| Phil Ham Email Reply 14:55 - Dec 10 with 16159 views | left_foot |
I’m sure everyone has had the same response |  | | |  |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:00 - Dec 10 with 3390 views | Plums |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 18:01 - Dec 10 by Coastalblue |
Had the same
I see it as this is a community, quite a big community of people who support ITFC. Phil is the figurehead and represntative of that community, and a moderate face of it too.
The Club is telling me they don't want that community, so in that case they won't get me or my money as part of that community. |
The same here. I live away from Suffolk but spent over £100 with them in October and November. That has since stopped and won’t restart until Phil’s back in the fold.
Town is a part of my life once a week. TWTD is (too) many times a day. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:01 - Dec 10 with 3381 views | DublinBlue84 |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 15:02 - Dec 10 by Dubtractor |
Facking hell this is p1ss weak.
"Indeed the EFL has informed us that we are possibly the only League club, including Premier League, that gives media access to an independent website that includes a supporter driven forum."
Though I read the last statement as meaning that they mean "no change" to working closely with Phil/TWTD and maintaining access to everything, apart from manager pressers. [Post edited 10 Dec 2020 15:04]
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I don't know about now, but there certainly were a few a number of years ago who were able to get into press conferences whilst running a website with a forum.
The club also show themselves to be out of touch. We are not in the 90s anymore and media is no longer just radio stations, TV stations and newspapers and magazines. Online professional publications (as opposed to fansites) like TWTD I believe are just as much media as the traditional forms of media these days.
The quality of content that TWTD puts out is in par or better with the traditional written press and far more comprehensive. Phil is not some part timer doing it out of his bedroom in his spare time as a hobby. He's a professional journalist who has written for numerous publications and contributed to many outlets and he should be treated like a journalist.
When they talk about the forum it makes it sound like their problem is with the forum which makes me think they do not like supporters having their say and being able to share their views with each other and are very sensitive to what is posted here.
If you are an owner, CEO or manager of a football club, criticism from fans and the media and people posting things the club don't agree with on forums etc is a fact of life and every manager and football club and down the country has to deal with it at some point. Petulantly banning someone who is a lifelong Town fan who loves this club because somebody posted a team they heard about from what must surely be a paid member of ITFC staff is pathetic and shows them in very poor light.
The whole thing makes me have visions of some staff at the club watching the forum and then getting triggered by it and then discussing it with other people at the club and so on. Considering the state our club is in, one would suggest that they would be better spending less time doing such things and more time focusing on the real problems at the club. [Post edited 10 Dec 2020 19:08]
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:40 - Dec 10 with 3294 views | shamboy |
'We are sure Phil himself will acknowledge that TWTD has enjoyed unrivalled access down the years for the service it provides.
Indeed the EFL has informed us that we are possibly the only League club, including Premier League, that gives media access to an independent website that includes a supporter driven forum'.
They should be proud of this. It shows inclusiveness, open-ness, engagement and generosity.
But they're not. They have treated it like a dirty little secret and an embarrassment that they have had to change. There was a time when ipswich stood apart from many other clubs for good reasons. Not now. Shame on them.
They're just not very clever, are they? | | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:42 - Dec 10 with 3276 views | jeera |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:40 - Dec 10 by shamboy |
'We are sure Phil himself will acknowledge that TWTD has enjoyed unrivalled access down the years for the service it provides.
Indeed the EFL has informed us that we are possibly the only League club, including Premier League, that gives media access to an independent website that includes a supporter driven forum'.
They should be proud of this. It shows inclusiveness, open-ness, engagement and generosity.
But they're not. They have treated it like a dirty little secret and an embarrassment that they have had to change. There was a time when ipswich stood apart from many other clubs for good reasons. Not now. Shame on them.
They're just not very clever, are they? |
Stick it in a letter mate and let them know how you feel. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:44 - Dec 10 with 3275 views | Ace_High1 |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:42 - Dec 10 by jeera |
Stick it in a letter mate and let them know how you feel. |
Boycott is the only solution to get Marcus to listen. |  | | |
| My reply on 19:49 - Dec 10 with 3259 views | Funge |
Dear Enquiries
Thanks for your email, the contents of which are wholly unsatisfactory.
I will not be spending any further money on this football club until Mr Ham is reinstated, Mr Lambert learns some contrition (or, better yet, departs), and Mr Evans stops taking the long-suffering followers of said club for simpletons.
Hopefully there will be a club left to support, when all of the above finally comes to pass.
Kind Regards
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:54 - Dec 10 with 3236 views | stringy |
no reply yet |  | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:28 - Dec 10 with 3158 views | George25 |
To be realistic Phil probably will be banned from press conferences until lambert goes |  | | |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:34 - Dec 10 with 3143 views | jeera |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:28 - Dec 10 by George25 |
To be realistic Phil probably will be banned from press conferences until lambert goes |
That's probably not too far off, and says much about the manager and the general attitude of the club.
Why on earth would any club actively go out of its way to make enemies of its own fans? | |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:36 - Dec 10 with 3136 views | J2BLUE |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 19:40 - Dec 10 by shamboy |
'We are sure Phil himself will acknowledge that TWTD has enjoyed unrivalled access down the years for the service it provides.
