| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? 19:09 - Feb 7 with 15322 views | monytowbray |
Bloke is about as balanced as J2’s diet. And always has been. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:08 - Feb 7 with 3251 views | StokieBlue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:06 - Feb 7 by 26_Paz |
These are all conversations we’ve had before so I really do not see the point. Plus it will only result in more vile abuse and I’d really rather not disrupt Phil and Gav’s evenings any further. |
I've never asked you 3 simple questions before.
I still get a downvote for them though - it's not a good look.
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:12 - Feb 7 with 3228 views | jaykay |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 21:17 - Feb 7 by 26_Paz |
He wasn’t PM at the time, not that that is an excuse. All I was saying is that he had made some very ill advised comments in the past which taken in isolation certainly appear offensive but that I do not believe he meant them in such a way. |
what are you on about "ill advised " are you saying someone advised him to say those things.? |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:12 - Feb 7 with 3231 views | eireblue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:06 - Feb 7 by 26_Paz |
These are all conversations we’ve had before so I really do not see the point. Plus it will only result in more vile abuse and I’d really rather not disrupt Phil and Gav’s evenings any further. |
Yes. But you seem to forget parts of the conversation, and the questions that you have avoided before.
As with telling people not to be sweary, when you have been sweary yourself, it’s indicative. |  | | |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:24 - Feb 7 with 3200 views | J2BLUE |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:05 - Feb 7 by SpruceMoose |
Well he can't answer can he?
The truth is we have someone on the forum who it wouldn't be much of a stretch to describe as having sociopathic tendencies.
I don't mind admitting that this place would be a lot better with him gone. |
You could say that about a lot of posters,
(I don't mean you!) |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:31 - Feb 7 with 3174 views | SpruceMoose |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:24 - Feb 7 by J2BLUE |
You could say that about a lot of posters,
(I don't mean you!) |
That's no way to talk about Gav! |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:39 - Feb 7 with 3158 views | Swansea_Blue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 21:05 - Feb 7 by vapour_trail |
Agree. It’ll be a huge success.
It’s a reflection of the continued decline of the nation in terms of international influence. |
I thought it was more to do with all the tvvats, but you’re probably right. We’ve been slowly conditioned to want this fact free, right wing, populist nationalist, opinion based, shock jock style of entertainment (I use the term loosely). It’s just an extension of what the media have been pumping out for years. Sad, but there we are. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:53 - Feb 7 with 3139 views | eireblue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:12 - Feb 7 by eireblue |
Yes. But you seem to forget parts of the conversation, and the questions that you have avoided before.
As with telling people not to be sweary, when you have been sweary yourself, it’s indicative. |
“ Chalk and cheese to the cowardly, racist, weasel he’s replaced.”
Is what Paz said about a certain political leader.
So one leader is racist, based on a definition, clearly written down by a minority group.
Another leader, is ill-advised, making a quip, or satirical, it is not possible to define abuse, based on context.
I have to say at best, that is hypocritical, a person condemning abuse based on a definition and excusing abuse when convenient.
Certainly convenient to forgot some of the things you have said, and questions you ignore, Paz.
You can confirm you are a hypocrite when it comes to racist and homophobic comments, by a simple down arrow. | | | |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 23:05 - Feb 7 with 3102 views | lowhouseblue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 22:53 - Feb 7 by eireblue |
“ Chalk and cheese to the cowardly, racist, weasel he’s replaced.”
Is what Paz said about a certain political leader.
So one leader is racist, based on a definition, clearly written down by a minority group.
Another leader, is ill-advised, making a quip, or satirical, it is not possible to define abuse, based on context.
I have to say at best, that is hypocritical, a person condemning abuse based on a definition and excusing abuse when convenient.
Certainly convenient to forgot some of the things you have said, and questions you ignore, Paz.
