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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 17:51 - Jul 19 by DanTheMan
I'm confused, which religions would have an issue with the vaccines? I'm not aware of any that have had objections to it, at least among the Abrahamic religions and also Hinduism (I think).
I have no idea but I do know personally two people who are not having it for religious reasons.
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 18:05 - Jul 19 by XYZ
Which religion and how long have they followed it?
No idea sorry, I’m only that rude on here not IRL.
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 18:05 - Jul 19 by XYZ
Which religion and how long have they followed it?
Same question basically, saying you're not having it for "religious reasons" usually means there is either animal or human products contained within the vaccine(s) which is not the case as far as I'm aware.
This obviously won't be the case for all religions and sects, but I feel it's harsh to say that the Government is giving a big feck you to religious people when every major religion is pro-vaccination as far as I can see.
Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 18:07 - Jul 19 by DanTheMan
Same question basically, saying you're not having it for "religious reasons" usually means there is either animal or human products contained within the vaccine(s) which is not the case as far as I'm aware.
This obviously won't be the case for all religions and sects, but I feel it's harsh to say that the Government is giving a big feck you to religious people when every major religion is pro-vaccination as far as I can see.
I'm no follower of religions, but the scope for abuse here is obvious.
I don't go to church on Sundays for religious reasons.
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 18:07 - Jul 19 by DanTheMan
Same question basically, saying you're not having it for "religious reasons" usually means there is either animal or human products contained within the vaccine(s) which is not the case as far as I'm aware.
This obviously won't be the case for all religions and sects, but I feel it's harsh to say that the Government is giving a big feck you to religious people when every major religion is pro-vaccination as far as I can see.
Exactly.
Not every fringe belief system can be taken into account when making rules for 65m people.
Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 18:02 - Jul 19 by Illinoisblue
Oh boy, going to be chaos getting into grounds. Feel bad for the stewards who will have to police this. What a mess.
Ideally there would be away to digitally attach proof of 2 vaccinations to a season ticket/customer number so that you only have to check it once and not at the turnstile. I don’t know how the systems are configured though and if that’s possible.
I agree with this and it makes me feel more comfortable about things reopening. Not because I feel ‘unsafe’ but because I don’t want them to close again although I’m concerned they’ll be get another u-turn and they’ll bring the date forwards meaning I won’t be able to make the first month of the season.
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 17:57 - Jul 19 by BlueBadger
Ah, the now-traditional 'stuff that should have be in place before we lifted regulations'.
See also: functioning track and trace, mask wearing, competent government, actually valuing your key workers.
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I believe the next Government initiative to be delivered using the ABCD process, Arse Backward Considered Delivery, is a simple mechanism for verifying vaccine passports by venues.
Probably be available sometime in March, in one of the years coming soon.
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 17:38 - Jul 19 by StokieBlue
If it's needed from September why isn't it needed now?
I know not everyone is double-jabbed but if it's not safe to go without two jabs why are we opening up?
It's just another contradiction.
SB
It is needed in September as there will be less spare capacity in the NHS to deal with Covid than there is at the moment. Hospitals are often near full capacity in the winter due to annual respiratory infections etc.
It also allows time for those who want to go clubbing to get their second jab.
Like all of this, it is a balancing act, between opening the economy and protecting public health. One alternative could be to delay night club reopening to September, but that would be criticised too.
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 19:07 - Jul 19 by xrayspecs
It is needed in September as there will be less spare capacity in the NHS to deal with Covid than there is at the moment. Hospitals are often near full capacity in the winter due to annual respiratory infections etc.
It also allows time for those who want to go clubbing to get their second jab.
Like all of this, it is a balancing act, between opening the economy and protecting public health. One alternative could be to delay night club reopening to September, but that would be criticised too.
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That's not a scientific reason though, if there is a risk in September there is equal risk now. The rules will be the same and the variant will likely be the same.
You're basically saying it's fine to open up now and because the NHS has capacity not but later - that's not ideal for the people who end up in hospital before September.
Let's just finally put to bed that the government are actually using the science and the data.
SB
SB - (not Simon Batford)
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Govt just announced vaccine 'passports' needed from September on 19:10 - Jul 19 by StokieBlue
That's not a scientific reason though, if there is a risk in September there is equal risk now. The rules will be the same and the variant will likely be the same.
You're basically saying it's fine to open up now and because the NHS has capacity not but later - that's not ideal for the people who end up in hospital before September.
Let's just finally put to bed that the government are actually using the science and the data.
SB
That is literally the Govt policy. The NHS (in their view) can cope now but not later.
That is their data.
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