Indeed the EFL has informed us that we are possibly the only League club, including Premier League, that gives media access to an independent website that includes a supporter driven forum'.
They should be proud of this. It shows inclusiveness, open-ness, engagement and generosity.
But they're not. They have treated it like a dirty little secret and an embarrassment that they have had to change. There was a time when ipswich stood apart from many other clubs for good reasons. Not now. Shame on them.
They're just not very clever, are they? |
They aren't the real reasons. Lambert isn't interested in the media now they've seen through his BS so he's had a little tantrum and targeted the only media outlet he can. The rest of Evans' puppets are desperately trying to justify it as none of them have the bottle to say it's a bad idea to keep the ban going.
I expect they'll come back and lay it on thick as soon as Lambert leaves. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:37 - Dec 10 with 3140 views | tivo |
There is a press conference tomorrow for Sat's game? Guessing Phil is not allowed to go? | | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:48 - Dec 10 with 3115 views | PhilTWTD |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:37 - Dec 10 by tivo |
There is a press conference tomorrow for Sat's game? Guessing Phil is not allowed to go? |
I've heard nothing from the club all week. |  | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:54 - Dec 10 with 3076 views | Melford |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 15:04 - Dec 10 by DanTheMan |
Yeah how fecking specific do you need to get? Because there's a discussion forum attached that somehow makes it amazingly different.
Pathetic response, and I replied saying as much. |
It's like banning the EADT or pretty much any newspaper because of what someone had said BTL in the comments there. It's the same thing, an open forum for comment. I could understand it if there was any kind of editorial piece like The Phil Ham Column where he gives his opinion but he doesn't.
The forum is a mirror of what we Town fans think, all Phil does is moderate for anything legally actionable and abuse. If they don't like the negativity on here then they are the only ones who can change it by pulling their fingers out of their ar$es and start playing some decent football and winning games. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:57 - Dec 10 with 3062 views | jeera |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:54 - Dec 10 by Melford |
It's like banning the EADT or pretty much any newspaper because of what someone had said BTL in the comments there. It's the same thing, an open forum for comment. I could understand it if there was any kind of editorial piece like The Phil Ham Column where he gives his opinion but he doesn't.
The forum is a mirror of what we Town fans think, all Phil does is moderate for anything legally actionable and abuse. If they don't like the negativity on here then they are the only ones who can change it by pulling their fingers out of their ar$es and start playing some decent football and winning games. |
The club have already shown several times that those in charge have no idea what the site is or what it's about.
They have held the same misconception for years and aren't interested in learning anything new in case it goes against the grain.
They probably voted Brexit in the main, let's face it. | |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 22:05 - Dec 10 with 3043 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 15:02 - Dec 10 by SpruceMoose |
My iFollow boycott shall continue then. |
Sadly, many, many more are still buying it. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 23:26 - Dec 10 with 2953 views | DinDjarin |
Time for the ping of death |  | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 02:09 - Dec 11 with 2883 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 21:54 - Dec 10 by Melford |
It's like banning the EADT or pretty much any newspaper because of what someone had said BTL in the comments there. It's the same thing, an open forum for comment. I could understand it if there was any kind of editorial piece like The Phil Ham Column where he gives his opinion but he doesn't.
The forum is a mirror of what we Town fans think, all Phil does is moderate for anything legally actionable and abuse. If they don't like the negativity on here then they are the only ones who can change it by pulling their fingers out of their ar$es and start playing some decent football and winning games. |
This is what I don’t understand. It’s nuts.
I think they’re using the team selection thing as a general excuse for something else i.e. Lambert doesn’t like the, ahem, unmoderated/sanctioned questions coming from Ham/TWTD. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 07:35 - Dec 11 with 2777 views | GodBlue |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 15:02 - Dec 10 by Dubtractor |
Facking hell this is p1ss weak.
"Indeed the EFL has informed us that we are possibly the only League club, including Premier League, that gives media access to an independent website that includes a supporter driven forum."
Though I read the last statement as meaning that they mean "no change" to working closely with Phil/TWTD and maintaining access to everything, apart from manager pressers. [Post edited 10 Dec 2020 15:04]
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Indeed, they should be proud of the relationship Phil has built with the club over the years... I am, and I dare say that he probably is! Instead they’re using it as a flimsy excuse to support their manager’s schizophrenic ego.
That statement is just another kick in the gut for Phil. Implying that his craft is not as valid as Watson or Woolley’s. I don’t like to say it, but it’s bullying, and it’s a really upsetting indictment of what our club has become.
I still have absolutely no idea how this move was meant to dissuade anyone from posting the team on this, or any other media outlet in future? Given that they’ve failed to address it in the email (or in any other way) makes me assume they don’t know either!
The way Phil is being treated is a disgrace, there’s no other word for it.
