| This Free School Meals debate 18:53 - Oct 21 with 22394 views | tractordownsouth |
I've just seen the clips from Twitter as I don't have a licence to watch on Iplayer but bloody hell, these heartless individuals... They're all preaching personal responsibility, while voting for a policy that will ensure whether or not kids eat is determined by their parents income, which they have no control over.
First we have Brendan Clarke Smith accusing those wanting to feed kids of "virtue signalling." He's the same bloke who was caught denying the scale of food banks during his election hustings.
And Kieran Mullen, claiming that it's not the state's job to feed kids.
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| This Free School Meals debate on 21:00 - Oct 21 with 1596 views | NewcyBlue |
Well that’s one way to reduce your job responsibility. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 21:50 - Oct 21 with 1557 views | SpruceMoose |
Conservatives: We need to stop spending money on foreign aid and put British people first!
Also Conservatives: No! Not those particular hungry British people! |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 22:01 - Oct 21 with 1543 views | m14_blue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 21:50 - Oct 21 by SpruceMoose |
Conservatives: We need to stop spending money on foreign aid and put British people first!
Also Conservatives: No! Not those particular hungry British people! |
“All Lives Matter!“
“There’s no such thing as white privilege, what about all the poor white working class children, how come BLM don’t care about them?”
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| This Free School Meals debate on 22:02 - Oct 21 with 1539 views | The_Major |
Don't give me that tripe about Johnson is doing his best in the circumstances, or trot out the tired cliches about people on benefits.
We're in the middle of an unprecedented situation. By the very nature of the situation, and what is needed to contain it, some people suddenly find themselves with a greatly reduced funding position.
And although we can find £12 BILLION to pass to connected people to set up a track and trace system that barely tracks and only occasionally traces, we can't find the necessary funds to give SOME children ONE meal for FIVE days.
And if anyone is feeling smart and asking if Rashford has given any money, how do you know he hasn't?
Contemptible. What an absolute sewer this country has become. Shame on them. Shame on us. |  | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:23 - Oct 21 with 1522 views | Swansea_Blue |
Scotland, Wales and (to a lesser extent) Northern Ireland have all pledged to provide free school meals through the winter holidays, so there is still some good in some of our leaders. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 22:36 - Oct 21 with 1516 views | The_Major |
To be fair, five Conservative MPs did vote for it, so they should be applauded for going against the party line. | | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:52 - Oct 21 with 1507 views | Swansea_Blue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 19:41 - Oct 21 by jeera |
Tell you what though mate.
By the time this lot have finished with it, the UK will no longer be a 'wealthy' country.
They're costing us a fortune on all the wrong things. |
Exhibit A. The cost of extending free school meals in England through half term and Christmas to ensure the most vulnerable kids don't have to go to bed hungry, AND supporting Mancunians unable to work due to the government's imposed lockdown, are less combined than they gave to a private contractor to deliver PPE masks that were not up to a high enough standard to be used by the NHS. £120 million to make a difference to hundreds of thousands of lives versus £150 m to an offshore tax haven-based entity to deliver nothing.
Some backgorund on Ayanda Capital here - https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/07/banana-republic-corruption/comme Needless to say, a currency trading organisation specialising in "financial engineering", including tax avoidance is not the the obvious place to buy PPE. Although one of Ayanda's senior board advisors does also happen to be an adviser to Liz Truss. What a coincidence, eh? | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 22:53 - Oct 21 with 1505 views | Durovigutum |
I'd suggest this has/will lose them the next election. |  | | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:06 - Oct 21 with 1495 views | HARRY10 |
I wonder how many in the 'red wall' who changed their vote to Tory in 2019 have children who are tbeeficiaries of -
"Taxpayers spent £246m in the past three years subsidising the private education of forces children at elite schools such as Eton, Harrow and Gordonstoun. Roughly 60% of the children benefiting from the scheme have a parent who holds senior officer rank.
Through their charitable status, private schools enjoy significant tax breaks, including concessions with VAT and business rates, and relief from corporation tax if they make a surplus. One analysis of local authority business rates records published last year estimated that private schools would receive tax rebates totalling £522m over the next five years as a result of their status."
a case of the deserving rich v the undeserving poor | | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:19 - Oct 21 with 1488 views | tractordownsouth |
| This Free School Meals debate on 21:50 - Oct 21 by SpruceMoose |
Conservatives: We need to stop spending money on foreign aid and put British people first!
Also Conservatives: No! Not those particular hungry British people! |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:21 - Oct 21 with 1491 views | The_Major |
I have seen it calculated that providing the meals would cost £20m.
A reminder that £48.3m was spent bailing out Wetherspoons | | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:31 - Oct 21 with 1468 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| This Free School Meals debate on 19:29 - Oct 21 by tractordownsouth |
322 of them have
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Shameful, but entirely predictable sadly |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:32 - Oct 21 with 1467 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:53 - Oct 21 by Durovigutum |
I'd suggest this has/will lose them the next election. |
It will be forgotten by then. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:34 - Oct 21 with 1455 views | tractordownsouth |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:21 - Oct 21 by The_Major |
I have seen it calculated that providing the meals would cost £20m.
A reminder that £48.3m was spent bailing out Wetherspoons |
And £45m taken off Richard Desmond's tax bill because he donated to the Tories. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 08:07 - Oct 22 with 1361 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 19:38 - Oct 21 by SpruceMoose |
Think I can hear Paz applauding his government somewhere off in the distance. Wonder if he will pop along to defend this?
