| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown 07:44 - Feb 21 with 15071 views | itfcjoe |
What a club |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:44 - Feb 21 with 3776 views | TractorWood |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:37 - Feb 21 by hype313 |
If so, makes the whole thing even more baffling. |
Yes. It's almost like people said it was a ridiculous decision at the time. I remember when they announced it, I thought it was a joke. He was on thin ice then imo as we plummeted down the table.
Who knows what's going on but the scariest scenario is nothing is going on behind the scenes and Evans just CBA with Ipswich anymore. |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:45 - Feb 21 with 3773 views | tractorboy1978 |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:42 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
Is Evans merely so busy with his other interests (trying to save his hospitality and conferencing businesses during a series of global lockdowns?) that he doesn't have the time to put serious thought into ITFC - beyond not spending more money on it than he has to?
If he's abroad working and all he gets are bullish reports from Lambert plus, perhaps, ones which under-represent fan anger from O'Neill (or he may just have no regard for the latter - BCWYWF, fans always dissatisfied etc.), then he might not have a realistic view of how bad things are getting. All he sees from a quick glance is that we're only a couple of wins from the play-offs.
No urgent need to act.
I'm not at all sure that's true. Would mean none of his other information conduits are working. But it's a viable scenario. |
It's truly baffling that a very experienced and apparently ruthless businessman seems to constantly get the wool pulled over his eyes by this complete fraud. |  | | |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:47 - Feb 21 with 3755 views | blueprint |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:09 - Feb 21 by DanTheMan |
If he's still here when season ticket renewals rumble around, I think Evans in for quite a shock.
I just cannot believe how stubborn he's being. There is nothing to gain keeping him here. [Post edited 21 Feb 2021 8:12]
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Unfortunately we have quite a few thousand happy clappers that follow us and are always happy to part with their money when the season tickets get put back on sale. |  | | |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:49 - Feb 21 with 3729 views | Guthrum |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:34 - Feb 21 by Herbivore |
He won't have to pay up the rest of the contract. It will cost him a fair chunk I imagine but it's not going to be nearly 4 years worth of the contract. |
No, but, when you add in paying off Lambert's backroom staff, interviews, legal stuff and whatever, it might be a million or two at a time when he's already having to cover significant extra shortfalls and may not be able to load too much extra onto his businesses.
Perhaps it's simply that Evans currently does not have the time to do the interviewing, canvassing opinions and decisionmaking required in selecting a new manager for ITFC. Too busy elsewhere, doing other stuff. |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:49 - Feb 21 with 3720 views | Herbivore |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:42 - Feb 21 by hype313 |
Which makes me lead to think it can only be a takeover, it's the only plausible reason, but I just can't see how this would happen during a global pandemic and economic downturn.
Its all such a head scratcher. |
I can't see there being anyone wanting to buy us and I still maintain that if a takeover was remotely close that there'd be some more credible reports of it doing the rounds rather than just fake ITK types on twitter.
My best guess is that he has backed Lambert heavily and still has some faith in him. He'll look at the table and see us not that far off the top 6 with a game or two in hand and think Lambert still has a chance of getting us in the play offs. With the games coming thick and fast and the transfer window closed, I think he probably feels it's better to stick than to twist. He's always been very cautious when it comes to these kinds of decisions, Jewell practically had to beg to be let go and Mick was asked to basically be his own caretaker manager for a few months.
It's entirely bonkers and we're basically throwing another season away through Evans' indecision and Lambert's incompetence, but that looks to be the path we're on. Genuinely don't see him being sacked imminently now. |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:50 - Feb 21 with 3724 views | itfcjoe |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:42 - Feb 21 by hype313 |
Which makes me lead to think it can only be a takeover, it's the only plausible reason, but I just can't see how this would happen during a global pandemic and economic downturn.
Its all such a head scratcher. |
There is a plausible reason that he still thinks Lambert is the right man, that’s much more likely than any rumoured takeover | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:52 - Feb 21 with 3694 views | Herbivore |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:49 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
No, but, when you add in paying off Lambert's backroom staff, interviews, legal stuff and whatever, it might be a million or two at a time when he's already having to cover significant extra shortfalls and may not be able to load too much extra onto his businesses.
Perhaps it's simply that Evans currently does not have the time to do the interviewing, canvassing opinions and decisionmaking required in selecting a new manager for ITFC. Too busy elsewhere, doing other stuff. |
Which just strengthens the case for Evans to get someone in to actually oversee Town. Running a football club isn't something you can do in your spare time. It's a dereliction of duty at this point. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:54 - Feb 21 with 3675 views | Kieran_Knows |
Negligence from Evans. He should be sacked alone for the way he speaks/treats the local media, and that’s before you look in to the results/performances these last 3 seasons.