You can confirm you are a hypocrite when it comes to racist and homophobic comments, by a simple down arrow. |
what is it that paz is accused of defending? haven't read every post in the thread but can't see the original accusation. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 23:20 - Feb 7 with 3062 views | SpruceMoose |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 23:05 - Feb 7 by lowhouseblue |
what is it that paz is accused of defending? haven't read every post in the thread but can't see the original accusation. |
That pickaninny isn't racist and bumboy isn't homophobic.
The point Eire is making is that Paz refuses to condemn Boris Johnson for using those terms - claiming he was just joking. This is very strange considering how (correctly) he was so outraged at anti-semitism within the Labour party.
I don't want to put words into Eire's mouth, but I think they are wondering a) where the consistency is and B) how someone in 2021 can claim that it's ever ok to use the term 'pickaninny'.
Obviously this is but one of multiple crimes against decency Paz has produced on this forum, but his list is long and our time is short so best stick to racism and homophobia for now. [Post edited 7 Feb 2021 23:21]
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 02:08 - Feb 8 with 3002 views | NewcyBlue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 21:17 - Feb 7 by 26_Paz |
He wasn’t PM at the time, not that that is an excuse. All I was saying is that he had made some very ill advised comments in the past which taken in isolation certainly appear offensive but that I do not believe he meant them in such a way. |
I’ll let MrsN know that it’s ok for people to call her a picaninnie with a watermelon smile because of the colour of her skin mate. Don’t worry. I’ve got your back.
As for some of my gay mates, I’ll let let them know that being called a tank topped bum boy is just someone having a laugh. They should get over themselves right?
You really are pretty daft.
If someone called my mixed race Missus, or our mixed race kids, any of the above, I would give them a damned good thrashing. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 03:07 - Feb 8 with 2975 views | SpruceMoose |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 02:08 - Feb 8 by NewcyBlue |
I’ll let MrsN know that it’s ok for people to call her a picaninnie with a watermelon smile because of the colour of her skin mate. Don’t worry. I’ve got your back.
As for some of my gay mates, I’ll let let them know that being called a tank topped bum boy is just someone having a laugh. They should get over themselves right?
You really are pretty daft.
If someone called my mixed race Missus, or our mixed race kids, any of the above, I would give them a damned good thrashing. |
“You really are pretty daft."
You’re 100% correct Newcy. It's reached a point of ridiculousness now. You have my sympathy, having to read this crap.
Paz has been taking the pish out of us all for months now. He repeatedly says things that no decent person would even think let alone voice on a public forum. The kicker is that he then has the audacity to claim that we are the ones who are somehow bullying him!
He's on a wind up. It's absolutely absurd and insulting that he says the things he says and then tries to play the victim. He wouldn't dare say what he says on here to to your face. Or mine. Or anyone's.
There are good people on this site. Diverse people. We deserve better than this. [Post edited 8 Feb 2021 3:11]
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 07:25 - Feb 8 with 2890 views | Leaky |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 20:21 - Feb 7 by 26_Paz |
Not sure, I got censored for calling someone a ‘cretin’ a couple of weeks ago ... not sure policing is entirely consistent if I’m honest. |
Well I read a post on here yesterday regarding Rod Liddel ( I think that was his name ) and some the posts from left were disgusting. I did notice they were taken down. Some of the far left poster's on here are as hateful as the far right they are suppose to despise |  | | |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 07:32 - Feb 8 with 2882 views | jeera |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 07:25 - Feb 8 by Leaky |
Well I read a post on here yesterday regarding Rod Liddel ( I think that was his name ) and some the posts from left were disgusting. I did notice they were taken down. Some of the far left poster's on here are as hateful as the far right they are suppose to despise |
With respect Leaks, if you don't know who Liddle is chap, then you're not in a position to comment on that one.
He's not a pheasant plucker.
As an aside, I could do with your - or any competent plumber - professional advice on something at some point. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:16 - Feb 8 with 2856 views | Leaky |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 07:32 - Feb 8 by jeera |
With respect Leaks, if you don't know who Liddle is chap, then you're not in a position to comment on that one.
