| July 19th 11:41 - Jul 1 with 3516 views | hype313 |
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| July 19th on 11:42 - Jul 1 with 2096 views | footers |
What could possibly go wrong. |  |
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| July 19th on 11:46 - Jul 1 with 2071 views | Mookamoo |
| July 19th on 11:42 - Jul 1 by footers |
What could possibly go wrong. |
At least we get to know what 'E' is in the Greek alphabet |  | | |
| July 19th on 11:48 - Jul 1 with 2052 views | pointofblue |
| July 19th on 11:42 - Jul 1 by footers |
What could possibly go wrong. |
To be fair they will come a time where we have to live with it. The question is is this too soon? I suppose we’re going to find out. |  |
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| July 19th on 11:48 - Jul 1 with 2050 views | Steve_M |
This is part of the inter-Tory struggle over covid rather than a definitive position though isn't it? I know throughout the biggest public health crisis in decades the government has preferred to leak to favoured journalists but they're still arguing amongst themselves at the moment.
The downside of Hancock going was he was at least prepared to lobby for the public health angle. There's a lot of covid still about, a lot of people who don't yet have immunity from vaccines and this seems entirely politically, rather than data, driven. |  |
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| July 19th on 11:49 - Jul 1 with 2032 views | footers |
| July 19th on 11:46 - Jul 1 by Mookamoo |
At least we get to know what 'E' is in the Greek alphabet |
Oops-ilon? | |
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| July 19th on 11:55 - Jul 1 with 2012 views | Swansea_Blue |
Cases rising quickly, hospital admissions rising, mortality rising. Combined with not enough vaccinations to give population immunity (they need about 85% full coverage I think, which couldn't be achieved without vaccinating a decent %age of kids, which isn't planned).
Doesn't seem like the most sensible approach in my (unqualified) opinion.
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| July 19th on 11:59 - Jul 1 with 1978 views | lowhouseblue |
| July 19th on 11:42 - Jul 1 by footers |
What could possibly go wrong. |
in the end we have always lived with a contagious virus which has a low, but definitely non-zero, mortality rate concentrated on the elderly and otherwise unwell. when the epidemiological characteristics for covid and flu are about the same (and the vaccine is moving us there) we have to treat the two the same.
having said that, hands, face space and not going into work / socialising when you're ill is now a habit to a greater extent than ever before - so the future infectivity of flu may also be reduced. |  |
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| July 19th on 12:00 - Jul 1 with 1986 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| July 19th on 11:55 - Jul 1 by Swansea_Blue |
Cases rising quickly, hospital admissions rising, mortality rising. Combined with not enough vaccinations to give population immunity (they need about 85% full coverage I think, which couldn't be achieved without vaccinating a decent %age of kids, which isn't planned).
Doesn't seem like the most sensible approach in my (unqualified) opinion.
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As much as I have posted on here in the past about things like not wanting to wear masks for a second longer, if this is a political rather than scientific decision then it is further proof that the government are total t0sspost w4nkers.
Removing all restrictions too soon and unsensibly is just going to end up with us going back to a full-on lockdown in the winter months, and everyone's life being put on hold again.
Still, at least in such a case the government can still tell us that they tried to return things to normality, thus continuing to please those of the public whose views cannot be waived. |  |
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| July 19th on 12:12 - Jul 1 with 1910 views | bracknell_blue |
| July 19th on 12:00 - Jul 1 by ThisIsMyUsername |
As much as I have posted on here in the past about things like not wanting to wear masks for a second longer, if this is a political rather than scientific decision then it is further proof that the government are total t0sspost w4nkers.
Removing all restrictions too soon and unsensibly is just going to end up with us going back to a full-on lockdown in the winter months, and everyone's life being put on hold again.
Still, at least in such a case the government can still tell us that they tried to return things to normality, thus continuing to please those of the public whose views cannot be waived. |
The devil here is in the detail. Hospital admissions are not rising anywhere as steeply as infections, although would be good to know how many are in ITU. Deaths are still low and hardly rising at all - actually flat within statistical error. More vulnerable groups (e.g. over 60s) low infection rate increase, largest rate amongst 20-39s, then teenagers. Those who can weather COVID best. The symptoms being touted at the moment sound like a nasty cold - and there's plenty of those about anyway. I suppoprted all previous lockdowns - should have sooner and much more enforced. But this situation, despite the headline numbers, is different. Many people double vaccinated and it is working at least as well as predicted, remembering no vaccination is 100% effective.
