| The significance of Lincoln away 09:35 - Aug 23 with 11929 views | Bluefish |
Lincoln away was were many numbskulls thought they'd invented a justification to sack Super Mick. We'd lost to a small team in a cup game on terrestrial TV so that meant the bloke that continued to over perform in the Championship had to go. Obviously it ignored the facts that we had lost to many small sides in cup competitions and that same side also defeated a Premier league team in the same run.
Lincoln away was then the final straw for PRP, he should have gone before but without a doubt he should have gone after that game.
The significance now? I gave Cookie for games to turn around his disastrous performance so far as Ipswich boss. If Wycombe is called off the 4th game is Lincoln away. He needs a minimum of 2 wins and a draw to stay longer and so far we have picked up 1 draw so 2 wins needed from 3 games......we shall see |  |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:59 - Aug 23 with 2322 views | WilbrahamBlue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:42 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Can you give examples in non covid years? |
Here's some examples in recent history...
Bolton (10)
Burton (11)
Doncaster (12)
Bournemouth (11)
Southampton (10)
and even 9 losses ....
Rotherham 19/20 (9)
MK Dons 14/15 (9)
Sheff Wed 11/12 (9)
Point of interest - over the last decade teams that have won the play offs have lost up to 15 games, amazing eh |  | | |
| FAKE NEWS +++ Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 12:00 - Aug 23 with 2340 views | unstableblue |
.. Chris Sutton said: "This was a mid-table Championship side totally - and I mean totally - outplayed over two games"
+++sorry got the seasons mixed up here!! which questions even further the suggestion of the OP. This Lincoln FA cup game was season before the below!! I was certainly backing Mick to the hilt after the excellent Millwall away game at the start of the season I'm referencing... then the wheels completely fell off, and the dirge that was the football got even worse++++
Lincoln were a non-League team at the time.
But just to help your foggy memory: our run up to that game was W2 D2 L3
But more importantly we'd had the QPR home 0-0 a few games before, which was in Mick's words was a 'horrible, turgid, scrap'.. it was an unwatchable dirge. QPR were also struggling at the time. And we had the likes of Webster, McGoldrick, Waghorn playing.
And lets not forget the Hull 3-0 at home loss!! You seem to have also forgotten in your statement "Lincoln away was were many numbskulls thought they'd invented a justification to sack Super Mick".. cause that's where the 80% majority who wanted a fresh start really came to the fore!!
Now that was pins in the eyes bad.... just a couple of memory joggers from that one:
- Hull were actually in a relegation bind
- the BBC reported "It was another night of misery for the home fans who last saw an Ipswich goal in a 1-0 win over Leeds on 13 January. The run of five matches without a league goal at Portman Road is the longest barren spell in their history."
I think the fans should just concentrate on AFC Wimbledon, back the manager and team, and lets go from there, shall we?! [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 13:42]
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:05 - Aug 23 with 2294 views | Garv |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:48 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Play offs would be disappointing with our investment and below the standards expected of Cook by everyone at the club including Cook |
Not if we go up through them it won't.
After the last however many years of nothingness, getting into the play offs would be welcome, even if it might be below expectation.
We can't expect to walk the league every season. |  |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:06 - Aug 23 with 2283 views | BlueBadger |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 10:18 - Aug 23 by Vaughan8 |
This.
We were outplayed (and embarrassed) by a team 3 leagues below us. It just showed us what football you could play with "lesser" players.
Probably one of the most embarrassing performances supporting Ipswich and it was on national TV.
People actually asked if that is how we played normally. Sadly it was. |
On the TWTD Revisionism Scale this probably ranks as at least 7.8 Jermaine Wrights. |  |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:42 - Aug 23 with 2238 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:16 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Lol that is a rather large bite.
How has it ever been a schtick? I think my schtick by that reckoning is simply not going OTT on football managers the day they arrive and judging them by what happens on the pitch. Hardly unusual in the world of football.
For the record, I was quick to point out the obvious issues with keane while others made fools of themselves fawning. This wasnt a schtick it was simply judging what I saw on the pitch, much like you used to do
Jewell I was indifferent on a said whilst it was a big improvenent we should not go overboard
Mccarthy earned his respect. I was there in the early games like the Leicester 6-0 but you could see him signing players making a difference and you could see his team fighting. Judgement was reserved but quickly approval gained
Hurst I questioned that the performances were not that different and some of the signings not having an impact. He was a supposed messiah and I stuck with him but the wheels started to come off when he lost belief and ripped it all up for norwich at home. I personally felt he should have got longer but had no real affection for him yet because he hadn't earned it
PRP was a farce, we were clueless from the start, the style was laughable and the signings awful. The free pass was a disgrace, again he had to earn it and never did
Cook also has to earn it, he record last year was poor and this year so far is shocking. The strange position is to go all in in defence of him not to be saying he hasn't earned it here yet.