It's so sad that a wealthy country such as the UK is unwilling to sprinkle a few crumbs for the poorest in our society.
F**k the Conservative party, F**k any one who voted for them and f**k anyone who continues to support them. You've made us a joke of a country. |
For the record I think it’s the right decision for the reasons set out in the summer. I’m not going to go into it anything further because we’ve done this and the board doesn’t need to see it all repeated. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 08:32 - Oct 22 with 1339 views | MattinLondon |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:07 - Oct 22 by 26_Paz |
For the record I think it’s the right decision for the reasons set out in the summer. I’m not going to go into it anything further because we’ve done this and the board doesn’t need to see it all repeated. |
Can I politely ask you to indulge me and repeat what the reasons were in the summer please? |  | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:44 - Oct 22 with 1323 views | NewcyBlue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:07 - Oct 22 by 26_Paz |
For the record I think it’s the right decision for the reasons set out in the summer. I’m not going to go into it anything further because we’ve done this and the board doesn’t need to see it all repeated. |
You don’t think that the state should assume responsibility for the poorest and those in need? | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 08:55 - Oct 22 with 1299 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:32 - Oct 22 by MattinLondon |
Can I politely ask you to indulge me and repeat what the reasons were in the summer please? |
Certainly. To briefly summarise. I believe provision is made elsewhere via universal credit, furlough payments and other such benefits. My main point was that the government has put in place measures to deal with financial hardship caused by the pandemic, therefore I don’t see why now is any different to any other school holiday. In ‘normal’ times school meals are not provided during school holidays, given provision is made elsewhere to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I don’t see why now is any different. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 08:56 - Oct 22 with 1296 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:44 - Oct 22 by NewcyBlue |
You don’t think that the state should assume responsibility for the poorest and those in need? |
Absolutely I do Newcy, as I say in the above response given the billions spent during to pandemic via other means to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I think that has already been done without providing free school meals outside of school time | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 08:59 - Oct 22 with 1292 views | hype313 |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:55 - Oct 22 by 26_Paz |
Certainly. To briefly summarise. I believe provision is made elsewhere via universal credit, furlough payments and other such benefits. My main point was that the government has put in place measures to deal with financial hardship caused by the pandemic, therefore I don’t see why now is any different to any other school holiday. In ‘normal’ times school meals are not provided during school holidays, given provision is made elsewhere to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I don’t see why now is any different. |
"In ‘normal’ times school meals are not provided during school holidays, given provision is made elsewhere to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I don’t see why now is any different."
We're not in normal times you berk, unemployment has skyrocketed unless you have been living under a rock. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:03 - Oct 22 with 1285 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:59 - Oct 22 by hype313 |
"In ‘normal’ times school meals are not provided during school holidays, given provision is made elsewhere to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I don’t see why now is any different."
We're not in normal times you berk, unemployment has skyrocketed unless you have been living under a rock. |
As I said, you berk, universal credit payments have skyrocketed in line with that. You’ve just completely ignored the fact that I’ve said provision is made elsewhere. I’m not saying provision shouldn’t be made, I’m saying it shouldn’t be made twice. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:04 - Oct 22 with 1280 views | NewcyBlue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:56 - Oct 22 by 26_Paz |
Absolutely I do Newcy, as I say in the above response given the billions spent during to pandemic via other means to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I think that has already been done without providing free school meals outside of school time |
I have a primary school at the bottom of my road. I’m not living in an affluent area, so it’s safe to say that some of those kids who I see getting dropped off will be those in need of the free school meals.
We all know people who are losing jobs because of the pandemic, what do their kids do? Go hungry?
We live in a society where money is king. Those with money are able to absorb the effects of the pandemic. Why should we be able to do this, and not help out the people who need it most? | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:05 - Oct 22 with 1276 views | itfcjoe |
| This Free School Meals debate on 08:59 - Oct 22 by hype313 |
"In ‘normal’ times school meals are not provided during school holidays, given provision is made elsewhere to cushion the financial blow of the pandemic I don’t see why now is any different."
We're not in normal times you berk, unemployment has skyrocketed unless you have been living under a rock. |
And a lot of those in employment are on 66%-80% of their usual salary - I'm sure they can't pay the same percentage of their bills. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:06 - Oct 22 with 1273 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 09:04 - Oct 22 by NewcyBlue |
I have a primary school at the bottom of my road. I’m not living in an affluent area, so it’s safe to say that some of those kids who I see getting dropped off will be those in need of the free school meals.
We all know people who are losing jobs because of the pandemic, what do their kids do? Go hungry?
We live in a society where money is king. Those with money are able to absorb the effects of the pandemic. Why should we be able to do this, and not help out the people who need it most? |
With respect Newcy, I think you’re missing my point. I’m not saying we shouldn’t, I’m saying we already have. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:11 - Oct 22 with 1259 views | hype313 |
| This Free School Meals debate on 09:06 - Oct 22 by 26_Paz |
With respect Newcy, I think you’re missing my point. I’m not saying we shouldn’t, I’m saying we already have. |
Paz, it's a minute amount in the grand scheme of things, I really can't understand why they are digging their heels in over something so serious, but then are we surprised they are called the nasty party. | |
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