| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? 16:30 - Jul 9 with 9024 views | unbelievablue |
Regardless of your political persuasion. Please show your working.
e.g. I am considering who might be the least threat to a Labour challenge at the next election, as well as "the lesser of all evils" scenario until then, but am as of yet undecided. Whereas you, a staunch Tory, might have a favourite for the opposite reason.
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:41 - Jul 9 with 1301 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:33 - Jul 9 by BlueBadger |
Right wing Harry, you're just a right wing Harry... |
That is a bit harsh on Zapers (and on Harry). He is a bit like an annoying fly that could do with getting zapped but the zapping machine missed a p and was left zaping instead. I wonder if zaping is a bit like vaping.
Anyway, Zapers' posts are far less frequent, rambling and derogatory than Harry's. And Harry shows a level of logic that Zapers misses completely. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:43 - Jul 9 with 1299 views | Zapers |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:35 - Jul 9 by BlueBadger |
He's racist, incompetent, went to nice schools and spent a lot of the last decade making excuses for dodgy regimes.... |
I’m starting to like you! At least you are consistent in your views;) |  | | |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 00:19 - Jul 10 with 1227 views | BlueBadger |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:43 - Jul 9 by Zapers |
I’m starting to like you! At least you are consistent in your views;) |
I'm not about t be making excuses for racist incompetents, here, PTA. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 07:52 - Jul 10 with 1150 views | Zapers |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:41 - Jul 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That is a bit harsh on Zapers (and on Harry). He is a bit like an annoying fly that could do with getting zapped but the zapping machine missed a p and was left zaping instead. I wonder if zaping is a bit like vaping.
Anyway, Zapers' posts are far less frequent, rambling and derogatory than Harry's. And Harry shows a level of logic that Zapers misses completely. |
Very sweet of you. | | | |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:00 - Jul 10 with 1147 views | DanTheMan |
I guess there are two scenarios of preferred.
1) someone who wouldn't get elected, someone like Truss or Patel.
2) someone who is the lesser evil, which would be Hunt or Tugendhat.
I'm surprised that the bookies favourite is now Sunak. Whilst I don't like the man particularly I will give some credit in sticking to his guns over the tax rises. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:49 - Jul 10 with 1122 views | unbelievablue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:00 - Jul 10 by DanTheMan |
I guess there are two scenarios of preferred.
1) someone who wouldn't get elected, someone like Truss or Patel.
2) someone who is the lesser evil, which would be Hunt or Tugendhat.
I'm surprised that the bookies favourite is now Sunak. Whilst I don't like the man particularly I will give some credit in sticking to his guns over the tax rises. |
Sunak's campaign seems to be predicated mainly on "I will fix the economy", which is..interesting. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:57 - Jul 10 with 1115 views | pointofblue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:49 - Jul 10 by unbelievablue |
Sunak's campaign seems to be predicated mainly on "I will fix the economy", which is..interesting. |
I wonder if the undertone is “I couldn’t as Chancellor because Number Ten blocked further changes”?
The state needs money - I wonder where all these pledging tax cutters would get it from? | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 09:05 - Jul 10 with 1104 views | DanTheMan |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:49 - Jul 10 by unbelievablue |
Sunak's campaign seems to be predicated mainly on "I will fix the economy", which is..interesting. |
Weird one isn't it?
Although I believe the suggestion is that he and Johnson didn't really agree on the economic side. Allies of convenience by the sounds of things.
And I'll give him a little more credit in that the economy was always going to be in a bit of a shambles from COVID + Ukraine. That said, our neighbours are doing better than us last I looked.
Meanwhile the rest of the candidates (as pointers said above) appear to be cutting tax across the board. I do wonder what will be cut in order to make them affordable. Whilst I think the tax rises were badly timed, I think they are probably necessary in the long run to pay for social care, or at least something similar.
Maybe once everything has stabilised though. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 09:34 - Jul 10 with 1085 views | BlueBadger |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:57 - Jul 10 by pointofblue |
I wonder if the undertone is “I couldn’t as Chancellor because Number Ten blocked further changes”?
The state needs money - I wonder where all these pledging tax cutters would get it from? |
At a guess, by cutting resources to the most vulnerable.
After all, it's worked so well for the economy over the past decade or so. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 09:57 - Jul 10 with 1074 views | pointofblue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 09:34 - Jul 10 by BlueBadger |
At a guess, by cutting resources to the most vulnerable.
After all, it's worked so well for the economy over the past decade or so. |
Hopefully the question will be asked so they can say outright. Or bluster, which is more likely. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:09 - Jul 10 with 1071 views | SomethingBlue |
Tugendhat seems a decent enough chap so I could probably stomach that, but it's not going to happen and the reality is that whoever they elect will be charged with continuing the highly dangerous path we are on ... so they just need booting out asap. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:10 - Jul 10 with 1062 views | Darth_Koont |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 09:05 - Jul 10 by DanTheMan |
Weird one isn't it?
Although I believe the suggestion is that he and Johnson didn't really agree on the economic side. Allies of convenience by the sounds of things.
And I'll give him a little more credit in that the economy was always going to be in a bit of a shambles from COVID + Ukraine. That said, our neighbours are doing better than us last I looked.
Meanwhile the rest of the candidates (as pointers said above) appear to be cutting tax across the board. I do wonder what will be cut in order to make them affordable. Whilst I think the tax rises were badly timed, I think they are probably necessary in the long run to pay for social care, or at least something similar.
