| Another academy player speaking out 18:57 - Feb 25 with 8808 views | George03 |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:14 - Feb 25 with 1340 views | MattinLondon |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:04 - Feb 25 by Funge |
A mate of mine's son was approached by those pricks up the road, to go and join their academy - his boy was 10.
He was expected to go up the A140 once a week, and on Saturday - and was told that he wouldn't be allowed to have a kickabout with his mates at school.
My mate's boy turned them down - essentially he just wanted to have a laugh with his mates at school - which is obviously the whole point.
I think you and I are in broad agreement that the whole academy thing is geared up completely incorrectly. [Post edited 25 Feb 2021 20:04]
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I could well be talking rubbish - but once upon a time (not that long ago) didn’t under 16s have to live within so many miles of their actual home to the club they were attached to? |  | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:17 - Feb 25 with 1332 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Another academy player speaking out on 19:53 - Feb 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I don't think he was looking to do that at all. |
You need to read what he's posted again. He's basically saying the kid needs to toughen up and that "we were bullied as kids" as if that makes it acceptable. |  |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:17 - Feb 25 with 1325 views | BryanPlug |
| Another academy player speaking out on 19:50 - Feb 25 by monytowbray |
Sh1t like this is the reason abuse victims, particularly male ones, don't come forward and the whole cycle continues.
Victim shaming/blaming. Have a word with yourself. [Post edited 25 Feb 2021 19:51]
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:18 - Feb 25 with 1315 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:17 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You need to read what he's posted again. He's basically saying the kid needs to toughen up and that "we were bullied as kids" as if that makes it acceptable. |
Agree to differ. |  |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:19 - Feb 25 with 1313 views | Funge |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:14 - Feb 25 by MattinLondon |
I could well be talking rubbish - but once upon a time (not that long ago) didn’t under 16s have to live within so many miles of their actual home to the club they were attached to? |
Nah, that rings a bell - I've got a note in my head that it was 50 miles or 90 mins drive.
That lot are 43 miles away, which is obviously nowhere near far enough.
Stand to be corrected on all of the above though. |  | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:22 - Feb 25 with 1300 views | MattinLondon |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:17 - Feb 25 by BryanPlug |
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In a nutshell if a dick is acting like a dick on a regular basis to the same people frequently then it’s bullying.
If it’s a once -off then you can probably call it as non-bullying.
Somewhere in between then the dick is someone who likes to throw their weight around. | | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:23 - Feb 25 with 1297 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:17 - Feb 25 by BryanPlug |
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Jesus wept. | |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:24 - Feb 25 with 1290 views | chrismakin |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:19 - Feb 25 by Funge |
Nah, that rings a bell - I've got a note in my head that it was 50 miles or 90 mins drive.
That lot are 43 miles away, which is obviously nowhere near far enough.
Stand to be corrected on all of the above though. |
Wasn't that why Wickham ended up at town? |  |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:24 - Feb 25 with 1287 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:17 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You need to read what he's posted again. He's basically saying the kid needs to toughen up and that "we were bullied as kids" as if that makes it acceptable. |
Thought you were putting me on ignore Bloots? | |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:25 - Feb 25 with 1280 views | MattinLondon |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:19 - Feb 25 by Funge |
Nah, that rings a bell - I've got a note in my head that it was 50 miles or 90 mins drive.
That lot are 43 miles away, which is obviously nowhere near far enough.
Stand to be corrected on all of the above though. |
I seem to recall reading something in the Evening Star in the 90s relating to the distance you said.
