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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. 19:59 - Sep 23 with 24843 viewshampstead_blue

This poor chap lost everything because of woke nutcases.

He raised genuine concerns about BLM and the woke and cancel culture community swarmed all over him.

Support BLM? Dare anyone criticize the hard left and woke nutters

https://thecritic.co.uk/i-was-fired-for-criticising-blm/

https://www.change.org/p/the-board-of-mancunian-way-petition-to-remove-nick-buck

https://www.change.org/p/silent-majority-reinstate-nick-buckley-as-ceo-of-mancun

Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me. Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing. Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial. Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid. Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:54 - Sep 23 with 4130 viewsClapham_Junction

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:43 - Sep 23 by giant_stow

Looks like it's reproduced in full on the petition :

https://www.change.org/p/the-board-of-mancunian-way-petition-to-remove-nick-buck

On a quick read I can't see anything that racist, but could be missing it I spose.


He's dismissing BLM protests in the UK as "outrage at the death of a career criminal", dismisses taking the knee, and claims protesters are "lunatics".

It's incredibly insensitive and I could see why people would be offended.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:57 - Sep 23 with 4128 viewsMullet

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:52 - Sep 23 by giant_stow

In fairness and assuming the facts are correct, plus allowing for sympathetic writing, this link suggests he's done some good in his time: https://thecritic.co.uk/charity-boss-fired-after-criticising-black-lives-matter/

'Buckley decided to continue the work he’d done for the council [having been made redundant] by helping young people escape gang culture. He ploughed his redundancy money into the charity and for the first two years worked for free.'

Edit: you're right that he's not short on ego and self congratulation, but then again he does have to spell out his credentials in his own defence.
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I'm not suggesting he's a liar. I'm suggesting he's bitter and has a chip on his shoulder because these "black Marxists" aren't indulging his messiah complex and a lot of people told hm he was being a knob.

He sounds incredibly Partridge there.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:01 - Sep 23 with 4111 viewsSwansea_Blue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:43 - Sep 23 by giant_stow

Looks like it's reproduced in full on the petition :

https://www.change.org/p/the-board-of-mancunian-way-petition-to-remove-nick-buck

On a quick read I can't see anything that racist, but could be missing it I spose.


"Do you know who BLACKLIVESMATTER are? Do you know what this self prescribed political movement wants? According to their website they want to end white supremacy, disrupt the western prescribed nuclear family and dismantle the patriarchal practice. These are fancy words, what do they mean? They are exactly what post modern, neo-marxist use when they call for the destruction of Western Democracy and our way of life."

Looks like the signature of a racist to me. Who wouldn't want to end white supremacy?

As for patriarchal practice, it's obviously not what he thinks it is. It's about making it so the women don't have to do all the work in some nations/communities: they do use this phrase once on their website:

'BLACK VILLAGES
We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.'

So quite the opposite of disrupting families; they want to see them brought closer together.

And that brings us to nuclear families. Apparently they have said in the past they wish to 'disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families'. They want to see an increase in the extended family structure, something that we in the UK have been saying is missing for some time. We've lost that- we move away from home chasing jobs, leaving families behind and abandoning some areas where there are few opportunities for local people, exacerbating rural deprivation especially.

Hang BLM for these scandalous views! This bloke is either a feckwit or a racist.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:02 - Sep 23 with 4110 viewsgiant_stow

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:54 - Sep 23 by Clapham_Junction

He's dismissing BLM protests in the UK as "outrage at the death of a career criminal", dismisses taking the knee, and claims protesters are "lunatics".

It's incredibly insensitive and I could see why people would be offended.


Fair enough, that's all wrong, offensive and generalises horribly, but a sacking offense? He seems to be coming at things from quite a right-wing view of social welfare, that definitely jars, but racist? Not surr

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:09 - Sep 23 with 4083 viewsgiant_stow

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:01 - Sep 23 by Swansea_Blue

"Do you know who BLACKLIVESMATTER are? Do you know what this self prescribed political movement wants? According to their website they want to end white supremacy, disrupt the western prescribed nuclear family and dismantle the patriarchal practice. These are fancy words, what do they mean? They are exactly what post modern, neo-marxist use when they call for the destruction of Western Democracy and our way of life."

Looks like the signature of a racist to me. Who wouldn't want to end white supremacy?

As for patriarchal practice, it's obviously not what he thinks it is. It's about making it so the women don't have to do all the work in some nations/communities: they do use this phrase once on their website:

'BLACK VILLAGES
We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.'

So quite the opposite of disrupting families; they want to see them brought closer together.