We do have to live with COVID, like we live with flu and other infections. If you haven't been vaccinated but could have been, do it now, it is so selfish not to, as you can infect others. Booster programme in the autumn is coming plus tweaks for new variants which may be able to evade the vaccines more. And, I know this sounds draconina, we MUSt vaccinated schoolkids. I can rmember, aged 6, having to be vaccinated against smallpox. No choice in the matter. Not a problem. |  |
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| July 19th on 12:15 - Jul 1 with 1868 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| July 19th on 11:42 - Jul 1 by footers |
What could possibly go wrong. |
What would you suggest Footers - just asking so as to clarify if you agreed with the post or not for future reference! | | | |
| July 19th on 12:16 - Jul 1 with 1881 views | WD19 |
| July 19th on 11:48 - Jul 1 by Steve_M |
This is part of the inter-Tory struggle over covid rather than a definitive position though isn't it? I know throughout the biggest public health crisis in decades the government has preferred to leak to favoured journalists but they're still arguing amongst themselves at the moment.
The downside of Hancock going was he was at least prepared to lobby for the public health angle. There's a lot of covid still about, a lot of people who don't yet have immunity from vaccines and this seems entirely politically, rather than data, driven. |
Yep. Has been very noticeable just in the space of a couple of days how much the public health angle has gone in the bin at the heart of government. |  | | |
| July 19th on 12:20 - Jul 1 with 1864 views | Dubtractor |
I'm going to be a bit of a guinea pig in a few weeks. Have tickets to latitude festival which us def going ahead at full capacity as a test event.
Will have had my second jab by then, albeit only a week before. |  |
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| July 19th on 12:22 - Jul 1 with 1834 views | jeera |
| July 19th on 11:48 - Jul 1 by pointofblue |
To be fair they will come a time where we have to live with it. The question is is this too soon? I suppose we’re going to find out. |
But I liked that I had an excuse to keep people a good metre or so away.
I hate those who creep right up to talk to you in your own space.
A metre or two is just about right thanks. |  |
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| July 19th on 12:31 - Jul 1 with 1782 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| July 19th on 12:15 - Jul 1 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
What would you suggest Footers - just asking so as to clarify if you agreed with the post or not for future reference! |
The sealion has arrived! |  |
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| July 19th on 12:36 - Jul 1 with 1727 views | SWGF |
| July 19th on 12:20 - Jul 1 by Dubtractor |
I'm going to be a bit of a guinea pig in a few weeks. Have tickets to latitude festival which us def going ahead at full capacity as a test event.
Will have had my second jab by then, albeit only a week before. |
Lord's ODI is 100% on 10th |  |
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| July 19th on 12:40 - Jul 1 with 1703 views | Vaughan8 |
I might be in the minority (and yes i'm getting fed up with all the restrictions as well), but it seems a bit quick to just scrap everything.
At the moment, there isn't much that you're restricted to. Evertything is open (bar travel to other countries) and is wearing a mask in a shop etc really a massive issue?
I'm sure there are restrictions that don't affect me which I might not be aware of (i.e nursing homes etc), but as long as I can see my family and do things with my child, i'm not too disheartened by it currently.
I saw on the news yesterday that a disabled girl hasn't had much support for a year and a half and started to become depressed and I think they said harming herself. SHe was only about 10-12(?). For those people I can understand everything needs to get up and running again so they can get the necessary help.
As someone said above, I hope its based on the science. | | | |
| July 19th on 12:50 - Jul 1 with 1630 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| July 19th on 12:12 - Jul 1 by bracknell_blue |
The devil here is in the detail. Hospital admissions are not rising anywhere as steeply as infections, although would be good to know how many are in ITU. Deaths are still low and hardly rising at all - actually flat within statistical error. More vulnerable groups (e.g. over 60s) low infection rate increase, largest rate amongst 20-39s, then teenagers. Those who can weather COVID best. The symptoms being touted at the moment sound like a nasty cold - and there's plenty of those about anyway. I suppoprted all previous lockdowns - should have sooner and much more enforced. But this situation, despite the headline numbers, is different. Many people double vaccinated and it is working at least as well as predicted, remembering no vaccination is 100% effective.