Maybe the FA abolished this with the advent of the academies. | | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:26 - Feb 25 with 1275 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:00 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Do you not think the lack of a goalkeeper coach is pretty damning/amateurish? |
Maybe wait to hear the club's side of it? | |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:27 - Feb 25 with 1273 views | MattinLondon |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:24 - Feb 25 by chrismakin |
Wasn't that why Wickham ended up at town? |
Didn’t his dad move army bases? | | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:27 - Feb 25 with 1269 views | townblue |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:26 - Feb 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Maybe wait to hear the club's side of it? |
If it's anything like the side they gave after the training group protest, it would probably be complete BS. |  | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:28 - Feb 25 with 1261 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:27 - Feb 25 by townblue |
If it's anything like the side they gave after the training group protest, it would probably be complete BS. |
Would be good if Phil could get an interview with Klug or someone. I would respect his view. | |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:29 - Feb 25 with 1261 views | MattinLondon |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:26 - Feb 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Maybe wait to hear the club's side of it? |
The trouble being, recently their record of replying to incidents, hasn’t really left that many people confident in the clubs abilities to address such concerns. | | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:32 - Feb 25 with 1252 views | pointofblue |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:29 - Feb 25 by MattinLondon |
The trouble being, recently their record of replying to incidents, hasn’t really left that many people confident in the clubs abilities to address such concerns. |
And sown the seeds to question the club’s honesty - if they can lie about things so readily, despite clear proof saying otherwise, then how they can be trusted about something which is mainly behind closed doors? |  |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:36 - Feb 25 with 1245 views | George03 |
| Another academy player speaking out on 19:45 - Feb 25 by Bluefish |
I really hope the family come out and give us the full story as to why he ate lettuce and beans, realistically he was perfectly old enough to make his own meal. I suspect he was out st meal time or refuse to eat the offering. If that is all they offered then they should be struck off the list but I doubt it |
Especially when they are getting money from the club. Least they can do is provide a substantial meal. | | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:36 - Feb 25 with 1243 views | BryanPlug |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:28 - Feb 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Would be good if Phil could get an interview with Klug or someone. I would respect his view. |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:37 - Feb 25 with 1240 views | MattinLondon |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:32 - Feb 25 by pointofblue |
And sown the seeds to question the club’s honesty - if they can lie about things so readily, despite clear proof saying otherwise, then how they can be trusted about something which is mainly behind closed doors? |
Exactly. I always thought that academies needed to employ independent welfare officers who only answer to the FA. Maybe I’m wrong on this. | | | |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:38 - Feb 25 with 1237 views | Bluefish |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:36 - Feb 25 by George03 |
Especially when they are getting money from the club. Least they can do is provide a substantial meal. |
I expect they do. Need the full story, it wasn't they didn't provide substantial meals it was he had to have lettuce and beans. Seemed like a specific incident to me, he is an 18 year old lad there are going to be missed or rejected meals. He should be able to make himself food in that circumstance |  |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:40 - Feb 25 with 1236 views | hype313 |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:38 - Feb 25 by Bluefish |
I expect they do. Need the full story, it wasn't they didn't provide substantial meals it was he had to have lettuce and beans. Seemed like a specific incident to me, he is an 18 year old lad there are going to be missed or rejected meals. He should be able to make himself food in that circumstance |
Lettuce and beans? Was he lodging with the Fritzl's? |  |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:40 - Feb 25 with 1234 views | Chrisd |
To be honest, I feel this is a usual process at most clubs. Certainly players should be given more help especially those that aren’t given an extension to their contract. Like most occupations, it’s about who you know, the connections that clubs have they could play a huge part in assisting players with their next move. It is a culture shock for most once they are out of the club’s cocoon and they’ve got to fend for themselves. I do believe clubs don’t do their bit as they do have that element of fear that they might have made a mistake by letting players go especially if it was borderline decision. They still have a responsibility in a player’s welfare even if they are heading for the exit door with them. [Post edited 25 Feb 2021 20:57]
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:41 - Feb 25 with 1225 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:36 - Feb 25 by George03 |
Especially when they are getting money from the club. Least they can do is provide a substantial meal. |
We don't know any of the context there at all.
Let's not create a narrative that he was fed that for every meal. | |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:42 - Feb 25 with 1220 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Another academy player speaking out on 20:36 - Feb 25 by BryanPlug |
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Lol, yes, probably.
I'd rather hear from Klug. | |
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| Another academy player speaking out on 20:43 - Feb 25 with 1222 views | George03 |
| Another academy player speaking out on 19:41 - Feb 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I wonder what role the parents play too.
My oldest is 7, and the amount of pushy parents is scary. All desperate for their kids to get 'scouted'. ...paying £20 for their kids to attend open trials etc.
Personally I'd rather my lad isn't scouted at a young age and can just enjoy his football. |
A rule of thump I was told was told is if they are not playing couple age groups up they are unlikely to make it. The one that are playing within their age group are just there to make the numbers up. | | | |
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