| Attn: cyclists on 16:15 - Jul 29 with 702 views | GeoffSentence |
| Attn: cyclists on 14:02 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Purely apocryphally on my part I’d say cyclists are much much worse for this behaviour. I’ve seen them do it many times at pedestrian crossings too. |
Cyclists are freer to do it because they can nip round traffic, some motorists who would otherwise do it have no choice but to stop behind decent law abiding people.
On the other hand there are lot more cars on the roads so probably a lot more cars jumping red lights overall. Certainly in Ipswich, you only need to sit at the West End Road lights for a few minutes to see more cars jumping the lights than there are cyclists in total. |  |
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| Attn: cyclists on 16:16 - Jul 29 with 700 views | chicoazul |
| Attn: cyclists on 15:54 - Jul 29 by Triggs |
Haven't you been banned after your disgusting post this morning (now fortunately removed), you vile excuse for a human being |
Definitely a cyclist. |  |
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| Attn: cyclists on 16:20 - Jul 29 with 681 views | chicoazul |
| Attn: cyclists on 16:15 - Jul 29 by GeoffSentence |
Cyclists are freer to do it because they can nip round traffic, some motorists who would otherwise do it have no choice but to stop behind decent law abiding people.
On the other hand there are lot more cars on the roads so probably a lot more cars jumping red lights overall. Certainly in Ipswich, you only need to sit at the West End Road lights for a few minutes to see more cars jumping the lights than there are cyclists in total. |
The whole point is they are not free to do it at all. Red lights apply to them. | |
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| Attn: cyclists on 16:46 - Jul 29 with 645 views | solemio |
| Attn: cyclists on 14:09 - Jul 29 by gordon |
A pedestrian is about 60 times more likely (in the UK, 2019 figures) to be killed by a car than a bicycle. [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 14:09]
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That is not great consolation to friends and relatives of a person killed by a cyclist ignoring lights. |  | | |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:02 - Jul 29 with 629 views | MattinLondon |
| Attn: cyclists on 16:16 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Definitely a cyclist. |
What was the post? |  | | |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:12 - Jul 29 with 617 views | chicoazul |
Weird to think people would down vote the OP. Maybe they’re in favour of people being hit and killed by cyclists. | |
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| Attn: cyclists on 17:12 - Jul 29 with 615 views | MattinLondon |
Do you think there’s a case to introduce a new sort of traffics light (sort of an added filter light) to allow cyclists a few seconds head-start on cars at busy junctions? | | | |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:18 - Jul 29 with 599 views | LeoMuff |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:12 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Weird to think people would down vote the OP. Maybe they’re in favour of people being hit and killed by cyclists. |
In my experience as a driver and cyclist I could count on one hand the cyclists I’ve seen behaving like nobs, yet I witness probably 10 or more drivers behaving like nobs daily.
As others have said your anger should be directed towards 4 wheels not 2,and I would not be surprised if the amount of pedestrians killed by cyclists in history is probably less than are killed by cars in one week in the Uk. |  |
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| Attn: cyclists on 17:19 - Jul 29 with 596 views | TrumptonBlue |
| Attn: cyclists on 16:46 - Jul 29 by solemio |
That is not great consolation to friends and relatives of a person killed by a cyclist ignoring lights. |
I doubt it was meant to be.
Statistics are quite hard to find on this, but a TFL survey from around a decade ago showed that of pedestrian injuries caused by red-light jumping, 4% involved cyclists, 13% motorcyclists and 71% cars.
I don't approve of cyclists jumping red lights at all, and this case is a tragic consequence of a cyclist's highly irresponsible actions. But it's news because it's so rare. There were 470 pedestrian road deaths in 2019. The overwhelming majority of those were killed by motorists. |  | | |
| "Yeah but cars". (n/t) on 17:20 - Jul 29 with 591 views | Bloots |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:12 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Weird to think people would down vote the OP. Maybe they’re in favour of people being hit and killed by cyclists. |
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| Attn: cyclists on 17:25 - Jul 29 with 577 views | chicoazul |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:18 - Jul 29 by LeoMuff |
In my experience as a driver and cyclist I could count on one hand the cyclists I’ve seen behaving like nobs, yet I witness probably 10 or more drivers behaving like nobs daily.
As others have said your anger should be directed towards 4 wheels not 2,and I would not be surprised if the amount of pedestrians killed by cyclists in history is probably less than are killed by cars in one week in the Uk. |
Maybe other people have different experiences from you and think you’re wrong? But that still doesn’t explain why people would downvote a post about the tragic death of an innocent man caused by a cyclist. | |
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| "Yeah but cars". (n/t) on 17:28 - Jul 29 with 555 views | chicoazul |
| "Yeah but cars". (n/t) on 17:20 - Jul 29 by Bloots |
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“Well actually what you should be angry about is this non sequitur I have chosen to shoehorn into the conversation “ | |
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| Attn: cyclists on 17:30 - Jul 29 with 547 views | MattinLondon |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:25 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Maybe other people have different experiences from you and think you’re wrong? But that still doesn’t explain why people would downvote a post about the tragic death of an innocent man caused by a cyclist. |
Your title sort of carpet bombed all cyclists as people who go through red lights and then you labelled them all pricks. Sort of comes across as you’re using this tragic death as a way to push forward your views on cyclists.