Maybe once everything has stabilised though. |
Cutting taxes, especially corporation tax, is madness.
The cost of living crisis is an extra hit on low and middle earners, but the greatest problem has always been the underlying wage stagnation, wealth being hoovered upwards and a lack of investment.
Tax breaks, small government funnelling billions to their cronies instead and only appealing to workers on populist issues and culture wars is positively Trumpian. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:18 - Jul 10 with 1036 views | chicoazul |
Harold McMillan. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 988 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:49 - Jul 10 by unbelievablue |
Sunak's campaign seems to be predicated mainly on "I will fix the economy", which is..interesting. |
Not at all. It gives him clear differentiation from the others - and Johnson.
It’s also fairly obvious things are going to get much, much worse in the years ahead - remember he only has to appeal to 200,000 people with little connection to the real world. So having a bit of credibility when all the others are preaching the polar opposite to what they have been doing for the last 12 years, let alone 12 days is no bad thing I’d have thought.
Not that anyone can rule such a cabal of extremists sitting in safe seats. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:48 - Jul 10 with 993 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:38 - Jul 10 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not at all. It gives him clear differentiation from the others - and Johnson.
It’s also fairly obvious things are going to get much, much worse in the years ahead - remember he only has to appeal to 200,000 people with little connection to the real world. So having a bit of credibility when all the others are preaching the polar opposite to what they have been doing for the last 12 years, let alone 12 days is no bad thing I’d have thought.
Not that anyone can rule such a cabal of extremists sitting in safe seats. |
Sunak could very well bring Cummings back into the fold. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:02 - Jul 10 with 977 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:10 - Jul 10 by Darth_Koont |
Cutting taxes, especially corporation tax, is madness.
The cost of living crisis is an extra hit on low and middle earners, but the greatest problem has always been the underlying wage stagnation, wealth being hoovered upwards and a lack of investment.
Tax breaks, small government funnelling billions to their cronies instead and only appealing to workers on populist issues and culture wars is positively Trumpian. |
Not sure how you can gain investment into UK with high takes tbh and if you raise tax you raise tax avoidance. If tax was at a sensible rate then companies would just pay it.
Eire offer a lower tax rate than UK (around 15%????) and offers multinationals like google, Amazon and eBay about 2.5% I believe - everyone just pays it.
Whack it to 25% and everyone will avoid it - or go bust.
Personally I’d put it at 18% | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:10 - Jul 10 with 965 views | pointofblue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:09 - Jul 10 by SomethingBlue |
Tugendhat seems a decent enough chap so I could probably stomach that, but it's not going to happen and the reality is that whoever they elect will be charged with continuing the highly dangerous path we are on ... so they just need booting out asap. |
His outlook on the Israel/Palestine conflict concerns me, and the pledge to cut taxes without knowing which ones he’s referring to. The fact I feel like Sunak is the best option as he’s the only one to state the obvious.
Mordaunt is supposedly on the Conservative left when it comes to economic policy, but unaware of her policies so far. Being a Brexiteer is a worrying but perhaps she’s on the saner side of the argument. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:35 - Jul 10 with 926 views | GlasgowBlue |
A complete break from the past it would be Tom Tugendhat for me.
Not to win a general election, as the Tories have forfeited that right for a decade. But to get some decency and seriousness back into number ten for the next two years.
Hunt getting McVey on the ticket is like when Ken Clarke got John Redwood on his ticket in the late 90’s. |  |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:39 - Jul 10 with 925 views | Dubtractor |
I've not got enough knowledge of the likely policies of the candidates, though some clearly appall me, Patel, braverman etc.
Shapps just went up in my estimation though.
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:50 - Jul 10 with 916 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 22:35 - Jul 9 by BlueBadger |
He's racist, incompetent, went to nice schools and spent a lot of the last decade making excuses for dodgy regimes.... |
The more you say that the more people want to vote for him. Apparently. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:53 - Jul 10 with 912 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 11:39 - Jul 10 by Dubtractor |
I've not got enough knowledge of the likely policies of the candidates, though some clearly appall me, Patel, braverman etc.
Shapps just went up in my estimation though.
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Shapps in an odd one. A bit of a spiv with a slightly dodgy past, but a reasonably effective minister and communicator with liberal leanings.
PM would be an over promotion but a higher ranking cabinet position might suit. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 12:18 - Jul 10 with 884 views | WD19 |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 08:49 - Jul 10 by unbelievablue |
Sunak's campaign seems to be predicated mainly on "I will fix the economy", which is..interesting. |
Sunak is a hopeless media performer with all sorts of baggage. Dead in the water from the start. |  | | |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 12:21 - Jul 10 with 881 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 12:18 - Jul 10 by WD19 |
Sunak is a hopeless media performer with all sorts of baggage. Dead in the water from the start. |
I quite like Penny Mordaunt’s video
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 12:30 - Jul 10 with 869 views | pointofblue |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 12:21 - Jul 10 by GlasgowBlue |
I quite like Penny Mordaunt’s video
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A lot can be read into that; that she knows her policies won’t be universally popular within the party but hoping to get support via ‘trustworthy’-ness.
Very interested in what her policies will be. | |
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| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 12:39 - Jul 10 with 1303 views | jaykay |
| Who is your preferred next Tory leader (thus PM), and why? on 10:18 - Jul 10 by chicoazul |
Harold McMillan. |
well your prediction on boris staying the course didn't turn out well.
i'm not you were a johnson fan but you said he won't go when people saying boris is toast |  |
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