| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners 14:33 - Aug 9 with 3566 views | The_Romford_Blue |
We’ve hit the jackpot with these Americans haven’t we. They’re class |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:41 - Aug 9 with 2732 views | Herbivore |
Can't underestimate the value of having a proper structure in place. For all of Portsmouth's bleating we haven't spent huge sums, and once Downes goes I expect we'll be in profit in terms of net transfer spend. We will also have to be complying with financial fair play rules on salaries as well.
However, can you imagine ME managing to oversee this kind of squad overhaul? It's not the money, I suspect he could have afforded what we're doing now, but rather having people in place with the expertise to be able to make it happen. Ashton will have been working on players coming and going since he arrived more or less full time, probably working eye watering hours. If ME was still here he'd be trying to shoehorn a total rebuild in during his lunch breaks, maybe with a few phone calls at the weekend from the golf course.
It's night and day really. Obviously we need to see it translate into success on the pitch now but for the first time in over a decade the way the club is set up should create the conditions for success. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:44 - Aug 9 with 2692 views | RobTheMonk |
Remember when we signed Simon Dawkins to boost squad numbers...
This is the most excited I've been for a long time as a Town fan. Although the result wasn't what we wanted on Saturday, I enjoyed it and I can't remember the last time that happened.
I love that we've struggled with goals so we've gone and got shed loads of goalscorers all with different attributes. |  | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:46 - Aug 9 with 2657 views | ElderGrizzly |
The new owners have got proper football experience in across the club, rather than Evans appointing Clegg and Milne.
The money side, Evans backed us substantially when he arrived, as have the new owners given we are in L1.
With Downes going, we will probably have brought in more than we've spent on transfer fees too.
The big test for the new owners is what do we do if/when we get promoted to the Championship. How big do they go? |  | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:47 - Aug 9 with 2654 views | legoman |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:41 - Aug 9 by Herbivore |
Can't underestimate the value of having a proper structure in place. For all of Portsmouth's bleating we haven't spent huge sums, and once Downes goes I expect we'll be in profit in terms of net transfer spend. We will also have to be complying with financial fair play rules on salaries as well.
However, can you imagine ME managing to oversee this kind of squad overhaul? It's not the money, I suspect he could have afforded what we're doing now, but rather having people in place with the expertise to be able to make it happen. Ashton will have been working on players coming and going since he arrived more or less full time, probably working eye watering hours. If ME was still here he'd be trying to shoehorn a total rebuild in during his lunch breaks, maybe with a few phone calls at the weekend from the golf course.
It's night and day really. Obviously we need to see it translate into success on the pitch now but for the first time in over a decade the way the club is set up should create the conditions for success. |
This jackpot would not have arrived without Marcus, we would be dead and buried. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:54 - Aug 9 with 2585 views | Bluefish |
Why? What are you basing it on? Initial spending? Manager appointment?
The initial spending from Evans blows all out the water but keane wasted it horrifically. The Americans and Evans both agreed that Cook is the right appointment so no real difference there albeit Evans made multiple previous managerial errors.
The Americans are a breath of fresh air but so was Evans, we went out to buy the league back then in a higher league and it went horribly wrong. The Americans have got a long way to go to match the Evans spending but they have been correcting some of the missing parts in the backroom staff.
We shouldn't rewrite history in the excitement |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:06 - Aug 9 with 2499 views | Herbivore |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:47 - Aug 9 by legoman |
This jackpot would not have arrived without Marcus, we would be dead and buried. |
It's not really a jackpot, it's being a properly run football club. That was always in Evans' power. | |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:11 - Aug 9 with 2455 views | JDB23 |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:47 - Aug 9 by legoman |
This jackpot would not have arrived without Marcus, we would be dead and buried. |
We wouldn’t though, would we? Someone else would have taken over, there are no examples of any club our size folding. It may have gone even worse, a la Bolton, but even they are at the same level as us now. Let’s not hold ME too high just for doing the absolute minimum a club owner should do. | | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:11 - Aug 9 with 2453 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Surely nobody was happy with Evans.
Very pleased he’s done his diligence and sold us to somebody who invests in a football structure. Unlike Sheepy did of course. Evans could very easily have flogged us to the group that bought and stitched up Wigan etc. | | | |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:12 - Aug 9 with 2436 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:54 - Aug 9 by Bluefish |
Why? What are you basing it on? Initial spending? Manager appointment?
