| He has lost the crowd. 18:30 - Nov 28 with 6311 views | 3_5_2 |
Rotherham was as flat as pancake as very few honestly thought we would get anything from the game ( would have been for the players to have least tried)
Today, v a team bottom of the league, the crowd never really got going and the atmosphere at PR is poor again.
Goals apart, that was a poor performance against a side we could / should have put to the sword
I can’t remember the last time a crowd booed a winning team off
Seems yet another false dawn for the long suffering town fans. [Post edited 28 Nov 2021 20:41]
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| He has lost the crowd. on 21:51 - Nov 28 with 1170 views | pointofblue |
| He has lost the crowd. on 21:31 - Nov 28 by azuremerlangus |
Not sure he has lost the crowd - more like reality is now starting to set in. Today’s game was a good summary of where we are in the ‘project’ and the journey up to this point:
Moments of brilliance, mostly from individuals rather collectively. Still not looking like a tight unit who are difficult to break down or able to shut up shop when ahead.
As expected still a work in progress but nagging doubts are creeping in that the recent stalling isn’t temporary. [Post edited 28 Nov 2021 21:35]
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"Recent stalling" - we've struggled to hit first gear since he took over. Yes, we did well against Doncaster, Portsmouth and Wycombe but we beat Doncaster 6-0 and West Ham 5-1 under Jewell; that hardly worked out. |  |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 21:54 - Nov 28 with 1169 views | MaySixth |
Imagine booing your players after they have fought hard and won. |  |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 21:54 - Nov 28 with 1162 views | blueboyd |
| He has lost the crowd. on 19:02 - Nov 28 by ITFC_Esquire |
I have to say, I’ve been behind cook more than most up until now - despite the obvious concerns. I believe in giving managers time and practicing patience to allow them to impose their style of football in full before making judgement. Of course these last few games are a concern.
Something cook said today rubbed me up the wrong way entirely though:
“The fans need to realise we don’t have a Devine right to win football matches, if they think that then they aren’t aligned with what footballs about”
Ipswich fans of all fans understand that. What we do expect though is for a team with the highest budget in the league to outplay a Crewe side that had all their best players pinched in the summer. We expect to be higher than 11th at this point. We expect to see some progression after 20 games, not to be told it’s a ‘new’ side again. The town support has been nothing short of phenomenal to this point, not sure he was right to be questioning that today. |
you must have been gutted when we fired Paul Hurst then, he wasn't given time. | | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:04 - Nov 28 with 1138 views | AlanG296 |
| He has lost the crowd. on 21:54 - Nov 28 by MaySixth |
Imagine booing your players after they have fought hard and won. |
Fought hard? Outfought and outworked second half. | | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:08 - Nov 28 with 1134 views | itfcsuth |
I can’t get my head around booing a win, absolute madness in my opinion. |  | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:11 - Nov 28 with 1116 views | pointofblue |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:08 - Nov 28 by itfcsuth |
I can’t get my head around booing a win, absolute madness in my opinion. |
Was the last time that happened Mick's final game in charge? | |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 22:11 - Nov 28 with 1113 views | blueboyd |
| He has lost the crowd. on 19:31 - Nov 28 by Terra_Farma |
Couldn't agree more.
Let us give PC at the very least until the end of the season.
We all know we are in League 1, yes it sucks to win by a narrow 1 goal margin against Crewe, but we will come good under PC. |
how will we come good under Cook? | | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:14 - Nov 28 with 1096 views | AlanG296 |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:08 - Nov 28 by itfcsuth |
I can’t get my head around booing a win, absolute madness in my opinion. |
Simple. Booing was for the performance not the result. They got a good reception at Sunderland for the performance, not the result. Or perhaps you thought they were applauding a defeat. It's not always just about the result. | | | |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 22:23 - Nov 28 with 1069 views | Swansea_Blue |
| He has lost the crowd. on 21:54 - Nov 28 by MaySixth |
Imagine booing your players after they have fought hard and won. |
Embarrassing isn’t it. Petulant, immature, entitled, etc.