He's not a pheasant plucker.
As an aside, I could do with your - or any competent plumber - professional advice on something at some point. |
Hi Jeera.
After the phone hacking scandal I made a conscience decision not buy main stream newspapers. So your correct I don't who this guy is. How ever that doesn't excuse the abuse used If you want some plumbing advice pm me. | | | |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:17 - Feb 8 with 2854 views | lowhouseblue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 23:20 - Feb 7 by SpruceMoose |
That pickaninny isn't racist and bumboy isn't homophobic.
The point Eire is making is that Paz refuses to condemn Boris Johnson for using those terms - claiming he was just joking. This is very strange considering how (correctly) he was so outraged at anti-semitism within the Labour party.
I don't want to put words into Eire's mouth, but I think they are wondering a) where the consistency is and B) how someone in 2021 can claim that it's ever ok to use the term 'pickaninny'.
Obviously this is but one of multiple crimes against decency Paz has produced on this forum, but his list is long and our time is short so best stick to racism and homophobia for now. [Post edited 7 Feb 2021 23:21]
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have you actually read the article where he used the word piccaninny? it's a political attack on uk foreign policy in 2002 and he attempts to depict blair and co as having outdated imperialist attitudes. it's an unpleasant article because of its politics - but he is ridiculing the thinking behind foreign intervention as being, he claims, like 19th century white europeans having a patronising / racist view of grateful and helpless natives. he is claiming (offensively) that that's how the people he is attacking (blair and co) see those populations, he is not implying that that is how he himself sees them. he is accusing people of racist thinking not intending himself to be racist.
but that's all very 2002 and surely it's be done on here before. as the basis for a hate campaign against paz it seems pretty forced. | |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:26 - Feb 8 with 2837 views | 26_Paz |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:17 - Feb 8 by lowhouseblue |
have you actually read the article where he used the word piccaninny? it's a political attack on uk foreign policy in 2002 and he attempts to depict blair and co as having outdated imperialist attitudes. it's an unpleasant article because of its politics - but he is ridiculing the thinking behind foreign intervention as being, he claims, like 19th century white europeans having a patronising / racist view of grateful and helpless natives. he is claiming (offensively) that that's how the people he is attacking (blair and co) see those populations, he is not implying that that is how he himself sees them. he is accusing people of racist thinking not intending himself to be racist.
but that's all very 2002 and surely it's be done on here before. as the basis for a hate campaign against paz it seems pretty forced. |
Absolutely correct on all points. Well said, sir.
Two abusive posts aimed at me have been removed from this thread alone, thanks to the admins for swift action.
It’s time some people moved on. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:26 - Feb 8 with 2838 views | Manchesterblue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 19:22 - Feb 7 by BlueBadger |
The last thing this country needs is yet more airtime for far-right blowhards, thickos and rent-a-bigots(plus the occasional interview with Priti Patel for the whole 'we're not racist, some of our best guests are brown' cred) to chuck out their brainfarts to idiots who are all too willing to be radicalised. [Post edited 7 Feb 2021 19:24]
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Then keep watching your left wing, woke BBC, no-one is forcing you to watch it.
I bet you take the knee too. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:30 - Feb 8 with 2824 views | m14_blue |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:26 - Feb 8 by Manchesterblue |
Then keep watching your left wing, woke BBC, no-one is forcing you to watch it.