The initial spending from Evans blows all out the water but keane wasted it horrifically. The Americans and Evans both agreed that Cook is the right appointment so no real difference there albeit Evans made multiple previous managerial errors.
The Americans are a breath of fresh air but so was Evans, we went out to buy the league back then in a higher league and it went horribly wrong. The Americans have got a long way to go to match the Evans spending but they have been correcting some of the missing parts in the backroom staff.
We shouldn't rewrite history in the excitement |
Neither.
It’s the fact that the Americans have brought in people who know what they’re doing. Ashton doesn’t just say the right things like his predecessors (Clegg for example) but he does the right actions too. Add to that they’ve spent money on the right areas - the stadium for example.
Ashton himself said the state of the stadium was a joke. The Americans have cleaned the seats more in 2 months than Evans and his group did in 15 years.
We’re lucky to have them. Evans was bad for the club. He was killing it in many ways. So I’d have been happy with whoever bought us really. But that shouldn’t detract from the brilliant job that these lot are doing. Gamechanger are living up to their name. | |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:13 - Aug 9 with 2431 views | franz_tyson |
It’s not just throwing money at a problem. Lots of hard work and thought have gone into all of this. Very impressed so far…. but we still have to beat the likes of Morecambe:) | | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:16 - Aug 9 with 2395 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
We do seem to have hit the jackpot but it doesn't change the fact that there are even worse owners around than Evans. Anyone who had no concern that we could do worse would have to be very blinkered.
That said, for all the stagnation of the first decade or so of Evans, the past 3 years had seen the start of a real downward spiral. I cannot imagine that many still supported Evans by the time he sold up. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:20 - Aug 9 with 2338 views | braveblue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:47 - Aug 9 by legoman |
This jackpot would not have arrived without Marcus, we would be dead and buried. |
Don’t think so. We would have survived but on a budget. Could not have bern worse than the disaster Evans created. | | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:25 - Aug 9 with 2299 views | RegencyBlue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:47 - Aug 9 by legoman |
This jackpot would not have arrived without Marcus, we would be dead and buried. |
With Marcus for much longer we would definitely have been dead and buried!
The state he allowed this club to get into, on and off the pitch, was inexcusable. |  | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:41 - Aug 9 with 2175 views | Guthrum |
We have (so far) hit the jackpot. But we might so easily not have done, especially if Evans was less particular to whom he would sell. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:44 - Aug 9 with 2130 views | Herbivore |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:41 - Aug 9 by Guthrum |
We have (so far) hit the jackpot. But we might so easily not have done, especially if Evans was less particular to whom he would sell. |
That's a very good point, Guthers. It sounds as though he had offers over the years that he felt weren't right and he's waited until an offer has come in from a party that he feels will take the club forward and not jeopardise its future. He also wrote off £100m to make the deal happen. For that at least he deserves some credit. | |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:46 - Aug 9 with 2124 views | bluelagos |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:41 - Aug 9 by Guthrum |
We have (so far) hit the jackpot. But we might so easily not have done, especially if Evans was less particular to whom he would sell. |
"We have (so far) hit the jackpot."
How I see it. Going with a pension fund seems high risk to me. We have entered a high stakes game of poker and thus far have been dealt a pair of kings. Looks promising but no guarantees for me.
Fingers crossed our next cards are good ones too. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:49 - Aug 9 with 2076 views | hype313 |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 15:46 - Aug 9 by bluelagos |
"We have (so far) hit the jackpot."
How I see it. Going with a pension fund seems high risk to me. We have entered a high stakes game of poker and thus far have been dealt a pair of kings. Looks promising but no guarantees for me.
Fingers crossed our next cards are good ones too. |
Every time I get Kings, I get done with Bullitt's.
Obviously I'm keeping my excitement under control due to that. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:11 - Aug 9 with 1927 views | Churchman |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:47 - Aug 9 by legoman |
This jackpot would not have arrived without Marcus, we would be dead and buried. |
There is no basis for that statement at all. The club would have been bought by somebody else at some stage, even if Sheepshanks had lost his chance for a precious, prestigious, privileged job at the FA through the shame of a second Administration. Do you seriously think the club would have folded?
I don’t. Bury are the only club to go in years and they were not a club in the Championship with Ipswich’s heritage. Even if it had, do you not think a new club would have been formed and would have by now been at least where.we are - mid table League 1? I do.