I am not sure if we are just tinpot or if football has become a joke but judging managers on performances should not be seen as something to get abuse from admins about. Managers have to earn their role and no one in their right mind thinks Cook has yet. I'm giving him 3 more games to do so, if he fails then the season is virtually over anyway |
I reckon the bite there came from the fish who wrote an essay in response to 5 dangled words. [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 12:43]
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:43 - Aug 23 with 2231 views | Illinoisblue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:44 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Preferably someone not called Paul and Preferably someone capable of producing a performance |
If Cook fails, Blue Action’s next banner should be a giant sized “No More Pauls” covering the entire length of the North Stand [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 12:47]
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:44 - Aug 23 with 2217 views | Illinoisblue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:48 - Aug 23 by Ewan_Oozami |
Bill Bailey? |
Izzard as assistant to help out with the fitness stuff | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:46 - Aug 23 with 2213 views | Illinoisblue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:48 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Play offs would be disappointing with our investment and below the standards expected of Cook by everyone at the club including Cook |
Wembley 2000 was such a horrible experience. Paid all that money for Marcus Stewart and couldn’t even crack the top two. | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:48 - Aug 23 with 2202 views | Bluefish |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:46 - Aug 23 by Illinoisblue |
Wembley 2000 was such a horrible experience. Paid all that money for Marcus Stewart and couldn’t even crack the top two. |
Can't see the relevance but OK... .... | |
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| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 12:58 - Aug 23 with 2187 views | Herbivore |
| FAKE NEWS +++ Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 12:00 - Aug 23 by unstableblue |
.. Chris Sutton said: "This was a mid-table Championship side totally - and I mean totally - outplayed over two games"
+++sorry got the seasons mixed up here!! which questions even further the suggestion of the OP. This Lincoln FA cup game was season before the below!! I was certainly backing Mick to the hilt after the excellent Millwall away game at the start of the season I'm referencing... then the wheels completely fell off, and the dirge that was the football got even worse++++
Lincoln were a non-League team at the time.
But just to help your foggy memory: our run up to that game was W2 D2 L3
But more importantly we'd had the QPR home 0-0 a few games before, which was in Mick's words was a 'horrible, turgid, scrap'.. it was an unwatchable dirge. QPR were also struggling at the time. And we had the likes of Webster, McGoldrick, Waghorn playing.
And lets not forget the Hull 3-0 at home loss!! You seem to have also forgotten in your statement "Lincoln away was were many numbskulls thought they'd invented a justification to sack Super Mick".. cause that's where the 80% majority who wanted a fresh start really came to the fore!!
Now that was pins in the eyes bad.... just a couple of memory joggers from that one:
- Hull were actually in a relegation bind
- the BBC reported "It was another night of misery for the home fans who last saw an Ipswich goal in a 1-0 win over Leeds on 13 January. The run of five matches without a league goal at Portman Road is the longest barren spell in their history."
I think the fans should just concentrate on AFC Wimbledon, back the manager and team, and lets go from there, shall we?! [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 13:42]
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You've gone to a lot of effort here, however the Lincoln game was the season before the other games that you've cited so I'm not sure of the relevance. |  |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:11 - Aug 23 with 2150 views | Illinoisblue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 12:48 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Can't see the relevance but OK... .... |
I’ll draw you a picture next time | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:15 - Aug 23 with 2137 views | leitrimblue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:44 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Preferably someone not called Paul and Preferably someone capable of producing a performance |
My name isn't Paul and I have a masters degree in interpretive dance... |  | | |
| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:17 - Aug 23 with 2136 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| FAKE NEWS +++ Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 12:00 - Aug 23 by unstableblue |
.. Chris Sutton said: "This was a mid-table Championship side totally - and I mean totally - outplayed over two games"
+++sorry got the seasons mixed up here!! which questions even further the suggestion of the OP. This Lincoln FA cup game was season before the below!! I was certainly backing Mick to the hilt after the excellent Millwall away game at the start of the season I'm referencing... then the wheels completely fell off, and the dirge that was the football got even worse++++
Lincoln were a non-League team at the time.
But just to help your foggy memory: our run up to that game was W2 D2 L3
But more importantly we'd had the QPR home 0-0 a few games before, which was in Mick's words was a 'horrible, turgid, scrap'.. it was an unwatchable dirge. QPR were also struggling at the time. And we had the likes of Webster, McGoldrick, Waghorn playing.
And lets not forget the Hull 3-0 at home loss!! You seem to have also forgotten in your statement "Lincoln away was were many numbskulls thought they'd invented a justification to sack Super Mick".. cause that's where the 80% majority who wanted a fresh start really came to the fore!!
