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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:19 - Dec 7 with 2928 viewsDubtractor

Absolute scumbag of an mp.

Not just for this, obviously. Just a turd and I'm appalled that he is my mp.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:29 - Dec 7 with 2866 viewsHerbivore

The Tories bang on about divisiveness when it comes to upsetting racists, but they seem quite content to label anyone that supports anti-racism as a Marxist. Personally I'm quite happy to be labelled a Marxist, but I appreciate that to a lot of people it has negative connotations which is the aim of it being used to describe BLM supporters.

Essentially this boils down to what I've said repeatedly before. Why wouldn't we expect groups who are committed to anti-racism to have some political flavour? Ending racism isn't just about stopping people using the N word at a football match, it's about trying to address fundamental inequalities that exist within and are perpetuated by free market capitalism. You don't end racism by carrying on in exactly the same way. It you don't want anything at all to change about a society that perpetuates racism then you aren't anti-racist. Of course whether you want to go as far as abolishing capitalism is a different matter, but nothing changes without change and it seems that Tory MPs want to say they are against racism but aren't prepared to lift a finger to end it.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:45 - Dec 7 with 2820 viewstractordownsouth

He always seems to spend more time defending racists than those who suffer racist abuse - and that’s before we even get into the antisemitism which would have got him kicked out of the Tory Party under any other leader.

Roll on 2024 when Hunt can go and get a job at Guido Fawkes and Ipswich can get an adult as MP again.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:48 - Dec 7 with 2792 viewsHerbivore

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:45 - Dec 7 by tractordownsouth

He always seems to spend more time defending racists than those who suffer racist abuse - and that’s before we even get into the antisemitism which would have got him kicked out of the Tory Party under any other leader.

Roll on 2024 when Hunt can go and get a job at Guido Fawkes and Ipswich can get an adult as MP again.


The current Tory party appear to have chosen to align themselves much more closely with the racists than those who are anti-racist. Politically they have to say they are against discrimination, but this is always couched in defending people's right to act like racists.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:52 - Dec 7 with 2778 viewstractordownsouth

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:48 - Dec 7 by Herbivore

The current Tory party appear to have chosen to align themselves much more closely with the racists than those who are anti-racist. Politically they have to say they are against discrimination, but this is always couched in defending people's right to act like racists.


Indeed, you just have to look at the 2019 intake. It contains people like Hunt, Lee Anderson and Anthony Browne (who said that immigrants were responsible for bringing HIV to Britain.) Ben Bradley was 2017 intake but he seems to have been emboldened by the new direction the party is taking itself in.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:24 - Dec 7 with 2695 viewsartsbossbeard

Shame, Tom's getting a fair bit of stick for this.

Gutted for him. The divisive, parachuted in, fox hunt supporting, daddy's money man child.

Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:48 - Dec 7 with 2610 viewsBlueBadger

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:48 - Dec 7 by Herbivore

The current Tory party appear to have chosen to align themselves much more closely with the racists than those who are anti-racist. Politically they have to say they are against discrimination, but this is always couched in defending people's right to act like racists.


ultimately, this is why asking for some basic human decency towards people who are not white, straight or well-off is seen as 'political'. It's because they've spent the past 4 years, in particular, cosying up to some pretty vile people.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:54 - Dec 7 with 2591 viewsStokieBlue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:48 - Dec 7 by Herbivore

The current Tory party appear to have chosen to align themselves much more closely with the racists than those who are anti-racist. Politically they have to say they are against discrimination, but this is always couched in defending people's right to act like racists.


It's a vote winner for them.

Unfortunately there are many people (a lot of them older but not ancient) who just don't get BLM as a protest. They will immediately cite the difficulties for poor white kids as an equivalence without understanding the other issues around institutional bias.

I don't really blame them, it's a lack of education on the subject, but it does align with the Tory view even when some of those people aren't Tory voters so that is a reason why we are where we are in the polls and the MP breakdown.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:59 - Dec 7 with 2541 viewsManchesterblue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:19 - Dec 7 by Dubtractor

Absolute scumbag of an mp.

Not just for this, obviously. Just a turd and I'm appalled that he is my mp.


Because Sandy Martin was great

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:00 - Dec 7 with 2524 viewsartsbossbeard

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:59 - Dec 7 by Manchesterblue

Because Sandy Martin was great


The whataboutery is strong in this one.

Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:06 - Dec 7 with 2482 viewsGunnsAirkick

How on earth did this guy get in? He is utterly appalling, I really hope the people of Ipswich see sense and give this pr!ck the heave ho.

In recent times Sandy Martin seemed like a decent guy (as did Ben Gummer, I say that as a member of the Labour Party). It is so sad seeing this prat as Ipswich's MP, Sandy was bang on with this, the Conservative Party is turning into UKIP with few moderates left in it:

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:06 - Dec 7 with 2472 viewsBlueBadger

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:59 - Dec 7 by Manchesterblue

Because Sandy Martin was great


I don't recall him him being an openly racist thicko, if that helps.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:08 - Dec 7 with 2472 viewsSomethingBlue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:59 - Dec 7 by Manchesterblue

Because Sandy Martin was great


Just checking my notes for when Sandy Martin threw around antisemitic tropes in the local media and openly enabled racists.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:13 - Dec 7 with 2443 viewsManchesterblue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:06 - Dec 7 by BlueBadger

I don't recall him him being an openly racist thicko, if that helps.


