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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. 08:04 - Aug 11 with 9930 viewsnoggin

Fookin depressing.

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I think you mean "bugbear"..... on 13:34 - Aug 11 with 1635 viewsBloots

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:00 - Aug 11 by itfcsuth

Let's not be calling other teams minnows - screams of arrogance and lacks respect.

Apologises, but it is big bug bearer of mine.
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...apologies, but the incorrect use/spelling of bugbear is a big bugbear of mine.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:35 - Aug 11 with 1635 viewsMach_foreignBlue

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:24 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

Our record against the minnows in this league was actually pretty good under Lambert, it was the top 8-9 we couldn't get a result against.


Lambert though was still 100% at fault for any wrong-doings in the opinion of some fans. Yes he was terrible but so was that squad he had. That team and its stinking attitude. Both the manager and players had been sharing the blame.

Fortunately Lambert had left and Cook got rid of those slackers. We have a new era, we need to give the manager and players the time but some 'fans' don't seem to understand it.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:35 - Aug 11 with 1627 viewschicoazul

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 11:14 - Aug 11 by textbackup

Behave norwich boy


True though. You hung on their every word and got narky whenever anyone questioned them, just like now.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:55 - Aug 11 with 1588 viewsitfcjoe

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:35 - Aug 11 by Mach_foreignBlue

Lambert though was still 100% at fault for any wrong-doings in the opinion of some fans. Yes he was terrible but so was that squad he had. That team and its stinking attitude. Both the manager and players had been sharing the blame.

Fortunately Lambert had left and Cook got rid of those slackers. We have a new era, we need to give the manager and players the time but some 'fans' don't seem to understand it.


Lambert was an utter disgrace of a manager, he gave up, and sucked the life out of the squad as much as he did the fan base. That Evans allowed him to start last season showed how much ambition he had to turn things round.

The squad put a few decent reuslt together under Gill, Cook came in and told them that the performances were rubbish and dented their collective confidences again - he got it wrong and cost us a shot at the play offs.

But, had we made the play offs Evans would probably still be in charge and things wouldn't be as exciting as they are now currently - so we end up in a better place.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:08 - Aug 11 with 1546 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 09:19 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

I thought Saturday was a fairly ropey display to be honest against a Morecambe side who will very likely finish bottom 2. They were blooding as many new players as we were. I thought Harper and Evans were good but that aside it wasn't great. Last night is tough to read much into given the number of changes, but losing to Newport youth team is a poor show whatever the mitigation. Expressing this is described by some as flouncing. A few people lost their head that I wasn't massively excited by our not very good performance and result against Morecambe, which was bizarre.

We should be wanting better. I'm sure Cook and the new owners want better. The shouting down of any questioning or criticism is quite tiresome and I'm seeing WAY more of that happening on here than I am people genuinely turning on Cook.


You keep saying the Newport youth team despite the fact that most of our squad was youths. Why do you continue to try to paint things in the worst light possible?

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:11 - Aug 11 with 1537 viewsVic

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:08 - Aug 11 by The_Flashing_Smile

You keep saying the Newport youth team despite the fact that most of our squad was youths. Why do you continue to try to paint things in the worst light possible?


Do you disagree that our 2nd 11 should beat their youths (2nd 11)?

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:44 - Aug 11 with 1482 viewsjaykay

i get this. people were moaning that he should have played more or less the team we had out on saturday. i can guarantee you, if harper .evans etc had played , and been injured , meaning they were out for a few weeks, they would been the first to post up in arms. saying he should have never played them in a nothing cup.
plus he got to look at his new signings and also the young ones.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:56 - Aug 11 with 1455 viewstimothyeo

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:44 - Aug 11 by jaykay

i get this. people were moaning that he should have played more or less the team we had out on saturday. i can guarantee you, if harper .evans etc had played , and been injured , meaning they were out for a few weeks, they would been the first to post up in arms. saying he should have never played them in a nothing cup.
plus he got to look at his new signings and also the young ones.


That's fine, but in which case don't patronise fans by asking for time for the team to gel if you're not going to do everything possible to make that happen.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:19 - Aug 11 with 1439 viewsMach_foreignBlue

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 13:55 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

Lambert was an utter disgrace of a manager, he gave up, and sucked the life out of the squad as much as he did the fan base. That Evans allowed him to start last season showed how much ambition he had to turn things round.

