views | jimmyvet |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 20:33 - May 23 by Trequartista |
Will be interesting to see if the general public turn on the government rather than just people who don't like the government. Not a lot of people outside those who are interested in politics know or care about Dominic Cummings, so it's not a given. |
Spot on...the outpourings and anger on here don’t reflect life. If Cummings has broken the rules he should resign or be sacked if he hasn’t move on.
Unfortunately about a dozen people on here are convinced any story will bring this govt down. They forget they have an 80 seat majority are 6 months in and dealing with a pandemic not seen for 100 years. Anyway they will enjoy spending their whole Sunday in their underpants posting on here and getting congratulations from their board supporters whilst the rest of us will enjoy BH Sunday. | | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 08:14 - May 24 with 4321 views | pointofblue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 07:42 - May 24 by jimmyvet |
Spot on...the outpourings and anger on here don’t reflect life. If Cummings has broken the rules he should resign or be sacked if he hasn’t move on.
Unfortunately about a dozen people on here are convinced any story will bring this govt down. They forget they have an 80 seat majority are 6 months in and dealing with a pandemic not seen for 100 years. Anyway they will enjoy spending their whole Sunday in their underpants posting on here and getting congratulations from their board supporters whilst the rest of us will enjoy BH Sunday. |
I agree. The country’s morals, view of fairness and approach to society have been increasingly warped; as long as the individual is fine for many then the rest do no not matter. Those in the North East may, quite understandably, retain a loathing for an individual who decided to drive to their part of the nation whilst potentially carrying a deadly untreatable virus but I think for the majority of the remainder of the country the attitude will be ‘get on with it’, just as it has been regarding Brexit. In fairness, this could just be down to tiredness towards politics and the political class in general but now is really not the time to accept every move and leave them free of scrutiny. | |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 08:21 - May 24 with 4308 views | m14_blue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 07:42 - May 24 by jimmyvet |
Spot on...the outpourings and anger on here don’t reflect life. If Cummings has broken the rules he should resign or be sacked if he hasn’t move on.
Unfortunately about a dozen people on here are convinced any story will bring this govt down. They forget they have an 80 seat majority are 6 months in and dealing with a pandemic not seen for 100 years. Anyway they will enjoy spending their whole Sunday in their underpants posting on here and getting congratulations from their board supporters whilst the rest of us will enjoy BH Sunday. |
You seem incredibly relaxed about this considering how absolutely fuming you were about someone’s elderly parents going for a walk by the river a little while back.
How come they are selfish idiots and yet you couldn’t care less about the man running the government travelling the length of the country whilst carrying the virus?
Is it because the people in the first example didn’t like Boris? Almost as if all that matters to you is what ‘team’ people are on, not what they do.
Although that would be incredibly hypocritical from someone so obsessed with accusing them left’ of playing politics.... | | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 08:25 - May 24 with 4293 views | Herbivore |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 18:43 - May 23 by SomethingBlue |
It's so, so sad that millions of hardworking people were duped into voting for this. The country is broken, quite possibly beyond repair. |
This feels like a potential turning point as well. If people accept the government's ongoing defence of Cummings and now the cries of 'fake news' then we are well and truly screwed.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” |  |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 09:11 - May 24 with 4244 views | ElephantintheRoom |
With all due respect we never went into a lockdown - it was always a pretend lockdown - hence the awful death tolls which continues to this day.
People have always been free to do what they want, whenever they want, public transport continued to run and planes flew in 18 million people with no checks whatsoever.
IF everyone in contact with the disease...ie NHS workers, carers etc had been isolated, IF transport had been stopped... IF people had been prepared to stay at home and not wander off to shops whenever they felt like it and IF people had been forced not to work... then that might have been a lockdown.... especially if enforced two to three weeks earlier than it was. | |
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| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 09:14 - May 24 with 4237 views | jimmyvet |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 08:21 - May 24 by m14_blue |
You seem incredibly relaxed about this considering how absolutely fuming you were about someone’s elderly parents going for a walk by the river a little while back.
How come they are selfish idiots and yet you couldn’t care less about the man running the government travelling the length of the country whilst carrying the virus?
Is it because the people in the first example didn’t like Boris? Almost as if all that matters to you is what ‘team’ people are on, not what they do.
Although that would be incredibly hypocritical from someone so obsessed with accusing them left’ of playing politics.... |
As I have said if he has broken the rules he should be sacked and shamed publicly, if he hasn’t move on. We still don’t know the full facts and if he is guilty he should be ashamed and never hold a position in Govt again. However if he has broken no rules, sought and given guidance on the actions he has taken then you don’t condemn an innocent person just because you despise his political views. | | | |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 09:19 - May 24 with 4222 views | m14_blue |
| Disgraceful from the Deputy CMO on 09:14 - May 24 by jimmyvet |
As I have said if he has broken the rules he should be sacked and shamed publicly, if he hasn’t move on. We still don’t know the full facts and if he is guilty he should be ashamed and never hold a position in Govt again. However if he has broken no rules, sought and given guidance on the actions he has taken then you don’t condemn an innocent person just because you despise his political views. |
Fair enough.
He’s obviously broken the rules though, that couldn’t be clearer. | | | |
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