The bloke is an utter c#ck and Evans is falling for it. The sooner he f#cks off, the better.
Shoot me, I hope Hull batter us Tuesday and it’s the final straw for him. |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:59 - Feb 21 with 3634 views | hype313 |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:50 - Feb 21 by itfcjoe |
There is a plausible reason that he still thinks Lambert is the right man, that’s much more likely than any rumoured takeover |
If that's the case then there is no hope, we might as well all just call it a day. |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:02 - Feb 21 with 3618 views | Guthrum |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:45 - Feb 21 by tractorboy1978 |
It's truly baffling that a very experienced and apparently ruthless businessman seems to constantly get the wool pulled over his eyes by this complete fraud. |
Because ITFC is not a core part of his business network. It's a minor investment (hobby, even) which has gone rather wrong. Not really his main area of expertise, either.
Like most leaders, he's relied on delegating to senior executives with the right knowlege and experience to run the show on his behalf. The Manager, in Ipswich Town's case. They are also the chief reporting channel back up to him. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:04 - Feb 21 with 3591 views | hype313 |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:02 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
Because ITFC is not a core part of his business network. It's a minor investment (hobby, even) which has gone rather wrong. Not really his main area of expertise, either.
Like most leaders, he's relied on delegating to senior executives with the right knowlege and experience to run the show on his behalf. The Manager, in Ipswich Town's case. They are also the chief reporting channel back up to him. |
Lamberts basically been writing his own appraisal. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:05 - Feb 21 with 3582 views | textbackup |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:02 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
Because ITFC is not a core part of his business network. It's a minor investment (hobby, even) which has gone rather wrong. Not really his main area of expertise, either.
Like most leaders, he's relied on delegating to senior executives with the right knowlege and experience to run the show on his behalf. The Manager, in Ipswich Town's case. They are also the chief reporting channel back up to him. |
"Not really his main area of expertise"
i could think of a better way of describing his football club running |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:11 - Feb 21 with 3539 views | tractorboy1978 |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:02 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
Because ITFC is not a core part of his business network. It's a minor investment (hobby, even) which has gone rather wrong. Not really his main area of expertise, either.
Like most leaders, he's relied on delegating to senior executives with the right knowlege and experience to run the show on his behalf. The Manager, in Ipswich Town's case. They are also the chief reporting channel back up to him. |
That's a significant part of the problem, he doesn't delegate properly as he doesn't empower anyone else to make decisions. [Post edited 21 Feb 2021 9:12]
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:11 - Feb 21 with 3528 views | mrshallisfit |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:04 - Feb 21 by uppersirbob |
Perhaps Marcus is having trouble recruiting a new manager ?
He has always had one lined up before he gets rid of one
Or this take over is genuine and he just wants the club off his hands as soon as possible and can’t be bothered to sack him ? |
Or......He just doesnt want the hassle anymore/he hasn't got a fricking clue | | | |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:13 - Feb 21 with 3523 views | Guthrum |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:52 - Feb 21 by Herbivore |
Which just strengthens the case for Evans to get someone in to actually oversee Town. Running a football club isn't something you can do in your spare time. It's a dereliction of duty at this point. |
But that involves either seconding somebody actually useful from elsewhere in his business (thus losing their services where they were needed) or going to the trouble and expense of hiring someone and paying their salary.
If he gets a retired footballer to do it, are they any better than the managers they are supposed to be keeping tabs on (who are retired footballers themselves)? And can they do the business/financial side? If you get someone with general business experience, will they understand the peculiarities of the sport? He'd have to pay more to get someone expert in both sides.
Plus it all looks very important from our end, but may be nothing more than a minor distraction from his. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:14 - Feb 21 with 3516 views | RegencyBlue |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:04 - Feb 21 by uppersirbob |
Perhaps Marcus is having trouble recruiting a new manager ?
He has always had one lined up before he gets rid of one
Or this take over is genuine and he just wants the club off his hands as soon as possible and can’t be bothered to sack him ? |
Evans stock in the game must be very low and I can’t imagine anyone with a good reputation wanting to work for him frankly.
If he isn’t selling then it will be someone desperate to resurrect a failing career he appoints. Doesn’t bode well! |  | | |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:15 - Feb 21 with 3510 views | pointofblue |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:42 - Feb 21 by hype313 |
Which makes me lead to think it can only be a takeover, it's the only plausible reason, but I just can't see how this would happen during a global pandemic and economic downturn.