We’re not firing on all cylinders, but we’re not the first team this season to beat them by the odd goal. We’ve won, scored a brace after a lean spell, created shed loads of good chances, and seen a worldie that will forever be talked about. And you’d think we’d lost going by the reaction. It’s very bizarre. |  |
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| Imagine booing your players… on 22:27 - Nov 28 with 1041 views | unstableblue |
| He has lost the crowd. on 21:54 - Nov 28 by MaySixth |
Imagine booing your players after they have fought hard and won. |
… after they’d put on some great great attacking moves.
Imagine booing them because they lacked the confidence to stay the stronger side.
Imagine thinking that that will help them improve for the next game. |  |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 22:28 - Nov 28 with 1036 views | blueboyd |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:23 - Nov 28 by Swansea_Blue |
Embarrassing isn’t it. Petulant, immature, entitled, etc.
We’re not firing on all cylinders, but we’re not the first team this season to beat them by the odd goal. We’ve won, scored a brace after a lean spell, created shed loads of good chances, and seen a worldie that will forever be talked about. And you’d think we’d lost going by the reaction. It’s very bizarre. |
Booing was poor but you have listed the good things, there were equal bad things too I think which caused people who boo, to do just that at the final whistle. | | | |
| Imagine booing your players… on 22:31 - Nov 28 with 1001 views | Herbivore |
| Imagine booing your players… on 22:27 - Nov 28 by unstableblue |
… after they’d put on some great great attacking moves.
Imagine booing them because they lacked the confidence to stay the stronger side.
Imagine thinking that that will help them improve for the next game. |
That's quite the spin. We were poor again today. Booing isn't helpful but I understand the fans being frustrated. |  |
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| Imagine booing your players… on 22:34 - Nov 28 with 983 views | AlanG296 |
| Imagine booing your players… on 22:27 - Nov 28 by unstableblue |
… after they’d put on some great great attacking moves.
Imagine booing them because they lacked the confidence to stay the stronger side.
Imagine thinking that that will help them improve for the next game. |
Imagine thinking than cheering or booing makes any difference to players performance on the long run. Players either have the ability and mentality to deliver or they don't. | | | |
| Imagine booing your players… on 22:45 - Nov 28 with 939 views | unstableblue |
| Imagine booing your players… on 22:34 - Nov 28 by AlanG296 |
Imagine thinking than cheering or booing makes any difference to players performance on the long run. Players either have the ability and mentality to deliver or they don't. |
Completely disagree
But that’s what a football forum is all about | |
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| Imagine booing your players… on 23:04 - Nov 28 with 882 views | AlanG296 |
| Imagine booing your players… on 22:45 - Nov 28 by unstableblue |
Completely disagree
But that’s what a football forum is all about |
To be honest my views have changed with age, spent too much time singing my heart out for the lads to no avail and never booing. Now I applaud them for walking onto the pitch at the start or coming off the bench then they get the reponse from me that the game situation merits. IMO it makes no difference but that's just an opinion | | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 23:20 - Nov 28 with 850 views | clive_baker |
Nobody cares too much about the pizza trophy and Barrow will be flat just because it’s fa cup R2 against lower league opposition.
The next league game is Charlton away on a Tuesday night where we’ve sold a heck of a lot of tickets so I imagine that’ll be a good atmosphere. It’s a big one, we’re at a stage where draws aren’t enough to get us back on track. |  |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 23:22 - Nov 28 with 834 views | pointofblue |
| He has lost the crowd. on 23:20 - Nov 28 by clive_baker |
Nobody cares too much about the pizza trophy and Barrow will be flat just because it’s fa cup R2 against lower league opposition.
The next league game is Charlton away on a Tuesday night where we’ve sold a heck of a lot of tickets so I imagine that’ll be a good atmosphere. It’s a big one, we’re at a stage where draws aren’t enough to get us back on track. |
Four points from Charlton and Wigan is a decent return, I think.