The squad put a few decent reuslt together under Gill, Cook came in and told them that the performances were rubbish and dented their collective confidences again - he got it wrong and cost us a shot at the play offs.

But, had we made the play offs Evans would probably still be in charge and things wouldn't be as exciting as they are now currently - so we end up in a better place.


Cook dented their collective confidence OMFG !!!

There we go Lets blame manager game while slobbering over that squad that was dismantled by Cook after last season

So:
Hurst was a disgrace
Lambert was a disgrace
Cook dented their confidence and cost us the play-offs
The players? That's what I said before that is having been indulged and treated like angels and sacred cows while any wrongdoings were the managers fault.

We know that you have been feeling emotionally attached to that squad in the last 3 years. After all you had been saying that they were one of the best squads in the league. But you got it monstrously wrong. Of course I don't expect you to admit you got it wrong because your pride wouldn't allow you to do so.

Cook wanted them to work harder on the training pitch for example and they didn't like it. Ipswich nice and easy payday so they weren't arsed. Their response? Lets try to undermine yet another manager because they are used to the different environment. Cook didn't allow for that so they downed the tools.

Yes, Lambert was a disgrace so was Hurst. But almost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER that left the club after last season was a disgrace too. For every pain and every embarrassing moment we fans had to endure in the last 3 years. They are going to be indelibly associated with the darkest period in the history of the club. They had been clapped and cheered after the relegation, showed little appetite to get the club back yet some people keep slobbering over them. Beyond apprehension !

Evans, Hurst, Lambert and players......all of them share the blame.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:19 - Aug 11 by Mach_foreignBlue

Cook dented their collective confidence OMFG !!!

There we go Lets blame manager game while slobbering over that squad that was dismantled by Cook after last season

So:
Hurst was a disgrace
Lambert was a disgrace
Cook dented their confidence and cost us the play-offs
The players? That's what I said before that is having been indulged and treated like angels and sacred cows while any wrongdoings were the managers fault.

We know that you have been feeling emotionally attached to that squad in the last 3 years. After all you had been saying that they were one of the best squads in the league. But you got it monstrously wrong. Of course I don't expect you to admit you got it wrong because your pride wouldn't allow you to do so.

Cook wanted them to work harder on the training pitch for example and they didn't like it. Ipswich nice and easy payday so they weren't arsed. Their response? Lets try to undermine yet another manager because they are used to the different environment. Cook didn't allow for that so they downed the tools.

Yes, Lambert was a disgrace so was Hurst. But almost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER that left the club after last season was a disgrace too. For every pain and every embarrassing moment we fans had to endure in the last 3 years. They are going to be indelibly associated with the darkest period in the history of the club. They had been clapped and cheered after the relegation, showed little appetite to get the club back yet some people keep slobbering over them. Beyond apprehension !

Evans, Hurst, Lambert and players......all of them share the blame.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:21 - Aug 11 with 1428 viewsHerbivore

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:19 - Aug 11 by Mach_foreignBlue

Cook dented their collective confidence OMFG !!!

There we go Lets blame manager game while slobbering over that squad that was dismantled by Cook after last season

So:
Hurst was a disgrace
Lambert was a disgrace
Cook dented their confidence and cost us the play-offs
The players? That's what I said before that is having been indulged and treated like angels and sacred cows while any wrongdoings were the managers fault.

We know that you have been feeling emotionally attached to that squad in the last 3 years. After all you had been saying that they were one of the best squads in the league. But you got it monstrously wrong. Of course I don't expect you to admit you got it wrong because your pride wouldn't allow you to do so.

Cook wanted them to work harder on the training pitch for example and they didn't like it. Ipswich nice and easy payday so they weren't arsed. Their response? Lets try to undermine yet another manager because they are used to the different environment. Cook didn't allow for that so they downed the tools.

Yes, Lambert was a disgrace so was Hurst. But almost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER that left the club after last season was a disgrace too. For every pain and every embarrassing moment we fans had to endure in the last 3 years. They are going to be indelibly associated with the darkest period in the history of the club. They had been clapped and cheered after the relegation, showed little appetite to get the club back yet some people keep slobbering over them. Beyond apprehension !

Evans, Hurst, Lambert and players......all of them share the blame.
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Good to see you're over Mick and his proper blokes now, Mach.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:25 - Aug 11 with 1427 viewsitfcjoe

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:19 - Aug 11 by Mach_foreignBlue

Cook dented their collective confidence OMFG !!!

