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National football rivalries. 09:52 - Jun 18 with 3798 viewsMattinLondon

What with England playing Scotland tonight just wondered if the vast majority (English fans at least) still consider Scotland to be their greatest rivals?

For me, it’ll be good to beat Scotland in a traditional derby sense but Argentina are the team that I want to see England humiliate. I love Argentina as a country, their fans are magnificent, but they’re national team…no.
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National football rivalries. on 09:56 - Jun 18 with 3165 viewsSaigonTractor

I get the sense a lot of English fans still consider Germany the "big" rival, despite the Germans not really caring.
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National football rivalries. on 09:57 - Jun 18 with 3150 viewsMattinLondon

National football rivalries. on 09:56 - Jun 18 by SaigonTractor

I get the sense a lot of English fans still consider Germany the "big" rival, despite the Germans not really caring.


They really don’t - it’s all about Holland to most German fans.

Think France hold England up quite highly in terms of rivalry.
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National football rivalries. on 10:00 - Jun 18 with 3134 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Scotland are the biggest for me, mainly due to knowing a few Scots and the fear of losing.

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National football rivalries. on 10:01 - Jun 18 with 3125 viewsSuperblue95

National football rivalries. on 09:57 - Jun 18 by MattinLondon

They really don’t - it’s all about Holland to most German fans.

Think France hold England up quite highly in terms of rivalry.


Given England are a pretty disliked country globally I’d say a lot of countries quite like the thought of getting one over on us.

Luckily for them they often do

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National football rivalries. on 10:02 - Jun 18 with 3119 viewsSarge

National football rivalries. on 09:56 - Jun 18 by SaigonTractor

I get the sense a lot of English fans still consider Germany the "big" rival, despite the Germans not really caring.


I think the same is true of Scotland-England. The rivalry is stronger on the Scottish side because we’ve only played Scotland a handful of times in my lifetime, always in friendlies and I’ve never really cared about beating them.

For me Portugal is the one that evokes the biggest feeling of rivals because of the quarter finals of 2004 and 2006.
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National football rivalries. on 10:02 - Jun 18 with 3114 viewsbelgablue

National football rivalries. on 09:57 - Jun 18 by MattinLondon

They really don’t - it’s all about Holland to most German fans.

Think France hold England up quite highly in terms of rivalry.


Yeah I think the French also have an eye on Italy most of the time.

Croatia v Serbia and Egypt v Algeria are pretty tasty rivalries I think.

Personally I love beating Argentina, the game in 2005(I think) when Owen scored 2 in injury time to win 3-2 was sensational.

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National football rivalries. on 10:07 - Jun 18 with 3099 viewsNW10_Tractor

The Republic of Ireland don't really like England -

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National football rivalries. on 10:10 - Jun 18 with 3085 viewsSouperJim

National football rivalries. on 10:02 - Jun 18 by Sarge

I think the same is true of Scotland-England. The rivalry is stronger on the Scottish side because we’ve only played Scotland a handful of times in my lifetime, always in friendlies and I’ve never really cared about beating them.

For me Portugal is the one that evokes the biggest feeling of rivals because of the quarter finals of 2004 and 2006.


I'd love to see us smash Portugal, my hatred for that winker Ronaldo still burns brightly.

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National football rivalries. on 10:16 - Jun 18 with 3073 viewsSaigonTractor

National football rivalries. on 10:02 - Jun 18 by Sarge

I think the same is true of Scotland-England. The rivalry is stronger on the Scottish side because we’ve only played Scotland a handful of times in my lifetime, always in friendlies and I’ve never really cared about beating them.

For me Portugal is the one that evokes the biggest feeling of rivals because of the quarter finals of 2004 and 2006.


I guess it varies person to person, I would agree with Portugal though. Ronaldo's wink taught me what it meant to hate as a young boy.
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National football rivalries. on 10:18 - Jun 18 with 3063 viewschicoazul

National football rivalries. on 09:57 - Jun 18 by MattinLondon

They really don’t - it’s all about Holland to most German fans.

Think France hold England up quite highly in terms of rivalry.


Their main football rival is Italy.

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National football rivalries. on 10:19 - Jun 18 with 3059 viewschicoazul

One of the great pleasure of being English is how much so many other nations hate our guts for varying reasons. But for me it’s Scotland all day as the main rival.

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National football rivalries. on 10:21 - Jun 18 with 3035 views26_Paz

France is the biggest one for me

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National football rivalries. on 10:38 - Jun 18 with 3003 viewsBasingstokeBlue

National football rivalries. on 10:19 - Jun 18 by chicoazul

One of the great pleasure of being English is how much so many other nations hate our guts for varying reasons. But for me it’s Scotland all day as the main rival.


The Germans?

