| KOA 11:10 - Jan 11 with 6260 views | kingberra |
Appreciate I am fairly late to the town podcast scene. Just recently started listening to KOA alongside blue monday.
Seems to me to be a good listen, with Andy Warren and Stuart Watson the best aspects. Was just wondering how other people viewed it, especially longer term listeners/viewers? |  | | |  |
| KOA on 13:02 - Jan 11 with 2175 views | davblue |
| KOA on 11:59 - Jan 11 by Fixed_It |
I found myself counting the 'for goodness sakes' this week. Still - an excellent podcast. Blue Monday and KOA for me, although I occasionally dip into Talking Town out of curiosity. Don't usually stay there long though. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 12:03]
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Yes ‘for goodness sake’ on the last Blue Monday pod was an extravaganza! |  | | |
| KOA on 13:03 - Jan 11 with 2178 views | Garv |
| KOA on 12:35 - Jan 11 by iamipswich |
As others have said, Stuart Watson and Andy Warren are great. They speak very well about ongoings on the pitch and off it. They do give a little additional insight on things such as transfers which you wouldn't get from fan podcasts. Mark Heath is ok but does need to let everyone know that he's 'prone to hyperbole' and 'a fighting man' at every opportunity.
Not really sure why Ross is there tbh (except maybe for the 2 minute segments on the Women). All he does is echo what Watson and Warren have said in their articles. Doesn't provide any useful insight or articulate the more fan-based opinion in the same way Mike Bacon does. Seems a nice chap though and is good with camera in hand. |
Bacon is awful. My heart sinks when I start an episode and find out he's going to feature. |  |
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| KOA on 13:27 - Jan 11 with 2092 views | CrockerITFC |
| KOA on 13:03 - Jan 11 by Garv |
Bacon is awful. My heart sinks when I start an episode and find out he's going to feature. |
No!! How can you not like the Porky Pigster? |  | | |
| KOA on 13:33 - Jan 11 with 2070 views | Strimmer |
| KOA on 13:27 - Jan 11 by CrockerITFC |
No!! How can you not like the Porky Pigster? |
I love Bacons appearances, he is very funny and has followed the town for donkeys years, though he has an extremely chaotic energy. As such I see him as a brilliant guest character appearing now and then. A KOA Super Hans if you will | |
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| KOA on 13:46 - Jan 11 with 2008 views | DJR |
| KOA on 12:35 - Jan 11 by iamipswich |
As others have said, Stuart Watson and Andy Warren are great. They speak very well about ongoings on the pitch and off it. They do give a little additional insight on things such as transfers which you wouldn't get from fan podcasts. Mark Heath is ok but does need to let everyone know that he's 'prone to hyperbole' and 'a fighting man' at every opportunity.
Not really sure why Ross is there tbh (except maybe for the 2 minute segments on the Women). All he does is echo what Watson and Warren have said in their articles. Doesn't provide any useful insight or articulate the more fan-based opinion in the same way Mike Bacon does. Seems a nice chap though and is good with camera in hand. |
I think both Mark Heath and Mike Bacon (and their sense of humour) add something to the podcast, and bring out the understated humour of both Andy Warren and Stuart Watson. Without either, I think the podcast would be a little earnest. I think Ross's strengths lie in the Gameday and Fans Social podcasts, but he brings a boyish enthusiasm to anything he is involved in.
BM is also very good, and my favourite host is Rich, with his calm and measured approach and soothing voice. He also does a great Cook impression. |  | | |
| KOA on 13:48 - Jan 11 with 2003 views | Charlie_pl_baxter |
| KOA on 13:03 - Jan 11 by Garv |
Bacon is awful. My heart sinks when I start an episode and find out he's going to feature. |
Have to agree, he has some good things to say but I find his delivery really grating. Also pretty bored of his/Ross's on running gag about not being able to pronounce foreign players names. Just comes across as lazy, especially for two journos.
I would very happily listen to the three OG presenters. I think it needs the light relief from Heath to keep things moving and Andy/Stu are excellent. |  |
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| KOA on 14:02 - Jan 11 with 1990 views | Garv |
| KOA on 13:27 - Jan 11 by CrockerITFC |
No!! How can you not like the Porky Pigster? |
He's an assault on your ears. His party trick is to go on 20 minute rants spouting things like "play two up front" and "back in my day..." while the others giggle because they realise he's off his trolley.