Now that was pins in the eyes bad.... just a couple of memory joggers from that one:
- Hull were actually in a relegation bind
- the BBC reported "It was another night of misery for the home fans who last saw an Ipswich goal in a 1-0 win over Leeds on 13 January. The run of five matches without a league goal at Portman Road is the longest barren spell in their history."
I think the fans should just concentrate on AFC Wimbledon, back the manager and team, and lets go from there, shall we?! [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 13:42]
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Actually, our runup to that game read W3, D1, L2 - the draw being the original tie against Lincoln
We also didn’t draw 0-0 against QPR around that time - we beat them 3-0 at home a couple of months before and lost 2-1 away in early Jan
The 3-0 defeat against Hull was a year and 2 months later. It was indeed awful however no idea what that has to do with the Lincoln game - I’m surprised you didn’t mention losing 6-0 at Leicester too if you’re going to just cite random poor results from McCarthy’s reign to support whatever point it is you think you’re making |  |
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| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:24 - Aug 23 with 2121 views | BlueBadger |
| FAKE NEWS +++ Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 12:00 - Aug 23 by unstableblue |
.. Chris Sutton said: "This was a mid-table Championship side totally - and I mean totally - outplayed over two games"
+++sorry got the seasons mixed up here!! which questions even further the suggestion of the OP. This Lincoln FA cup game was season before the below!! I was certainly backing Mick to the hilt after the excellent Millwall away game at the start of the season I'm referencing... then the wheels completely fell off, and the dirge that was the football got even worse++++
Lincoln were a non-League team at the time.
But just to help your foggy memory: our run up to that game was W2 D2 L3
But more importantly we'd had the QPR home 0-0 a few games before, which was in Mick's words was a 'horrible, turgid, scrap'.. it was an unwatchable dirge. QPR were also struggling at the time. And we had the likes of Webster, McGoldrick, Waghorn playing.
And lets not forget the Hull 3-0 at home loss!! You seem to have also forgotten in your statement "Lincoln away was were many numbskulls thought they'd invented a justification to sack Super Mick".. cause that's where the 80% majority who wanted a fresh start really came to the fore!!
Now that was pins in the eyes bad.... just a couple of memory joggers from that one:
- Hull were actually in a relegation bind
- the BBC reported "It was another night of misery for the home fans who last saw an Ipswich goal in a 1-0 win over Leeds on 13 January. The run of five matches without a league goal at Portman Road is the longest barren spell in their history."
I think the fans should just concentrate on AFC Wimbledon, back the manager and team, and lets go from there, shall we?! [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 13:42]
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Plus, we didn't lose playing Technical Football, like how we used to use in the third division under Lambert. | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:30 - Aug 23 with 2113 views | jayessess |
Side note to the resurrected Mick beef, but ...
It will always be weird to me how many managers in a row we've had prepared to earn unnecessary ill-will by losing cup ties with weakened teams, despite it seeming to have negligible effect on our league form.
For as long as I can remember our limp cup exits seem to be followed by bad league results? |  |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:37 - Aug 23 with 2090 views | Fixed_It |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:30 - Aug 23 by jayessess |
Side note to the resurrected Mick beef, but ...
It will always be weird to me how many managers in a row we've had prepared to earn unnecessary ill-will by losing cup ties with weakened teams, despite it seeming to have negligible effect on our league form.
For as long as I can remember our limp cup exits seem to be followed by bad league results? |
Did we play a weakened team in that match at Lincoln? Apart from the fact that most of them, especially Berra, appeared to be blindfolded... |  |
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| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:44 - Aug 23 with 2067 views | unstableblue |
| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 12:58 - Aug 23 by Herbivore |
You've gone to a lot of effort here, however the Lincoln game was the season before the other games that you've cited so I'm not sure of the relevance. |
Its a fair cop!! My mistake
Makes the OP's original point even further off the mark... I was a Mick outer by the end.. but even the season after the Lincoln exit debacle.... the majority of the fans were behind Mick after the Millwall away super display...
Wheels fell off afterwards.. as per my content | |
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| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:46 - Aug 23 with 2059 views | unstableblue |
| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:24 - Aug 23 by BlueBadger |
Plus, we didn't lose playing Technical Football, like how we used to use in the third division under Lambert. |
MK Dons were very technical weren't they Badger? | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:49 - Aug 23 with 2059 views | Illinoisblue |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:30 - Aug 23 by jayessess |
Side note to the resurrected Mick beef, but ...
It will always be weird to me how many managers in a row we've had prepared to earn unnecessary ill-will by losing cup ties with weakened teams, despite it seeming to have negligible effect on our league form.