There we go Lets blame manager game while slobbering over that squad that was dismantled by Cook after last season

So:
Hurst was a disgrace
Lambert was a disgrace
Cook dented their confidence and cost us the play-offs
The players? That's what I said before that is having been indulged and treated like angels and sacred cows while any wrongdoings were the managers fault.

We know that you have been feeling emotionally attached to that squad in the last 3 years. After all you had been saying that they were one of the best squads in the league. But you got it monstrously wrong. Of course I don't expect you to admit you got it wrong because your pride wouldn't allow you to do so.

Cook wanted them to work harder on the training pitch for example and they didn't like it. Ipswich nice and easy payday so they weren't arsed. Their response? Lets try to undermine yet another manager because they are used to the different environment. Cook didn't allow for that so they downed the tools.

Yes, Lambert was a disgrace so was Hurst. But almost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER that left the club after last season was a disgrace too. For every pain and every embarrassing moment we fans had to endure in the last 3 years. They are going to be indelibly associated with the darkest period in the history of the club. They had been clapped and cheered after the relegation, showed little appetite to get the club back yet some people keep slobbering over them. Beyond apprehension !

Evans, Hurst, Lambert and players......all of them share the blame.
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There's no point even trying to have a reasoned conversation with you - I don't know why I bothered there.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:34 - Aug 11 with 1404 viewsMach_foreignBlue

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:25 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

There's no point even trying to have a reasoned conversation with you - I don't know why I bothered there.


Am I surprised with your reply? Not at all because your pride wouldn't allow you to have a reasoned conversation with me or anyone else that have a different view to yours. That's obvious !
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:38 - Aug 11 with 1389 viewsitfcjoe

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:34 - Aug 11 by Mach_foreignBlue

Am I surprised with your reply? Not at all because your pride wouldn't allow you to have a reasoned conversation with me or anyone else that have a different view to yours. That's obvious !


I posted a post, which basically ended with the point that by missing the play offs it has left the club in a far stronger position than what we all could have hoped for 6 months ago.

You go off on one about the players, and basically how you hate them all still.

Very reasoned.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:43 - Aug 11 with 1361 viewsMach_foreignBlue

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:38 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

I posted a post, which basically ended with the point that by missing the play offs it has left the club in a far stronger position than what we all could have hoped for 6 months ago.

You go off on one about the players, and basically how you hate them all still.

Very reasoned.


Yes I hate those players. 3 years of pain, shame, embarrassment and their stupid cliches in the interviews. You have said about their 'dented confidence' that's why I replied like I did.

You don't know what would have happened even if we had achieved the play-off position. After all new American owners had been in the negotiations with the club for months that's what they said.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:45 - Aug 11 with 1355 viewsTonytown

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:56 - Aug 11 by timothyeo

That's fine, but in which case don't patronise fans by asking for time for the team to gel if you're not going to do everything possible to make that happen.


Blimey how wrong can you be??

Another one for the div list
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:09 - Aug 11 with 1309 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 09:41 - Aug 11 by timothyeo

Agreed, although I fully understand i'm too far "on the other side of the fence" for most people re Cook; perhaps unfairly if I'm totally honest because it's been a very similar pattern with our previous two managers.

I don't think anyone has said a 1-0 loss to Newport means Cook should be sacked. I've rightfully seen concern; the performance was good but you'd bloody hope it would be against Newport reserves.

My main gripe is we've been asked to be patient, wait for things to gel etc and then we've not taken an opportunity to do that in a game which didn't have a huge amount riding on it - the perfect time to do so. I don't think it's necessarily fair to sit there and tell the fans to be patient but on the flipside ignore that opportunity.


It's a balancing act isn't it. The first team needs games to get it to gel... but also fringe players need to get some minutes so a meaningless cup game is the place... plus who can you least afford to get injured...

I'm sure the management team went through all this and then decided on what they decided.

I wasn't on here much so I don't know how many complained about the line-up pre-match yesterday.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:14 - Aug 11 with 1294 viewsitfcjoe

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:09 - Aug 11 by The_Flashing_Smile

It's a balancing act isn't it. The first team needs games to get it to gel... but also fringe players need to get some minutes so a meaningless cup game is the place... plus who can you least afford to get injured...

I'm sure the management team went through all this and then decided on what they decided.