It has got to the point where results are more important than performances but, more often that not, good performances get results. | |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 23:27 - Nov 28 with 826 views | AlanG296 |
| He has lost the crowd. on 23:22 - Nov 28 by pointofblue |
Four points from Charlton and Wigan is a decent return, I think.
It has got to the point where results are more important than performances but, more often that not, good performances get results. |
Well we've got to play them both twice this season so 4 points from 4 games would is not unrealistic. | | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 00:04 - Nov 29 with 793 views | MaySixth |
| He has lost the crowd. on 19:48 - Nov 28 by Iwasthere |
Herbie, we all know that Cook will not be a success because he has had enough time to prove us wrong. Ashton is the problem and is finding it difficult to admit it.
II might be that those Bristol City fans comments on Ashton may be right. |
Melt | |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 02:14 - Nov 29 with 736 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| He has lost the crowd. on 19:46 - Nov 28 by Terra_Farma |
The way we are playing.
Town haven't knocked the ball around like this for about 5 seasons.
I accept we are far from the finished article, however, you can see we are progressing as a team. |
Knocking the ball around the back four does not equal good football.
I am seeing very little if any team progression. We have a good squad but a poor team. There have been excellent individual moments and dreadful team periods. Better teams show up this weakness. Cook and management team must do better. |  | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 05:45 - Nov 29 with 660 views | Churchman |
| He has lost the crowd. on 22:14 - Nov 28 by AlanG296 |
Simple. Booing was for the performance not the result. They got a good reception at Sunderland for the performance, not the result. Or perhaps you thought they were applauding a defeat. It's not always just about the result. |
I still struggle to understand booing. It’s something I’ve never done personally. But heck, people pay their money and within reason have a right to express their views any way they like. For me, the only time a team deserve that is if they don’t try e.g. Wimbledon and Northampton away last season. |  | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 18:03 - Nov 30 with 534 views | Terra_Farma |
| He has lost the crowd. on 19:53 - Nov 28 by Herbivore |
Can you? What were you watching this week? |
Thought not Herb - be positive pumpkin.
Put your forked tongue away. | | | |
| He has lost the crowd. on 18:12 - Nov 30 with 518 views | Mullet |
| He has lost the crowd. on 23:20 - Nov 28 by clive_baker |
Nobody cares too much about the pizza trophy and Barrow will be flat just because it’s fa cup R2 against lower league opposition.
The next league game is Charlton away on a Tuesday night where we’ve sold a heck of a lot of tickets so I imagine that’ll be a good atmosphere. It’s a big one, we’re at a stage where draws aren’t enough to get us back on track. |
Add to that, that really the big test will come at home to Sunderland with the #PackOutPR stuff and the owners there. If there are fans that truly have been lost, no doubt we will hear it there, or if seats paid for are empty as after all that's a trope too.
I think we are a way off outright hostility and hopefully Cook doesn't suffer the stuff others have in recent years. His personality and the buy in from certain quarters seems to make that unlikely. |  |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 18:14 - Nov 30 with 515 views | chrismakin |
| He has lost the crowd. on 18:12 - Nov 30 by Mullet |
Add to that, that really the big test will come at home to Sunderland with the #PackOutPR stuff and the owners there. If there are fans that truly have been lost, no doubt we will hear it there, or if seats paid for are empty as after all that's a trope too.
I think we are a way off outright hostility and hopefully Cook doesn't suffer the stuff others have in recent years. His personality and the buy in from certain quarters seems to make that unlikely. |
Those 3 games are massive.
Put on performances.. not just wins. And we may have won some fans back.
Win or lose with crewe performances and we won't see it again this season. |  |
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| He has lost the crowd. on 18:28 - Nov 30 with 490 views | Iwasthere |
| He has lost the crowd. on 00:04 - Nov 29 by MaySixth |
Melt |
I suppose when you haven't got any faith in us getting promoted anyone who has and is disappointed in our performances, the manager and the CEO not recognising the fact that Cook is a failure, is a melt.
Happy Days. | | | |
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