| 2m to pay off Lambert... 11:22 - Feb 28 with 13207 views | ITFCBlues |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:16 - Feb 28 with 2323 views | easynote |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:05 - Feb 28 by Herbivore |
If we won't pay that how is it accurate to say he'll be getting a £2m pay off? That doesn't stack up. They've done some fag packet maths, but we all know that there's no way he's getting the full amount of his 4 years paid up. |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:18 - Feb 28 with 2304 views | Herbivore |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:16 - Feb 28 by easynote |
Who cares |
Anything remotely interesting to add to the thread, fella? |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:20 - Feb 28 with 2292 views | wkj |
I'm curious if his flippant remarks about the takeover would be grounds for termination because of mishandling sensitive information? Surely there are some things that can trigger contract breaks without ramifications |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:21 - Feb 28 with 2289 views | BluedanW |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:10 - Feb 28 by Herbivore |
Exactly. As well as break clauses that reduce the figure significantly I'd imagine there's an agreed sum or percentage in there for either party to terminate the contract early. I think Phil might have suggested at one point that he'd heard that if we sack him within the first 2 years of the deal we have to pay up 2.5 years of it but I might be misremembering the detail and I'm not sure it was presented as solid def info. |
I'm sure there could be grounds for sacking without pay off after his attitude towards the fans, media and disrespect of the owner.
Slating his boss to the local radio is surely enough to sever any contract. Im sure Evans has decent lawyers.
Would a takeover make any current contracts void anyway?
I hope the new owners reward their new loyal fans who have been funding the club during lock down. Not waste money paying off an under achieving fool. | | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:22 - Feb 28 with 2283 views | Matt_Netherlands |
Lazy journalism....
Widely reported to be on £500k a year.
Signed a 5 year contract 12 months ago
4 years remaking x £500k = lazy Sun headline
I’d imagine the clause is something like 50% of remaining contract paid up, totalling no more than 12 months, in a sacking situation |  | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:25 - Feb 28 with 2261 views | hochiblue |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 11:27 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
Think that's very speculative, and think the meeting was at Portman Road not the training ground. |
I assumed that’s why he seemed so cheerful. Maybe a change of control clause in his contract that means he gets the whole lot, without performance issues being considered. | | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:58 - Feb 28 with 2144 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:25 - Feb 28 by hochiblue |
I assumed that’s why he seemed so cheerful. Maybe a change of control clause in his contract that means he gets the whole lot, without performance issues being considered. |
He sounded fairly downbeat in yesterday's interview. Even his 'Paul Cook in my office' joke was fairly deadpan. |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:07 - Feb 28 with 2104 views | J2BLUE |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 11:30 - Feb 28 by ElderGrizzly |
He's on £500k a year and has 4 years left.
We won't pay that, but it is accurate. |
Thank fook, we can now relax safe in the knowledge that it's BS. |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:11 - Feb 28 with 2063 views | jayessess |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:21 - Feb 28 by BluedanW |
I'm sure there could be grounds for sacking without pay off after his attitude towards the fans, media and disrespect of the owner.
Slating his boss to the local radio is surely enough to sever any contract. Im sure Evans has decent lawyers.
Would a takeover make any current contracts void anyway?
I hope the new owners reward their new loyal fans who have been funding the club during lock down. Not waste money paying off an under achieving fool. |
No, on both counts.
Football managers don't get sacked for conduct very often. The bar for "gross misconduct" is incredibly high and football clubs seem to view it as counter-productive to dismiss managers through a structured disciplinary system.
Notts County tried it in 2017, sacking John Sheridan for threatening a referee with violence. He took them to court and got compensation:
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-plymouth-ar
Brighton also tried to sack Gus Poyet for gross misconduct in 2011, for criticising the owner in an interview. He also went to the lawyers and Brighton settled rather than go to court:
http://www.wearebrighton.com/newsopinion/gus-poyet-lifts-the-lid-on-his-brighton
Non-league Grimsby seem to have successfully got rid of Rob Scott in 2013 through disciplinary proceedings. From the sounds of things it was because Scott was repeatedly violent and as a consequence they took him through a full disciplinary with internal appeal etc. It probably also helped that the money involved likely wasn't very much.
https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/features/featured/8093/mariners-confir
Lambert's employment contract is with the club, not Evans, so would still be valid. Just as well that's the law really, because otherwise if you were working for a company and it got bought out, you'd lose all your employment rights! [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 14:23]
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:17 - Feb 28 with 2024 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 11:31 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
Someone told me, not really much more I can say. No evidence of broken teacups, dents in walls etc. |
Broken noses? |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:18 - Feb 28 with 2022 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 12:56 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
Wouldn't surprise me at all if it was this week. |
You've been saying that for ages. | |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:28 - Feb 28 with 1969 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:20 - Feb 28 by wkj |
I'm curious if his flippant remarks about the takeover would be grounds for termination because of mishandling sensitive information? Surely there are some things that can trigger contract breaks without ramifications |
He has been careful to only say things that are already in the public domain albeit as speculation. He has not stated they are true but has clearly hinted towards them. It is important to note these are orchestrated remarks made in virtually the same words in 3 separate interviews. These are not slips of the tongue but carefully planned comments.