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National football rivalries. on 10:47 - Jun 18 with 2984 viewsMattinLondon

National football rivalries. on 10:18 - Jun 18 by chicoazul

Their main football rival is Italy.


Never knew that.
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National football rivalries. on 10:47 - Jun 18 with 2984 viewsWeWereZombies

El Salvador and Honduras:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

It's not like England and Scotland have ever gone to war with each other, is it?

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National football rivalries. on 10:54 - Jun 18 with 2967 viewshomer_123

National football rivalries. on 10:07 - Jun 18 by NW10_Tractor

The Republic of Ireland don't really like England -


England is the Leeds of international football....no one likes us.

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National football rivalries. on 11:02 - Jun 18 with 2947 viewshype313

National football rivalries. on 10:54 - Jun 18 by homer_123

England is the Leeds of international football....no one likes us.


Shouldn't that be Millwall?

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National football rivalries. on 11:03 - Jun 18 with 2945 viewshype313

National football rivalries. on 10:02 - Jun 18 by Sarge

I think the same is true of Scotland-England. The rivalry is stronger on the Scottish side because we’ve only played Scotland a handful of times in my lifetime, always in friendlies and I’ve never really cared about beating them.

For me Portugal is the one that evokes the biggest feeling of rivals because of the quarter finals of 2004 and 2006.


The Scotland England rivalry is like us and Col U.

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National football rivalries. on 11:10 - Jun 18 with 2929 viewsFrankfurtBlue

National football rivalries. on 09:57 - Jun 18 by MattinLondon

They really don’t - it’s all about Holland to most German fans.

Think France hold England up quite highly in terms of rivalry.


German fans do have an ongoing rivalry with Holland, but England and, more in terms of rivalry on the field, Italy are up there too.

Argentina have a "special" rivalry with England that goes deeper than football. I was at a WC qualifier in BA against Chile a few years ago, and those two sets of fans hate each other. The Chileans were bussed in and out of the stadium surrounded by heavily armed police. Anyway, a couple of times during the game and without any reason or provocation, the Argies start singing, "El que no salta es un Inglés" (he who is not jumping is English). Everyone in El Monumental jumped, apart from me and the Chileans.
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National football rivalries. on 11:13 - Jun 18 with 2919 viewshype313

National football rivalries. on 11:10 - Jun 18 by FrankfurtBlue

German fans do have an ongoing rivalry with Holland, but England and, more in terms of rivalry on the field, Italy are up there too.

Argentina have a "special" rivalry with England that goes deeper than football. I was at a WC qualifier in BA against Chile a few years ago, and those two sets of fans hate each other. The Chileans were bussed in and out of the stadium surrounded by heavily armed police. Anyway, a couple of times during the game and without any reason or provocation, the Argies start singing, "El que no salta es un Inglés" (he who is not jumping is English). Everyone in El Monumental jumped, apart from me and the Chileans.


The rivalries are more political than anything else, The Argies don't like us due to the Falklands, the Dutch detest the Germans cause they stole their bikes in the War and the Irish don't like us for a plethora of reasons going back 100 years.

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National football rivalries. on 11:13 - Jun 18 with 2919 viewsipswich78

I always like to see the home nations do well as long as England do better!

It's nice to beat Scotland, but I want to beat them only because their fans will bang on about it for ages.

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National football rivalries. on 11:19 - Jun 18 with 2905 viewsfooters

National football rivalries. on 11:13 - Jun 18 by hype313

The rivalries are more political than anything else, The Argies don't like us due to the Falklands, the Dutch detest the Germans cause they stole their bikes in the War and the Irish don't like us for a plethora of reasons going back 100 years.


I usually follow Ireland whenever they qualify and maybe there's a little needle with England but otherwise the 'We're just here for the beers' attitude is a great one that more football fans should have - makes the tournaments a lot more enjoyable.

The England-Germany non-reciprocal thing is just embarrassing.

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National football rivalries. on 11:26 - Jun 18 with 2892 viewsHARRY10

National football rivalries. on 11:03 - Jun 18 by hype313

The Scotland England rivalry is like us and Col U.


There is a far greater importance placed on this game by those north of the border than ever there is down here. As PG Wodehouse wrote

"It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine."

We happen to be the most obvious target to vent that long held and nursed national grievance.

Otherwise, I do not believe there is anything in any national football rivalries that are not simply emneties between countries manifest on the pitch.
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National football rivalries. on 11:27 - Jun 18 with 2889 viewsTangledupin_Blue

National football rivalries. on 09:56 - Jun 18 by SaigonTractor

I get the sense a lot of English fans still consider Germany the "big" rival, despite the Germans not really caring.


As in:
Ipswich = Germany, Colchester = England


Similarly:
Ipswich = England, Colchester = Scotland

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National football rivalries. on 11:35 - Jun 18 with 2863 viewsBlueastheycome

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