I listen mainly for the two journos who attend games. Overall it's the best Town podcast for me. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 15:28]
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| KOA on 14:14 - Jan 11 with 1945 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
| KOA on 14:02 - Jan 11 by Garv |
He's an assault on your ears. His party trick is to go on 20 minute rants spouting things like "play two up front" and "back in my day..." while the others giggle because they realise he's off his trolley.
I listen mainly for the two journos who attend games. Overall it's the best Town podcast for me. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 15:28]
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Lol your first line is spot on |  | | |
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| KOA on 14:57 - Jan 11 with 1882 views | Skip_Intro |
| KOA on 13:27 - Jan 11 by CrockerITFC |
No!! How can you not like the Porky Pigster? |
Bacon really grates on me too - has got worse recently in his last few appearances where he seems to be a cross between what he thinks is an elder statesman and a pantomime dame...
Ross is the KoA equivalent of Scrappy Doo...his videos aren't bad but he adds nothing to the podcasts.
Having said all that I really like Stu and Andy's input - we are lucky to have them as our local ITFC journos - still make the pod well worth watching imo... |  | | |
| KOA on 15:17 - Jan 11 with 1844 views | BlueBadger |
| KOA on 11:13 - Jan 11 by Wallingford_Boy |
Never listened to it, I tend to listen to Talking Town, I prefer the "fans angle".
But I say listen to them all, its all about the club we love, so if you enjoy it, listen to it. There will always be those on here saying one is better than the other, but room for all I say. |
Who'd have thought that you'd be in favour of the 'controversial' one full of desperate attention seekers chucking out 'look at me' hot takes? [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 15:24]
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| KOA on 15:24 - Jan 11 with 1818 views | franz_tyson |
Are we going a bit over the top in the criticism towards Ross, Mike Bacon and Mark Heath? Yes, they are employed by a newspaper and get paid for their work, but I wouldn’t say they’re trained /professional podcasters. They’ve been employed for other stuff and the podcast is a bit of a sideline. It’s all free content and no-one is being short-changed with a subscription fee. Can always fast-forward their pieces if it gets on your nerves. Not sure they’re fair game to sh*t on with such relish.
But agree that Stu and Andy are very good. Actually, think Mark’s a good host and sets up Stu/Andy well as the experts. | | | |
| KOA on 15:31 - Jan 11 with 1796 views | hype313 |
| KOA on 15:24 - Jan 11 by franz_tyson |
Are we going a bit over the top in the criticism towards Ross, Mike Bacon and Mark Heath? Yes, they are employed by a newspaper and get paid for their work, but I wouldn’t say they’re trained /professional podcasters. They’ve been employed for other stuff and the podcast is a bit of a sideline. It’s all free content and no-one is being short-changed with a subscription fee. Can always fast-forward their pieces if it gets on your nerves. Not sure they’re fair game to sh*t on with such relish.
But agree that Stu and Andy are very good. Actually, think Mark’s a good host and sets up Stu/Andy well as the experts. |
Think Mark is good at keeping the flow going and asking the right questions, the three of them work well, tbh I don't mind Bacon on occasions to mix things up, but don't think it would work with him full time.
Not sure why Ross is on there, great snapper, but doesn't really add anything bar a bit of ridicule every now and then. |  |
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| KOA on 15:43 - Jan 11 with 1754 views | Bluedandy |
| KOA on 15:24 - Jan 11 by franz_tyson |
Are we going a bit over the top in the criticism towards Ross, Mike Bacon and Mark Heath? Yes, they are employed by a newspaper and get paid for their work, but I wouldn’t say they’re trained /professional podcasters. They’ve been employed for other stuff and the podcast is a bit of a sideline. It’s all free content and no-one is being short-changed with a subscription fee. Can always fast-forward their pieces if it gets on your nerves. Not sure they’re fair game to sh*t on with such relish.
But agree that Stu and Andy are very good. Actually, think Mark’s a good host and sets up Stu/Andy well as the experts. |
Ross is very young, a cub learning the trade.