And that brings us to nuclear families. Apparently they have said in the past they wish to 'disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families'. They want to see an increase in the extended family structure, something that we in the UK have been saying is missing for some time. We've lost that- we move away from home chasing jobs, leaving families behind and abandoning some areas where there are few opportunities for local people, exacerbating rural deprivation especially.

Hang BLM for these scandalous views! This bloke is either a feckwit or a racist.


Fair dos mr - some of that is over the line but isn't the gist of his critique of bml about politics, methods and the bit about Dr King?

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:12 - Sep 23 with 4077 viewsHerbivore

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:02 - Sep 23 by giant_stow

Fair enough, that's all wrong, offensive and generalises horribly, but a sacking offense? He seems to be coming at things from quite a right-wing view of social welfare, that definitely jars, but racist? Not surr


He was reinstated. Clearly initially the charity felt his remarks went too far - and there's a case for that - but they gave him his post back. If you're in a position of authority and responsibility and you publicly post ignorant bile you should anticipate there might be some consequences to that. Most employers probably don't take kindly to people blithely dismissing that racism is a problem and trying to discredit an anti-racist protest movement, especially in the charity sector.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:14 - Sep 23 with 4076 viewsjeera

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:09 - Sep 23 by giant_stow

Fair dos mr - some of that is over the line but isn't the gist of his critique of bml about politics, methods and the bit about Dr King?


He begins by stating that it's 'obvious' that Black lives matter, but then goes immediately into a rant about how other things are more important.

As though anyone has so much as once suggested that 'other matters' are not important [too!].

Which bring it back to the crux doesn't it?

That he is so willing to actually be as dismissive as possible whilst making a token nod.

He, and anyone actually taking his tripe remotely seriously, couldn't be missing the point any more if they tried.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:28 - Sep 23 with 4058 viewsPremierBlue

Just be vigilante. There are no doubt forces in this world that try to exploit the good that is in us. Do not join the iron helmet brigade or cover up your eyes with the face mask. We need to keep an open mind and seek the Truth and not bend over to some convenient narrative pushed by controlled media.

Actually, I think we can all agree to the above. Part of the challenge these days is the bundling of things, and the utilization and weaponizing of something obvious and good to destabilize humanity. It is exactly here that we need to develop and use our discernment.

I don't have the answers, but I know that the truth shall set us free.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:35 - Sep 23 with 4046 viewsSwailsey

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:28 - Sep 23 by PremierBlue

Just be vigilante. There are no doubt forces in this world that try to exploit the good that is in us. Do not join the iron helmet brigade or cover up your eyes with the face mask. We need to keep an open mind and seek the Truth and not bend over to some convenient narrative pushed by controlled media.

Actually, I think we can all agree to the above. Part of the challenge these days is the bundling of things, and the utilization and weaponizing of something obvious and good to destabilize humanity. It is exactly here that we need to develop and use our discernment.

I don't have the answers, but I know that the truth shall set us free.


Sorry fella, but yet again, that was a whole load of nothing.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:48 - Sep 23 with 4010 viewsPremierBlue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:35 - Sep 23 by Swailsey

Sorry fella, but yet again, that was a whole load of nothing.


Are you seeing things differently?
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:48 - Sep 23 with 4010 viewsjeera

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:35 - Sep 23 by Swailsey

Sorry fella, but yet again, that was a whole load of nothing.


https://www.inc.com/joshua-spodek/how-big-words-jargon-make-you-look-its-not-sma

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/use-simple-language-to-sound-smarter-2015-9

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:51 - Sep 23 with 4005 viewsm14_blue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:28 - Sep 23 by PremierBlue

Just be vigilante. There are no doubt forces in this world that try to exploit the good that is in us. Do not join the iron helmet brigade or cover up your eyes with the face mask. We need to keep an open mind and seek the Truth and not bend over to some convenient narrative pushed by controlled media.

Actually, I think we can all agree to the above. Part of the challenge these days is the bundling of things, and the utilization and weaponizing of something obvious and good to destabilize humanity. It is exactly here that we need to develop and use our discernment.

I don't have the answers, but I know that the truth shall set us free.


If your face mask is covering your eyes then you’re not wearing it right mate.

Maybe you should have moved it down a few inches before typing out that post?
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:59 - Sep 23 with 3996 viewsPremierBlue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:51 - Sep 23 by m14_blue

If your face mask is covering your eyes then you’re not wearing it right mate.

Maybe you should have moved it down a few inches before typing out that post?


Are you seeing things differently?
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:00 - Sep 23 with 3995 viewsHerbivore

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:59 - Sep 23 by PremierBlue

Are you seeing things differently?