It is clear from his past that any dismissal would need an absolutely watertight case and he will pursue through the courts anything he is still owed. Ultimately, his pay off, however much it is, simply lowers the value of the club to new investors or comes from ME's investment. |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:29 - Feb 28 with 1969 views | PhilTWTD |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:18 - Feb 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
You've been saying that for ages. |
I've been saying it for about a week! |  | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:30 - Feb 28 with 1953 views | PhilTWTD |
I can't claim to have evidence of broken noses. | | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:32 - Feb 28 with 1930 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:30 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
I can't claim to have evidence of broken noses. |
Out of interest. Any idea if Evans was at PR Saturday? Having spent all Thursday and Friday there, I assumed he would also take in the game. | |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:03 - Feb 28 with 1818 views | longtimefan |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 12:56 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
Wouldn't surprise me at all if it was this week. |
Surely if a takeover is in the offering the last thing Evans would do now is sack on ‘his time’, making any payoff his responsibility financially. I’d have thought he’d leave things as they are and let the new owners deal with any payoff. | | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:11 - Feb 28 with 1760 views | clive_baker |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:22 - Feb 28 by Matt_Netherlands |
Lazy journalism....
Widely reported to be on £500k a year.
Signed a 5 year contract 12 months ago
4 years remaking x £500k = lazy Sun headline
I’d imagine the clause is something like 50% of remaining contract paid up, totalling no more than 12 months, in a sacking situation |
This.
The information in the public domain is his salary and length of the term, which would total circa £2m. As you say there are clauses in place that limit the payoff. It’ll be closer to 1 years salary than 4. |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:15 - Feb 28 with 1744 views | Dennyx4 |
The thing that irks me, is why does he say former Aston Villa manager - what has Aston Villa got to do with it.
Why not former Champions League Winner...... |  | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:36 - Feb 28 with 1689 views | Freddy |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:16 - Feb 28 by jayessess |
If Evans genuinely, genuinely, gave him 5 years contract with a "payment in full if terminated early" clause then he's an absolute dope and fully deserves the massive loss he's about to take on 13 years of investment. |
Was expecting it to be about 2m with no of years he has left | | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:38 - Feb 28 with 1686 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:30 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
I can't claim to have evidence of broken noses. |
What about broken hearts? | |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:38 - Feb 28 with 1684 views | Garv |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 13:21 - Feb 28 by BluedanW |
I'm sure there could be grounds for sacking without pay off after his attitude towards the fans, media and disrespect of the owner.
Slating his boss to the local radio is surely enough to sever any contract. Im sure Evans has decent lawyers.
Would a takeover make any current contracts void anyway?
I hope the new owners reward their new loyal fans who have been funding the club during lock down. Not waste money paying off an under achieving fool. |
What has his attitude been towards the fans?
There's obviously a rift between him and the media, but I don't recall him hitting out at fans? Unless we're grouping the likes of the EADT with the fan base because they 'represent' the fan base? |  |
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:43 - Feb 28 with 1663 views | DanTheMan |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:38 - Feb 28 by Garv |
What has his attitude been towards the fans?
There's obviously a rift between him and the media, but I don't recall him hitting out at fans? Unless we're grouping the likes of the EADT with the fan base because they 'represent' the fan base? |
Well he went on radio the other week and said Blue Action weren't real fans. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 15:43]
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| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:47 - Feb 28 with 1647 views | ElderGrizzly |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:07 - Feb 28 by J2BLUE |
Thank fook, we can now relax safe in the knowledge that it's BS. |
Yeah, f8ck off.. :)
£500k is reported pretty much everywhere and another good source quoted Lambert as being on 3x the next highest salary which was £180k.
He won't get it though. It's just a stand-off now. |  | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:56 - Feb 28 with 1617 views | PhilTWTD |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 14:32 - Feb 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Out of interest. Any idea if Evans was at PR Saturday? Having spent all Thursday and Friday there, I assumed he would also take in the game. |
Not aware that he was. | | | |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 16:02 - Feb 28 with 1574 views | BryanPlug |
| 2m to pay off Lambert... on 15:56 - Feb 28 by PhilTWTD |
Not aware that he was. |
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