Its all such a head scratcher. |
Though if the takeover rumours are true why has Evans reportedly been talking to potential replacements?
To be fair, Phil has said from the end of last week, when the news of the meeting leaked, that Lambert would be around for Oxford and probably Hull. If he’s still here for Doncaster my personal anger at the situation will grow further. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:16 - Feb 21 with 3503 views | Guthrum |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:11 - Feb 21 by tractorboy1978 |
That's a significant part of the problem, he doesn't delegate properly as he doesn't empower anyone else to make decisions. [Post edited 21 Feb 2021 9:12]
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A common problem with entrepreneurs. Very difficult to go hands-off when you've built something from scratch yourself. Keeping to certain standards. Especially after the first couple of times you entrust something to others and they don't deliver. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:20 - Feb 21 with 3472 views | Herbivore |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:13 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
But that involves either seconding somebody actually useful from elsewhere in his business (thus losing their services where they were needed) or going to the trouble and expense of hiring someone and paying their salary.
If he gets a retired footballer to do it, are they any better than the managers they are supposed to be keeping tabs on (who are retired footballers themselves)? And can they do the business/financial side? If you get someone with general business experience, will they understand the peculiarities of the sport? He'd have to pay more to get someone expert in both sides.
Plus it all looks very important from our end, but may be nothing more than a minor distraction from his. |
If he's that disinterested he should just get rid of the club. It's making him no money, it's costing him in fact, and if he's genuinely not willing to put anymore time or money in then he has zero chance of recouping anything he's already put in. He may as well give the club away. I'm not sure that I buy that he's quite so detached from it as you suggest though, I just think he's completely hopeless. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:24 - Feb 21 with 3464 views | NthQldITFC |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:26 - Feb 21 by Herbivore |
This league is so poor that a competent manager could get us on a bit of a run and we could make the play offs. However, it seems Evans won't sack Lambert for whatever reason so it's hard to see anything other than a midtable finish. |
I like this calm, accurate and succinct appraisal, which represents how I feel given the credible suggestions that, despite everything, change may not be imminent.
However, given the fact that I've been feeling more and more angry about the situation recently, the fact that I feel calm and dispassionate this morning, suggests to me that I may have lost interest on some deeper level. I might not get that interest back, and the rugby league season which is starting soon might well put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as ITFC and football is concerned. Cheers Evans. |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:25 - Feb 21 with 3452 views | MonkeyAlan |
He is here for the rest of the season at least. And could start next as well. |  | | |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:28 - Feb 21 with 3438 views | footers |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 08:54 - Feb 21 by Kieran_Knows |
Negligence from Evans. He should be sacked alone for the way he speaks/treats the local media, and that’s before you look in to the results/performances these last 3 seasons.
The bloke is an utter c#ck and Evans is falling for it. The sooner he f#cks off, the better.
Shoot me, I hope Hull batter us Tuesday and it’s the final straw for him. |
A battering from Oxford was what I paid out for yesterdsy. Silly me, another tenner down the drain. If a toothless, clueless nil-nil against Oxford is seen as a good result by the manager and owner, then Ireally don't see why the club deserves backing by any of us. The bar is so low now we may as well rename ourselves Ipswich Limbo Club and be done with it.
#EveryoneOut #ButLetPhilInAgainPlease |  |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:29 - Feb 21 with 3439 views | Guthrum |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:20 - Feb 21 by Herbivore |
If he's that disinterested he should just get rid of the club. It's making him no money, it's costing him in fact, and if he's genuinely not willing to put anymore time or money in then he has zero chance of recouping anything he's already put in. He may as well give the club away. I'm not sure that I buy that he's quite so detached from it as you suggest though, I just think he's completely hopeless. |
You may well be right. Also, I'm not sure it's so much detatched as rather too busy just at this moment, given the pandemic will be hitting his main business interests quite hard.
After all, while Evans has previously given managers lots of time, he's never dallied to quite the extent he is now in the face if impending disaster. | |
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| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:30 - Feb 21 with 3456 views | PhilTWTD |
Indeed, sounds very much like it from the noises I hear and the post-match press conference mood. More dither. |  | | |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:31 - Feb 21 with 3422 views | pointofblue |
| So looks like we are going to waste another couple of games then with this clown on 09:30 - Feb 21 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, sounds very much like it from the noises I hear and the post-match press conference mood. More dither. |
Damn, I was still holding out to the post Hull meeting. Are you now starting to think that might be something other than discussing terms of departure, Phil? | |
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