Just checking my notes for when Sandy actually did anything for the people of Ipswich, rather than spout s**t all over Twitter just like the current incumbent, all MP's need stringing up IMO

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:15 - Dec 7 with 2425 viewsbracknell_blue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 08:29 - Dec 7 by Herbivore

The Tories bang on about divisiveness when it comes to upsetting racists, but they seem quite content to label anyone that supports anti-racism as a Marxist. Personally I'm quite happy to be labelled a Marxist, but I appreciate that to a lot of people it has negative connotations which is the aim of it being used to describe BLM supporters.

Essentially this boils down to what I've said repeatedly before. Why wouldn't we expect groups who are committed to anti-racism to have some political flavour? Ending racism isn't just about stopping people using the N word at a football match, it's about trying to address fundamental inequalities that exist within and are perpetuated by free market capitalism. You don't end racism by carrying on in exactly the same way. It you don't want anything at all to change about a society that perpetuates racism then you aren't anti-racist. Of course whether you want to go as far as abolishing capitalism is a different matter, but nothing changes without change and it seems that Tory MPs want to say they are against racism but aren't prepared to lift a finger to end it.


Yes, another Tory outing himself as a racist.

But, kit has always been like this. In the early 80s I queued to sign the petition to free Nelson Mandela at South Africa House inCentral London. About 10 years later, a new role for me (I was a civil servant from 78 to 98) meant I needed a very high level of vetting to get involved in secret meetings on behalf of HMG (the group I attended didn't officially exist!). Anyway, I was tol MI5 had a file on me, as they did with everybody who signed the Mandela petition, so by wanting to end apartheid (the epitome of anti-racism) the Thatcher Government deemed us enemies of the state and of interest to MI5. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:16 - Dec 7 with 2420 viewsfooters

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:13 - Dec 7 by Manchesterblue

Just checking my notes for when Sandy actually did anything for the people of Ipswich, rather than spout s**t all over Twitter just like the current incumbent, all MP's need stringing up IMO


"They're all as bad as each other."

Only that's not true, is it?

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:17 - Dec 7 with 2396 viewsManchesterblue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:16 - Dec 7 by footers

"They're all as bad as each other."

Only that's not true, is it?


Oh dear

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:23 - Dec 7 with 2359 viewsBlueBadger

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:13 - Dec 7 by Manchesterblue

Just checking my notes for when Sandy actually did anything for the people of Ipswich, rather than spout s**t all over Twitter just like the current incumbent, all MP's need stringing up IMO


Can you link me one example of Sandy Martin standing up for racists on Twitter or voting against providing food for deprived children?

Just one.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:23 - Dec 7 with 2355 viewsBlueBadger

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:00 - Dec 7 by artsbossbeard

The whataboutery is strong in this one.


He's clearly the 'duty' one today. The weekend one exceeded his remit and got himself banned.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:30 - Dec 7 with 2311 viewsBlueBadger

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:16 - Dec 7 by footers

"They're all as bad as each other."

Only that's not true, is it?


It's an interesting equivalence isn't it, suggesting that an MP who openly sides with racists is as 'bad' as one who didn't.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:47 - Dec 7 with 2240 viewsTieDyedIn95

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 09:24 - Dec 7 by artsbossbeard

Shame, Tom's getting a fair bit of stick for this.

Gutted for him. The divisive, parachuted in, fox hunt supporting, daddy's money man child.


You could call a recall election in Ipswich if you really wanted him out. He's not my MP but he's at least active in Ipswich, my Tory MP is Nigerian but hilariously also anti-BLM! She lives in Wimbledon and spends no time up here with the peasants... Invisible to say the least. Classic wage claimer MP.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 11:01 - Dec 7 with 2187 viewsHerbivore

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:30 - Dec 7 by BlueBadger

It's an interesting equivalence isn't it, suggesting that an MP who openly sides with racists is as 'bad' as one who didn't.


I actually think this is one of the most dangerous aspects of Trumpian and current UK politics. It almost feels like they are deliberately trying to erode trust in politics because it enables this kind of equivalence. If all trust in politics is eroded then what does it matter if you vote for the self interested racist? The socially conscious anti-racist is just as bad after all, none of them are to be trusted. This erosion of trust ultimately only benefits the unscrupulous manipulators and it is very worrying to see people not only parrot it but genuinely believe it.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 11:05 - Dec 7 with 2162 viewsfactual_blue

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 10:17 - Dec 7 by Manchesterblue

Oh dear


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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 11:06 - Dec 7 with 2159 viewsfooters

Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 11:05 - Dec 7 by factual_blue

'Oh dear' - the response of somebody stuck for an answer.


No, to be fair to him it was intellectual checkmate. I had nowhere else to run and he could see it.

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Tom Hunt - surprising absolutely no one here.... on 11:22 - Dec 7 with 2105 viewsGuthrum

So what are BLM's 'diverse range of aims and objectives', apart from combating racism and - for some of them - changing the way that police are funded in the USA (with the aim of reducing the number of race-related incidents involving law enforcement)?

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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