His match day videos are certainly watchable and getting better.
Watson & Warren are solid football reporters and do a great job covering the Town.
I shouldn't think there are many local papers across the UK with better journos on the same beat. | | | |
| KOA on 16:02 - Jan 11 with 1692 views | Westcountryblue |
| KOA on 15:43 - Jan 11 by Bluedandy |
Ross is very young, a cub learning the trade.
His match day videos are certainly watchable and getting better.
Watson & Warren are solid football reporters and do a great job covering the Town.
I shouldn't think there are many local papers across the UK with better journos on the same beat. |
Did some good work during the lock down interviewing former players. | | | |
| KOA on 16:11 - Jan 11 with 1671 views | CrockerITFC |
For me it's Blue Monday all the way, I listen to KOA too and contrary to all the posters above really think Mark Health is a good moderator and can't complain about the very few times the Porky Pigster is featuring.
TT on the other hand is so tinpot, I've listened to it for about 5 mins and it's always painfully amateur in comparison, all over the place, and too many yokels. It's like listening to the Radio Suffolk phone-in. | | | |
| KOA on 16:14 - Jan 11 with 1657 views | itfcjoe |
Nice to read some good feedback for Blue Monday in this thread.
I also listen to KoA as think Andy and Stu do a really good job in giving a view from behind the scenes and there is always a couple of nuggets of useful info to take from the pod at least.
Think the pod has a nicer balance now as was a bit banter heavy at one point and seems to have found it's level for things. |  |
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| KOA on 17:01 - Jan 11 with 1568 views | solemio |
| KOA on 11:30 - Jan 11 by Strimmer |
Could be wrong here but I believe he's Forrest. And yeah, a pro journo who rocked up at the EADT early career and stayed. So he's got love for the club no doubt but ultimately his perspective is one of an outsider and I think that's what elevates him. |
Watson is Craig Forrest? I didn't know that. | | | |
| KOA on 17:06 - Jan 11 with 1563 views | Chrisd |
| KOA on 15:24 - Jan 11 by franz_tyson |
Are we going a bit over the top in the criticism towards Ross, Mike Bacon and Mark Heath? Yes, they are employed by a newspaper and get paid for their work, but I wouldn’t say they’re trained /professional podcasters. They’ve been employed for other stuff and the podcast is a bit of a sideline. It’s all free content and no-one is being short-changed with a subscription fee. Can always fast-forward their pieces if it gets on your nerves. Not sure they’re fair game to sh*t on with such relish.
But agree that Stu and Andy are very good. Actually, think Mark’s a good host and sets up Stu/Andy well as the experts. |
Spot on Franz. I was meant to ‘up vote’ your post. Apologies. | |
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| KOA on 17:25 - Jan 11 with 1541 views | iamipswich |
| KOA on 15:43 - Jan 11 by Bluedandy |
Ross is very young, a cub learning the trade.
His match day videos are certainly watchable and getting better.
Watson & Warren are solid football reporters and do a great job covering the Town.
I shouldn't think there are many local papers across the UK with better journos on the same beat. |
The worst thing about Town going up is when The Athletic pinch Stuart Watson. |  |
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| KOA on 18:15 - Jan 11 with 1471 views | Strimmer |
| KOA on 15:24 - Jan 11 by franz_tyson |
Are we going a bit over the top in the criticism towards Ross, Mike Bacon and Mark Heath? Yes, they are employed by a newspaper and get paid for their work, but I wouldn’t say they’re trained /professional podcasters. They’ve been employed for other stuff and the podcast is a bit of a sideline. It’s all free content and no-one is being short-changed with a subscription fee. Can always fast-forward their pieces if it gets on your nerves. Not sure they’re fair game to sh*t on with such relish.
But agree that Stu and Andy are very good. Actually, think Mark’s a good host and sets up Stu/Andy well as the experts. |
I didn't make this explicit in an earlier post but I 100% agree that Mark is a good foil to stu and andy's insight and analysis. the fun chat dips into a slightly tired territory and obvious level at times but it does offer neccesary light and shade and as Joe says they have really found their groove in recent times. They work really well together on the whole.