I wasn't on here much so I don't know how many complained about the line-up pre-match yesterday.


Ideal scenario with Carabao Cup is you make 10 changes, but still manage tow in a couple of games. That helps sot hat by end of month you've played an extra couple of games but all it has done is get minutes into legs of those who aren't seeing league action.

Team was fine, it was good enough to win - and should have won. It's disappointing that it didn't for a number of reasons.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:15 - Aug 11 with 1289 viewsitfcjoe

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 15:43 - Aug 11 by Mach_foreignBlue

Yes I hate those players. 3 years of pain, shame, embarrassment and their stupid cliches in the interviews. You have said about their 'dented confidence' that's why I replied like I did.

You don't know what would have happened even if we had achieved the play-off position. After all new American owners had been in the negotiations with the club for months that's what they said.


We also know that Evans appointed Cook on his own, and it wasn't until the way home from the Rochdale game where we drew 0-0 that he finally agreed he had to sell - his ideal scenario was staying in charge and getting further investment.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:27 - Aug 11 with 1251 viewsTonytown

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:15 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

We also know that Evans appointed Cook on his own, and it wasn't until the way home from the Rochdale game where we drew 0-0 that he finally agreed he had to sell - his ideal scenario was staying in charge and getting further investment.


Well if that is right then Cook is pretty lucky to still be here.

The players over the last 3 years have been poor overall. I would excuse Chambers and Skuse as they are on a down curve due to their age and most of the younger players like Dozzell and Dobra too.

Downes wanted out and that caused issues which basically meant a missed year for him.

Evans is the biggest disgrace though and thank god he has gone.

What a terrible run of managers he picked apart from Mick, but even he who was the one competent manager picked was denied a fair crack the year we should have gone up, had it not been for Evans not opening up the purse more in January.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:42 - Aug 11 with 1214 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 12:23 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

This culture is with the fans too - we've not beaten 2 minnows at home this week and everyone thinks it is great - there is just no balance.

No-one is calling a spade a spade


No. Everyone doesn't think it's great.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:48 - Aug 11 with 1196 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 14:11 - Aug 11 by Vic

Do you disagree that our 2nd 11 should beat their youths (2nd 11)?


Yep. Not the point I was making.

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:52 - Aug 11 with 1183 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:14 - Aug 11 by itfcjoe

Ideal scenario with Carabao Cup is you make 10 changes, but still manage tow in a couple of games. That helps sot hat by end of month you've played an extra couple of games but all it has done is get minutes into legs of those who aren't seeing league action.

Team was fine, it was good enough to win - and should have won. It's disappointing that it didn't for a number of reasons.


From what I've read it was 'one of those games' where you throw everything at them but somehow lose 1-0. It's not a biggie. It happens.

Is there anyone to blame for not winning last night?

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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 20:24 - Aug 11 with 1075 viewsCuffy81

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 09:19 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

I thought Saturday was a fairly ropey display to be honest against a Morecambe side who will very likely finish bottom 2. They were blooding as many new players as we were. I thought Harper and Evans were good but that aside it wasn't great. Last night is tough to read much into given the number of changes, but losing to Newport youth team is a poor show whatever the mitigation. Expressing this is described by some as flouncing. A few people lost their head that I wasn't massively excited by our not very good performance and result against Morecambe, which was bizarre.

We should be wanting better. I'm sure Cook and the new owners want better. The shouting down of any questioning or criticism is quite tiresome and I'm seeing WAY more of that happening on here than I am people genuinely turning on Cook.


I think you are being harsh on Morecambe, I thought they were a lot better than many teams I have seen at Portman road in the past two seasons, they managed the game and the referee pretty well and made it incredibly scrappy after we equalised which broke up our momentum and rhythm. If they play like they did on Saturday and last night they won't be relegated.

Individual mistakes are costing us, Saturday it was defensively, last night it was offensively. Partnerships are being developed all over the pitch - it takes time

Cook needs a few wins, I just hope we as fans can get fully behind him, and trust his record of getting teams promoted.
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"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 20:27 - Aug 11 with 1072 viewschrismakin

"Supporters" questioning Cook already. on 16:42 - Aug 11 by The_Flashing_Smile

No. Everyone doesn't think it's great.


What's with minnows too?

One is a fellow league 1 side. On merit in the same league as is. We dont know where they will end up in may to call them Minnows.

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