What the club won’t, because they can’t, explain is what problem does the ban actually solve? |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:02 - Dec 11 with 2682 views | Seablu |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 18:01 - Dec 10 by Coastalblue |
Had the same
I see it as this is a community, quite a big community of people who support ITFC. Phil is the figurehead and represntative of that community, and a moderate face of it too.
The Club is telling me they don't want that community, so in that case they won't get me or my money as part of that community. |
The trouble is we need at least 50% of the fan base to take this stance.
Looking at the excitement generated by the ballot, we’re light years away from forcing a complete rethink from within the club. |  | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:13 - Dec 11 with 2661 views | Funge |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:02 - Dec 11 by Seablu |
The trouble is we need at least 50% of the fan base to take this stance.
Looking at the excitement generated by the ballot, we’re light years away from forcing a complete rethink from within the club. |
Good post, agree with this.
I'm absolutely not criticising anyone who wants to go and watch us at present - after the absolute brimming barrel of toss that 2020 has been, I fully recognise that the opportunity to watch football in the flesh, is a big step back towards normality for many.
For me, though, this club can swing until Lambert goes. It's easy to sound pompous, but the club I knew growing up isnt there any more - it's just a strange shell for Evans' entertainment, without direction, optimism or happiness.
Yes, another joyful post from the Funge estate. | | | |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:15 - Dec 11 with 2648 views | footers |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:13 - Dec 11 by Funge |
Good post, agree with this.
I'm absolutely not criticising anyone who wants to go and watch us at present - after the absolute brimming barrel of toss that 2020 has been, I fully recognise that the opportunity to watch football in the flesh, is a big step back towards normality for many.
For me, though, this club can swing until Lambert goes. It's easy to sound pompous, but the club I knew growing up isnt there any more - it's just a strange shell for Evans' entertainment, without direction, optimism or happiness.
Yes, another joyful post from the Funge estate. |
#OperationPremierLeague
#ANewEra
#WhatTheFckAreWeDoing |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:39 - Dec 11 with 2603 views | Seablu |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 10:13 - Dec 11 by Funge |
Good post, agree with this.
I'm absolutely not criticising anyone who wants to go and watch us at present - after the absolute brimming barrel of toss that 2020 has been, I fully recognise that the opportunity to watch football in the flesh, is a big step back towards normality for many.
For me, though, this club can swing until Lambert goes. It's easy to sound pompous, but the club I knew growing up isnt there any more - it's just a strange shell for Evans' entertainment, without direction, optimism or happiness.
Yes, another joyful post from the Funge estate. |
You’re absolutely right, I fully understand the lure of seeing the team in the flesh after 9 months is too great for many.
Similarly, kids needing to have the latest shirt for Xmas.
Add to that all those who will continue with ifollow.
A couple of polite banners and some outrage on here is not going to unduly bother the hierarchy at Portman Rd.
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 11:52 - Dec 11 with 2563 views | ITFC1985 |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 15:10 - Dec 10 by Swailsey |
I have replied, not because I want to cause an argument, but because it is making me very sad:
"Hi,
Thank you for this. From my reading, he is sill banned? In that case, unfortunately my iFollow boycott and abstaining from spending money on ITFC will have to continue.
My season ticket will remain (through gritted teeth), because I can't bear to part with that, or miss out on seeing my Dad.
I do appreciate the email being sent and the club acknowledging this, but I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding on how the forum helps people, how it is a community and an excellent support bubble for 100's of people to battle mental health issues, loss, illness and general life queries, not just football. It is a wonderful place where people come together, care for each other and have made lasting friendships. Phil is central to that, has been so kind to not just me, but many others.
Yes, it can also be horrible, but that is the internet. So is Twitter, so is Facebook. So is YouTube!
A lot of people feel hurt and let down.
I also appreciate this isn't your fault and I'm not trying to be malicious or antagonistic.
If you could pass this on, it would be appreciated.
Thank you" [Post edited 10 Dec 2020 15:14]
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Hi, I'm glad you are supporting the situation but your boycotting comments are fairly flimsy. You are boycotting the club by not watching I follow or buying a shirt which is fine but don't follow it up by saying your aren't giving up your season ticket (the most money you can possibly give to the club) either boycott the club entirely or don't boycott them at all. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 11:57 - Dec 11 with 2554 views | Herbivore |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 11:52 - Dec 11 by ITFC1985 |
Hi, I'm glad you are supporting the situation but your boycotting comments are fairly flimsy. You are boycotting the club by not watching I follow or buying a shirt which is fine but don't follow it up by saying your aren't giving up your season ticket (the most money you can possibly give to the club) either boycott the club entirely or don't boycott them at all. |
He can do what he wants, mate. |  |
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| Phil Ham Email Reply on 12:36 - Dec 11 with 2505 views | J2BLUE |
| Phil Ham Email Reply on 11:52 - Dec 11 by ITFC1985 |
Hi, I'm glad you are supporting the situation but your boycotting comments are fairly flimsy. You are boycotting the club by not watching I follow or buying a shirt which is fine but don't follow it up by saying your aren't giving up your season ticket (the most money you can possibly give to the club) either boycott the club entirely or don't boycott them at all. |
People must draw their own line in the sand and we should respect it. | |
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