For as long as I can remember our limp cup exits seem to be followed by bad league results? |
The league cup game at Man Utd when Mick played a bunch of reserves and never-will-bes… would love to know how the senior pros felt about missing the chance to play at Old Trafford. | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:50 - Aug 23 with 2040 views | jayessess |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:37 - Aug 23 by Fixed_It |
Did we play a weakened team in that match at Lincoln? Apart from the fact that most of them, especially Berra, appeared to be blindfolded... |
I just checked and you're right, the away game was near enough the first team, bar a couple. A few more changes in the first game.
Think I just assumed from McCarthy's general cup tie vibe that we would've gone weak. We sent the reserves to Old Trafford one time, didn't we? | |
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| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:55 - Aug 23 with 2023 views | Herbivore |
| Just to help your memory on the Lincoln result... PLEASE READ on 13:44 - Aug 23 by unstableblue |
Its a fair cop!! My mistake
Makes the OP's original point even further off the mark... I was a Mick outer by the end.. but even the season after the Lincoln exit debacle.... the majority of the fans were behind Mick after the Millwall away super display...
Wheels fell off afterwards.. as per my content |
I'm not sure you're remembering right. A very vocal minority of fans were calling for Mick's head after the Lincoln defeat. We went on to finish 16th that season and many if not most were calling for him to go, indeed even myself as a fan of Mick said in the summer of 2017 that perhaps it might be time for him to move on as things had got pretty stale and there was too much discontent for us to move forward again.
I don't think most were back onside following our good start the following season, as was evidenced by the resurfacing of negative chanting towards the team once a few results had gone against us. Indeed you were discussing the other day how the boos after our loss against Fulham were justified, even though it followed a run of 4 or 5 wins and was in the context of us having some pretty significant injury problems. | |
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 14:23 - Aug 23 with 1966 views | Blueastheycome |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:59 - Aug 23 by WilbrahamBlue |
Here's some examples in recent history...
Bolton (10)
Burton (11)
Doncaster (12)
Bournemouth (11)
Southampton (10)
and even 9 losses ....
Rotherham 19/20 (9)
MK Dons 14/15 (9)
Sheff Wed 11/12 (9)
Point of interest - over the last decade teams that have won the play offs have lost up to 15 games, amazing eh |
Blubbers get back in your box you just got kippered. [Post edited 23 Aug 2021 14:23]
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| The significance of Lincoln away on 14:41 - Aug 23 with 1937 views | PhilTWTD |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 13:49 - Aug 23 by Illinoisblue |
The league cup game at Man Utd when Mick played a bunch of reserves and never-will-bes… would love to know how the senior pros felt about missing the chance to play at Old Trafford. |
Not overly chuffed in some cases, I believe. |  | | |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 15:31 - Aug 23 with 1873 views | Seablu |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 11:16 - Aug 23 by Bluefish |
Lol that is a rather large bite.
How has it ever been a schtick? I think my schtick by that reckoning is simply not going OTT on football managers the day they arrive and judging them by what happens on the pitch. Hardly unusual in the world of football.
For the record, I was quick to point out the obvious issues with keane while others made fools of themselves fawning. This wasnt a schtick it was simply judging what I saw on the pitch, much like you used to do
Jewell I was indifferent on a said whilst it was a big improvenent we should not go overboard
Mccarthy earned his respect. I was there in the early games like the Leicester 6-0 but you could see him signing players making a difference and you could see his team fighting. Judgement was reserved but quickly approval gained
Hurst I questioned that the performances were not that different and some of the signings not having an impact. He was a supposed messiah and I stuck with him but the wheels started to come off when he lost belief and ripped it all up for norwich at home. I personally felt he should have got longer but had no real affection for him yet because he hadn't earned it
PRP was a farce, we were clueless from the start, the style was laughable and the signings awful. The free pass was a disgrace, again he had to earn it and never did
Cook also has to earn it, he record last year was poor and this year so far is shocking. The strange position is to go all in in defence of him not to be saying he hasn't earned it here yet.
I am not sure if we are just tinpot or if football has become a joke but judging managers on performances should not be seen as something to get abuse from admins about. Managers have to earn their role and no one in their right mind thinks Cook has yet. I'm giving him 3 more games to do so, if he fails then the season is virtually over anyway |
But Phil, please, not the naughty step again, pleeeeease.
This is all I’ve got left….
You remind me of the pathetic sharks in Viz. |  | | |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 15:38 - Aug 23 with 1857 views | Bluefish |
| The significance of Lincoln away on 15:31 - Aug 23 by Seablu |
But Phil, please, not the naughty step again, pleeeeease.
This is all I’ve got left….
You remind me of the pathetic sharks in Viz. |
You could be my new top stalker. I hope.you lie about having me on ignore while you keep replying to me and I don't bother responding | |
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