I bet you take the knee too. |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:30 - Feb 8 with 2825 views | gtsb1966 |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:17 - Feb 8 by lowhouseblue |
have you actually read the article where he used the word piccaninny? it's a political attack on uk foreign policy in 2002 and he attempts to depict blair and co as having outdated imperialist attitudes. it's an unpleasant article because of its politics - but he is ridiculing the thinking behind foreign intervention as being, he claims, like 19th century white europeans having a patronising / racist view of grateful and helpless natives. he is claiming (offensively) that that's how the people he is attacking (blair and co) see those populations, he is not implying that that is how he himself sees them. he is accusing people of racist thinking not intending himself to be racist.
but that's all very 2002 and surely it's be done on here before. as the basis for a hate campaign against paz it seems pretty forced. |
Your last sentence is spot on. It is forced and it's twisted by the usual suspects. It's all very boring and predictable. Time for me to hibernate for a while. Saves reading the same crap everyday. |  | | |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:49 - Feb 8 with 2786 views | itfcjoe |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:30 - Feb 8 by gtsb1966 |
Your last sentence is spot on. It is forced and it's twisted by the usual suspects. It's all very boring and predictable. Time for me to hibernate for a while. Saves reading the same crap everyday. |
Both sides love it, if Paz didn't want to get these people riled up he wouldn't make the pointless remark about looking forward to this channel clearly designed to antagonise, and if the other side didn't want to have the exact same debate for the 100000th time where nothing changes then they'd just let his comment slide.
Best just to ignore it, but these sort of interactions are what the current Govt want with regards to the culture war - divide and conquer - but people can't help themselves |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 09:02 - Feb 8 with 2753 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:49 - Feb 8 by itfcjoe |
Both sides love it, if Paz didn't want to get these people riled up he wouldn't make the pointless remark about looking forward to this channel clearly designed to antagonise, and if the other side didn't want to have the exact same debate for the 100000th time where nothing changes then they'd just let his comment slide.
Best just to ignore it, but these sort of interactions are what the current Govt want with regards to the culture war - divide and conquer - but people can't help themselves |
This times infinity, and it’s all so f**king tedious for the other 98% of the board too |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 09:15 - Feb 8 with 2722 views | Lord_Lucan |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:17 - Feb 8 by lowhouseblue |
have you actually read the article where he used the word piccaninny? it's a political attack on uk foreign policy in 2002 and he attempts to depict blair and co as having outdated imperialist attitudes. it's an unpleasant article because of its politics - but he is ridiculing the thinking behind foreign intervention as being, he claims, like 19th century white europeans having a patronising / racist view of grateful and helpless natives. he is claiming (offensively) that that's how the people he is attacking (blair and co) see those populations, he is not implying that that is how he himself sees them. he is accusing people of racist thinking not intending himself to be racist.
but that's all very 2002 and surely it's be done on here before. as the basis for a hate campaign against paz it seems pretty forced. |
This is of course completely true and I mentioned this some years back but people just put their fingers in their ears. It was an attack on British Imperialism and Tony Blair "big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird"
I also pointed out the letterbox thing which was actually a defence of female women Muslims - "If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree"
If someone has more time perhaps they can find the original full articles.
I just had a look but all you can seem to find is snippets taken out of context - however if people actually thinks Boris Johnson actually goers around calling people Picanninies then they have either never read the article, do not have the brain power to understand it or simply don't want to - or a mix of the three.
Edit; if people think Andrew Neil is right wing then they haven't seen him destroy right wing guests over the years. [Post edited 8 Feb 2021 9:20]
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 09:17 - Feb 8 with 2712 views | Herbivore |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:16 - Feb 8 by Leaky |
Hi Jeera.
After the phone hacking scandal I made a conscience decision not buy main stream newspapers. So your correct I don't who this guy is. How ever that doesn't excuse the abuse used If you want some plumbing advice pm me. |
I called Rod Liddle subhuman scum, which he is. That was descriptive, not abusive. If you don't know who he is you're not really best placed to comment. |  |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 09:18 - Feb 8 with 2701 views | monytowbray |
Welcome to TWTD, where we have a “both sides” debate about racism and homophobia.
Cool everyone, cool. | |
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| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 09:18 - Feb 8 with 2695 views | Herbivore |
| How did Andrew Neil last so long at the Beeb? on 08:26 - Feb 8 by Manchesterblue |
Then keep watching your left wing, woke BBC, no-one is forcing you to watch it.
I bet you take the knee too. |
Left wing BBC?
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