I genuinely do like hearing little nuggets about Stu and Andy's life on the road, eating burritos and so on, and Andy's shirt collecting habit.
The thing with podcasts is that over time you build a relationship with them and they become 'the friends in your ears' whether its My dad wrote a porno, newscast, whatever it may. So, Ross may not offer the same thing as the other two but he's got his own voice and kind of fits his place as the little brother of the group. | |
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| KOA on 18:18 - Jan 11 with 1473 views | Stenvict |
It doesn't help that TT have about half an hour as an intro. By the time that's over, I switch over. The 3 of them come across as very arrogant as well.
KOA is my tipple, and agree with others that Ross doesn't add much, just agrees with the others.
Don't tend to listen to BM, but I'm aware of the contributors and they are all intelligent fans that offer good insight. | |
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| KOA on 18:42 - Jan 11 with 1427 views | istanblue |
It's a good pod as are the other ITFC podcasts Blue Monday and Talking Town. KOA is a more behind-the-curtain look at how things are done. Don't get the Mark Heath hate as he's a good presenter and provides some comic relief to the rather dull Andy Warren and Stuart Watson who looks and sounds like an accountant. Also KOA are very reluctant to call out the club when things are going wrong (probably concerned about losing their access). Talking Town is great if you want unfiltered fan emotion. Blue Monday was good when it was strictly Benjamin Bloom and David Dymond but since they've allowed a series of wannabe pundits on it's gone downhill a bit unfortunately. |  | | |
| KOA on 19:19 - Jan 11 with 1384 views | jayessess |
Generally I'll always listen to Blue Monday and maybe KOA if something big or good has happened and I want more chat about it.
BM's got a good balance between the amiable chat and well-informed analysis, KOA the balance is slightly too much toward the former (I often find myself just spinning past the first 6 minutes or so). |  |
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| KOA on 20:44 - Jan 11 with 1303 views | Coastalblue |
| KOA on 18:42 - Jan 11 by istanblue |
It's a good pod as are the other ITFC podcasts Blue Monday and Talking Town. KOA is a more behind-the-curtain look at how things are done. Don't get the Mark Heath hate as he's a good presenter and provides some comic relief to the rather dull Andy Warren and Stuart Watson who looks and sounds like an accountant. Also KOA are very reluctant to call out the club when things are going wrong (probably concerned about losing their access). Talking Town is great if you want unfiltered fan emotion. Blue Monday was good when it was strictly Benjamin Bloom and David Dymond but since they've allowed a series of wannabe pundits on it's gone downhill a bit unfortunately. |
Couldn't disagree more on BM, think they have some very good guys on there and while I think Benjamin Bloom does a great job I also think Rich is a fantastic host who wouldn't be out of place in mainstream media. |  |
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| KOA on 05:15 - Jan 12 with 1156 views | IPS_wich |
I like KOA a lot and have been listening for about three years - my view on the five (self proclaimed) Kings are:
- Mark Heath: Wasn't a fan initially, but after a couple of episodes when he was missing and either Stu or Hutch hosted I realised he was essential to get the best out of the others. I quite liked 'Marks Big Question' but some of his other banter is a bit tiresome. There was a time when I wasn't sure he ever watched our games, but this season it seems like he's actually seen some of the games.
- Stu and Hutch: Two of the best sports podcasters going. A great balance of analysis opinion and behind the curtain insights. I prefer Hutchy slightly more because my sense he has a slightly better understanding of football tactics, but Stu is essential. It's also always 100% better when both of them are available and can bounce of each other.
- Ross: Almost unbearable, adds nothing, but over time I've become quite fond of him. Always better when the other three are on because his contributions are so minimal. Glad they canned the 'Strike' because it was appalling. Don't listen to the fanzone because he hosts - but also I'm not really into fan based pods (which is why I don't listen to BM or TT - sorry).
- Mike Bacon: the absolute pits. If he's ever on then I don't listen to the episode anymore. Talks absolute tosh with no insight or analysis.
My biggest frustration is that they appear to have ditched the 'mailbag' and 'friend of the show' (maybe they are in the fanzone episodes) but it feels to me that the pod has lost some of it's connection with the listeners. | | | |
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