We do have to live with COVID, like we live with flu and other infections. If you haven't been vaccinated but could have been, do it now, it is so selfish not to, as you can infect others. Booster programme in the autumn is coming plus tweaks for new variants which may be able to evade the vaccines more. And, I know this sounds draconina, we MUSt vaccinated schoolkids. I can rmember, aged 6, having to be vaccinated against smallpox. No choice in the matter. Not a problem. |
Informative. Thanks. | |
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| July 19th on 12:50 - Jul 1 with 1627 views | JakeITFC |
| July 19th on 12:36 - Jul 1 by SWGF |
Lord's ODI is 100% on 10th |
Is that confirmed now? Knew it was a test event but was awaiting confirmation of capacity to see if my ticket was still valid. |  | | |
| July 19th on 12:56 - Jul 1 with 1599 views | WeWereZombies |
| July 19th on 12:22 - Jul 1 by jeera |
But I liked that I had an excuse to keep people a good metre or so away.
I hate those who creep right up to talk to you in your own space.
A metre or two is just about right thanks. |
People who move in closer may be hard of hearing. |  |
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| July 19th on 13:01 - Jul 1 with 1582 views | Mookamoo |
| July 19th on 12:40 - Jul 1 by Vaughan8 |
I might be in the minority (and yes i'm getting fed up with all the restrictions as well), but it seems a bit quick to just scrap everything.
At the moment, there isn't much that you're restricted to. Evertything is open (bar travel to other countries) and is wearing a mask in a shop etc really a massive issue?
I'm sure there are restrictions that don't affect me which I might not be aware of (i.e nursing homes etc), but as long as I can see my family and do things with my child, i'm not too disheartened by it currently.
I saw on the news yesterday that a disabled girl hasn't had much support for a year and a half and started to become depressed and I think they said harming herself. SHe was only about 10-12(?). For those people I can understand everything needs to get up and running again so they can get the necessary help.
As someone said above, I hope its based on the science. |
Restrictions are affecting the young. My partner is a NHS Welling Therapist and they are seeing a marked increase in 16-25 year olds with new or worsening mental heath issues - mainly through a lack of support networks.
On the other hand though, they are also seeing loads of under 40s with Long Covid. The Long Term Conditions group she runs is now over half long covid patients. | | | |
| July 19th on 13:12 - Jul 1 with 1530 views | blue62 |
Happy Birthday me.
I do hope everyone is sensible, I think we have to ease restrictions or all hell will break loose. But as individuals, we have to take responsibility ourselves, if you want to wear a mask then do so, keep a safe distance from others then do that, if you don't want to be in large crowds then don't.
As others have said, we are going to have to live with this virus so get jabbed and be safe. |  | | |
| July 19th on 13:14 - Jul 1 with 1523 views | StokieBlue |
| July 19th on 13:12 - Jul 1 by blue62 |
Happy Birthday me.
I do hope everyone is sensible, I think we have to ease restrictions or all hell will break loose. But as individuals, we have to take responsibility ourselves, if you want to wear a mask then do so, keep a safe distance from others then do that, if you don't want to be in large crowds then don't.
As others have said, we are going to have to live with this virus so get jabbed and be safe. |
Whilst that is all good advice I suspect the first incident of someone being abused for continuing to wear a mask will occur about 5 minutes after the restriction is lifted.
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| July 19th on 13:14 - Jul 1 with 1513 views | Swansea_Blue |
| July 19th on 12:00 - Jul 1 by ThisIsMyUsername |
As much as I have posted on here in the past about things like not wanting to wear masks for a second longer, if this is a political rather than scientific decision then it is further proof that the government are total t0sspost w4nkers.
Removing all restrictions too soon and unsensibly is just going to end up with us going back to a full-on lockdown in the winter months, and everyone's life being put on hold again.
Still, at least in such a case the government can still tell us that they tried to return things to normality, thus continuing to please those of the public whose views cannot be waived. |
That's the danger isn't it. Things have already been worse than they needed to be due to their dithering, poor communication, not leading by example and general uselessness.
We all want to stop wearing these horrible masks and open up again, but letting it run rampant through those not yet vaccinated and kids doesn't seem to be the best course of action to achieve that.
If we have to just live with it, then the new normal needs to be a lot different to the old one at least until such time that kids are vaccinated (which doesn't seem likely to happen). | |
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| July 19th on 13:20 - Jul 1 with 1473 views | blue62 |
| July 19th on 13:14 - Jul 1 by StokieBlue |
Whilst that is all good advice I suspect the first incident of someone being abused for continuing to wear a mask will occur about 5 minutes after the restriction is lifted.
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Yes possibly true, but Asian countries have been wearing masks for years, for pollution mainly. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 13:30]
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