Maybe be a tad more diplomatic- If you routinely go through red lights please think again - something like that. Also, some cyclists don’t like criticism - not all, but some are incredibly thin skinned. | | | |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:32 - Jul 29 with 540 views | BelsteadCav |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:25 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Maybe other people have different experiences from you and think you’re wrong? But that still doesn’t explain why people would downvote a post about the tragic death of an innocent man caused by a cyclist. |
They’re down voting the post, because you called cyclists pricks.
No one wants to see someone killed, by bus car or bike [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 17:33]
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| Attn: cyclists on 17:33 - Jul 29 with 536 views | TrumptonBlue |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:25 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Maybe other people have different experiences from you and think you’re wrong? But that still doesn’t explain why people would downvote a post about the tragic death of an innocent man caused by a cyclist. |
Upvoting a post about the tragic death of an innocent man caused by a cyclist is even more peculiar, I'd have thought.
Maybe - just maybe - that isn't the part of your post that people are voting about. | | | |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:39 - Jul 29 with 518 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Attn: cyclists on 14:03 - Jul 29 by Lesta_Tractor |
As a cyclist seeing other cyclists jump red lights really pees me off
I know clipping out can be annoying and we all like to smash the occasional strava segment but there really isn't any excuse for it |
The one that’s just been jailed didn’t look like the clipping in/out sort. Having cycled in clubs, I suspect this sort of disregard for road signals is far more prevalent in casual cyclists and commuters. Just a hunch based on club rides I’ve done/seen and the types who try to run me down when I visit the big smoke. |  |
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| Attn: cyclists on 17:47 - Jul 29 with 496 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attn: cyclists on 13:58 - Jul 29 by Cotty |
Also see motorists. Kid knocked down and killed near me recently by a car going through a red light. It really doesn't make a difference what vehicle people are using, some people are just pricks. |
As a cyclist myself, I see far more fellow cyclists jump red lights than I do car drivers. |  |
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| Attn: car drivers ! on 18:00 - Jul 29 with 473 views | ArnieM |
Maybe car drivers could consider giving cyclists as much room as a parked vehicle when they pass them too ?! [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 18:00]
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| Attn: cyclists on 18:02 - Jul 29 with 468 views | witchdoctor |
| Attn: cyclists on 15:54 - Jul 29 by Triggs |
Haven't you been banned after your disgusting post this morning (now fortunately removed), you vile excuse for a human being |
alt alert….🤣🤣🤣🤣 |  | | |
| Attn: car drivers ! on 18:02 - Jul 29 with 465 views | MattinLondon |
| Attn: car drivers ! on 18:00 - Jul 29 by ArnieM |
Maybe car drivers could consider giving cyclists as much room as a parked vehicle when they pass them too ?! [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 18:00]
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Kinda hard to do that in built up areas where roads tend to be narrower. | | | |
| Attn: cyclists on 18:07 - Jul 29 with 450 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:12 - Jul 29 by chicoazul |
Weird to think people would down vote the OP. Maybe they’re in favour of people being hit and killed by cyclists. |
It might be more to do with you calling cyclists pricks. Or maybe people would've been less triggered if your title had been "Attn: People jumping red lights.' |  |
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| Attn: cyclists on 18:08 - Jul 29 with 442 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:12 - Jul 29 by MattinLondon |
Do you think there’s a case to introduce a new sort of traffics light (sort of an added filter light) to allow cyclists a few seconds head-start on cars at busy junctions? |
There are several of these in London already. | |
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| Attn: cyclists on 18:26 - Jul 29 with 426 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:32 - Jul 29 by BelsteadCav |
They’re down voting the post, because you called cyclists pricks.
No one wants to see someone killed, by bus car or bike [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 17:33]
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It's not difficult is it? | |
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| Attn: cyclists on 18:30 - Jul 29 with 421 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Attn: cyclists on 17:47 - Jul 29 by GlasgowBlue |
As a cyclist myself, I see far more fellow cyclists jump red lights than I do car drivers. |
For the umpteenth time, that's largely because car drivers can't get away with it. | |
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| Attn: cyclists on 18:35 - Jul 29 with 408 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attn: cyclists on 18:30 - Jul 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
For the umpteenth time, that's largely because car drivers can't get away with it. |
It maybe the umpteenth time for you my friend but that was my first reply to Cotty's post.
Next time I will remember to wade through several pages of a thread before commenting on the second post in it.
Now if everyone did that, then all threads would consist of one op, one comment and one reply. We could all then get on with other things. [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 18:39]
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