Yeah, he's not wearing a face mask over his eyes.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:04 - Sep 23 with 3986 viewsm14_blue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:59 - Sep 23 by PremierBlue

Are you seeing things differently?


I can’t answer that as I find your posts pretty confusing tbh.

Could you just spell out for the hard of thinking exactly what you mean? Do you not think we should be wearing masks?
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:08 - Sep 23 with 3976 viewsmrshallisfit

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 20:25 - Sep 23 by hampstead_blue

What concerns you about someone highlighting such awful and vile behaviour?

Are you in agreement with those who harassed and hounded this chap?


Because you never highlight vile and amoral behaviour on the other side of the spectrum. Funny that.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:19 - Sep 23 with 3957 viewseireblue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:14 - Sep 23 by jeera

He begins by stating that it's 'obvious' that Black lives matter, but then goes immediately into a rant about how other things are more important.

As though anyone has so much as once suggested that 'other matters' are not important [too!].

Which bring it back to the crux doesn't it?

That he is so willing to actually be as dismissive as possible whilst making a token nod.

He, and anyone actually taking his tripe remotely seriously, couldn't be missing the point any more if they tried.


I would expect that someone that works for that sort of charity, shouldn’t really describe someone that had done charity work, had turned their life around, after serving time, and had recently become unemployed, as a career criminal.

Seems to imply bias, or at least that have skipped over some facts in order to make a political point.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:19 - Sep 23 with 3957 viewsStokieBlue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 21:28 - Sep 23 by PremierBlue

Just be vigilante. There are no doubt forces in this world that try to exploit the good that is in us. Do not join the iron helmet brigade or cover up your eyes with the face mask. We need to keep an open mind and seek the Truth and not bend over to some convenient narrative pushed by controlled media.

Actually, I think we can all agree to the above. Part of the challenge these days is the bundling of things, and the utilization and weaponizing of something obvious and good to destabilize humanity. It is exactly here that we need to develop and use our discernment.

I don't have the answers, but I know that the truth shall set us free.


That post looks like you joined together a load of fortunes from cookies to see if you could form something that made sense.

Unfortunately you've failed.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:21 - Sep 23 with 3957 viewsBrixtonBlue

Do you know what woke actually means? It means being awake to modern issues (particularly injustice). There's nothing "nutcases" about it. It's actually what normal, right-minded people are all about.

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:22 - Sep 23 with 3950 viewseireblue

By the way, Hampstead has repeatedly stated he would like to “cancel” religion.

Surely that makes him a communist?

Sort of very hard left.
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:40 - Sep 23 with 3926 viewsPremierBlue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:19 - Sep 23 by StokieBlue

That post looks like you joined together a load of fortunes from cookies to see if you could form something that made sense.

Unfortunately you've failed.

SB


lovely humor, but sad if we can't communicate.

Maybe if you let me know what sentence you don't understand or don't agree with?
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:43 - Sep 23 with 3922 viewsPremierBlue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:04 - Sep 23 by m14_blue

I can’t answer that as I find your posts pretty confusing tbh.

Could you just spell out for the hard of thinking exactly what you mean? Do you not think we should be wearing masks?


Sorry about that, I am not a native speaker, just trying to communicate.

Re your question, I think it is possible to wear a face mask at the proper time and still be aware of what is going on.

Maybe if you break it down by sentence and let me know what parts you don't understand or agree with?
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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:56 - Sep 23 with 3905 viewsRyorry

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:43 - Sep 23 by PremierBlue

Sorry about that, I am not a native speaker, just trying to communicate.

Re your question, I think it is possible to wear a face mask at the proper time and still be aware of what is going on.

Maybe if you break it down by sentence and let me know what parts you don't understand or agree with?


Well apart from anything else, please check how to spell 'vigilant' (an adjective meaning "keeping careful watch").

'Vigilante' (a noun) means something completely different - "a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority" - something that could land you in a heap of trouble.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:58 - Sep 23 with 3901 viewsmonytowbray

And to think I lost an hour and a bit of my life watching the new Bill & Ted film (it’s sh1t BTW as you’d guess) when I could have been witnessing this car crash of a thread.

I don’t even know where to start in replying, but I think most sane people in this thread have covered most the points anyway.

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Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 23:05 - Sep 23 with 3888 viewsEatonBlue

Why the woke movement and cancel culture is so dangerous. on 22:21 - Sep 23 by BrixtonBlue

Do you know what woke actually means? It means being awake to modern issues (particularly injustice). There's nothing "nutcases" about it. It's actually what normal, right-minded people are all about.


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