Dear Marcus was a chancer. A quick buck via a promotion to the PL for a relatively low investment was the plan. He is not as bad as some of the a-holes that have bought football clubs, but he is no messiah.
Yes, the new owners carry a risk. There was no risk if Evans had stayed. The club was heading for the non leagues and worse. |  | | |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:16 - Aug 9 with 1871 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:11 - Aug 9 by Churchman |
There is no basis for that statement at all. The club would have been bought by somebody else at some stage, even if Sheepshanks had lost his chance for a precious, prestigious, privileged job at the FA through the shame of a second Administration. Do you seriously think the club would have folded?
I don’t. Bury are the only club to go in years and they were not a club in the Championship with Ipswich’s heritage. Even if it had, do you not think a new club would have been formed and would have by now been at least where.we are - mid table League 1? I do.
Dear Marcus was a chancer. A quick buck via a promotion to the PL for a relatively low investment was the plan. He is not as bad as some of the a-holes that have bought football clubs, but he is no messiah.
Yes, the new owners carry a risk. There was no risk if Evans had stayed. The club was heading for the non leagues and worse. |
Bury might have folded but Notts County and Bolton did far worse than us to name just two. | |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:19 - Aug 9 with 1848 views | Radlett_blue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:11 - Aug 9 by Churchman |
There is no basis for that statement at all. The club would have been bought by somebody else at some stage, even if Sheepshanks had lost his chance for a precious, prestigious, privileged job at the FA through the shame of a second Administration. Do you seriously think the club would have folded?
I don’t. Bury are the only club to go in years and they were not a club in the Championship with Ipswich’s heritage. Even if it had, do you not think a new club would have been formed and would have by now been at least where.we are - mid table League 1? I do.
Dear Marcus was a chancer. A quick buck via a promotion to the PL for a relatively low investment was the plan. He is not as bad as some of the a-holes that have bought football clubs, but he is no messiah.
Yes, the new owners carry a risk. There was no risk if Evans had stayed. The club was heading for the non leagues and worse. |
Indeed, while we thought we had hit the jackpot at the time with Evans, the idea that he "saved the club" is fanciful. At the time, we had got our wage bill right down & could have continued as a middling 2nd tier club. The external debt could have been negotiated down again, as Evans did. We would have ultimately struggled as costs rose in the 2nd tier but no more than other similarly sized clubs and yes, if Evans hadn't bought Town, someone else would have done so. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:22 - Aug 9 with 1825 views | BryanPlug |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:24 - Aug 9 with 1797 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:22 - Aug 9 by BryanPlug |
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Wrong. It is the most exciting time since we had a play-off semi final in the Championship, or since we were top of the Championship in January, or since Evans took over. The potential for this to be more successful than those things is there but at the moment we have achieved nothing and it is just potential. | |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:27 - Aug 9 with 1778 views | noggin |
We had the best squad in the league according to quite a few on here. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:29 - Aug 9 with 1772 views | Kropotkin123 |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 14:41 - Aug 9 by Herbivore |
Can't underestimate the value of having a proper structure in place. For all of Portsmouth's bleating we haven't spent huge sums, and once Downes goes I expect we'll be in profit in terms of net transfer spend. We will also have to be complying with financial fair play rules on salaries as well.
However, can you imagine ME managing to oversee this kind of squad overhaul? It's not the money, I suspect he could have afforded what we're doing now, but rather having people in place with the expertise to be able to make it happen. Ashton will have been working on players coming and going since he arrived more or less full time, probably working eye watering hours. If ME was still here he'd be trying to shoehorn a total rebuild in during his lunch breaks, maybe with a few phone calls at the weekend from the golf course.
It's night and day really. Obviously we need to see it translate into success on the pitch now but for the first time in over a decade the way the club is set up should create the conditions for success. |
Exactly, I'm feeling pretty vindicated regarding moaning about the lack of a structure over the past 2 years. Sure others are too. Let's hope all this positivity can translate onto the pitch. |  |
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| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:30 - Aug 9 with 1756 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| And to think some were happy with Evans rather than the risk of new owners on 16:27 - Aug 9 by noggin |
We had the best squad in the league according to quite a few on here. |
And according to the way they performed for half of each of the seasons they played at this level.
I still believe it was the best squad in terms of talent. It was badly managed and everything off the pitch to support it was so badly wrong it ultimately never stood a chance. | |
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