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Self-inflicted joylessness... 11:41 - Sep 9 with 4772 viewsportmanking

Where else in the world would this happen?

I'll go and draw my curtains and sit in a darkened room for the weekend instead then... that's what they want, right?
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 12:27 - Sep 9 with 1039 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

I suspect it would happen in many countries around the world.

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Perhaps they can take the opportunity.... on 12:30 - Sep 9 with 989 viewsmonytowbray

Perhaps they can take the opportunity.... on 12:23 - Sep 9 by Bloots

....to travel to London or Windsor to pay their respects instead?

#RIP


Utterly tone deaf.

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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 12:41 - Sep 9 with 965 viewsYarraBlue

Personally I was more upset at the death of Paul Mariner, he was more of a hero to me than an old lady in an expensive hat ever was. A black armband and a minute's silence would've been sufficient.

I know that plays to the gallery somewhat but it's still true.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 12:42 - Sep 9 with 960 viewsBarcaBlue

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 11:51 - Sep 9 by monytowbray

Tell that to people who have travelled from overseas for games. The Norway SC is over for this weekend. It's then also money and plans ruined. Easy to sit a short journey from your local stadium and say "Yeah no biggie".


My son just arrived in Ipswich and has tickets for him and his gf for the match tomorrow. Bit of a bummer but says he's going to try to watch the Barça match on tv somewhere tomorrow afternoon instead. It's an understandable inconvenience but there are other things available. Not a big deal really.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:17 - Sep 9 with 848 viewsmonytowbray

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 12:42 - Sep 9 by BarcaBlue

My son just arrived in Ipswich and has tickets for him and his gf for the match tomorrow. Bit of a bummer but says he's going to try to watch the Barça match on tv somewhere tomorrow afternoon instead. It's an understandable inconvenience but there are other things available. Not a big deal really.


it is a big deal if you've planned a weekend away around an event and it's cancelled though, isn't it? It will be less inconvenient or frustrating for some, more for others. If I flew out to Spain for Primavera and it got cancelled as I got off the plane for no good reason I'd probably find a plan B too and make the best of it, but it would still be lost money.

Others have already booked their trains or transport and won't get a refund. Money is tight for a lot of people, because your son and GF aren't too bothered doesn't mean it's okay.
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:19 - Sep 9 with 863 viewsMJallday

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 11:44 - Sep 9 by homer_123

Have I missed that it's a lockdown this weekend then? Can we not go and do something else instead?


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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:23 - Sep 9 with 851 viewsTractorFactor

RFU has said all rugby union to go ahead this weekend for respectful tribute. Anyone wanting to take in some live sport with a beer and pay tribute collectively can do so at local rugby club!
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:24 - Sep 9 with 847 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 12:41 - Sep 9 by YarraBlue

Personally I was more upset at the death of Paul Mariner, he was more of a hero to me than an old lady in an expensive hat ever was. A black armband and a minute's silence would've been sufficient.

I know that plays to the gallery somewhat but it's still true.


I genuinely found the news about Marcus Stewart much more upsetting.
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:24 - Sep 9 with 846 viewschicoazul

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 11:46 - Sep 9 by billlm

Time the establishment arrived in 2022 or was abolished, massive over reaction,


The more I see of the reactions online and IRL the more convinced I am that the monarchy is more popular than ever.
And it seems to me that this is not imposed “joylessness” but rather quite the opposite. It is a celebration of the Queens life and indeed of the rubrics and rubies of our unique system.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:24 - Sep 9 with 842 viewsRyorry

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 12:42 - Sep 9 by BarcaBlue

My son just arrived in Ipswich and has tickets for him and his gf for the match tomorrow. Bit of a bummer but says he's going to try to watch the Barça match on tv somewhere tomorrow afternoon instead. It's an understandable inconvenience but there are other things available. Not a big deal really.


Some people have travelled over from the USA & Norway.

Businesses are seriously struggling post-covid & with the massive hoicks in their energy bills. Many are small family businesses which could go under if they don't get big pay-days like Saturdays would be.

Very, very big deal for them.

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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:28 - Sep 9 with 829 viewsVaughan8

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:24 - Sep 9 by Ryorry

Some people have travelled over from the USA & Norway.

Businesses are seriously struggling post-covid & with the massive hoicks in their energy bills. Many are small family businesses which could go under if they don't get big pay-days like Saturdays would be.

Very, very big deal for them.


Surely there could be small business who benefit from this?

People go somewhere else other than the football.

Small cafes in parks etc might get more people there now. More ice creams sold etc.

Football games can get called off for numerous reasons. If this is the business model to only survive for Saturday when the footballs on, then I would suggest it is flawed.
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:31 - Sep 9 with 813 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:24 - Sep 9 by chicoazul

The more I see of the reactions online and IRL the more convinced I am that the monarchy is more popular than ever.
And it seems to me that this is not imposed “joylessness” but rather quite the opposite. It is a celebration of the Queens life and indeed of the rubrics and rubies of our unique system.
As so often significant TWTD opinions seem to be very much in the minority off this board.


I’m not sure that’s true. Even the comments on the Royal obsessed Daily Mail were anti football postponement.

It seems love of football trumps love of the Royals.
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:31 - Sep 9 with 813 viewsMattinLondon

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:19 - Sep 9 by MJallday

I’ll be playing GTA V online

It’s what she would have wanted


Just don’t get chased by the police in a tunnel.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:35 - Sep 9 with 785 viewsmonytowbray

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:28 - Sep 9 by Vaughan8

Surely there could be small business who benefit from this?

People go somewhere else other than the football.

Small cafes in parks etc might get more people there now. More ice creams sold etc.

Football games can get called off for numerous reasons. If this is the business model to only survive for Saturday when the footballs on, then I would suggest it is flawed.


Football usually gets called off for objectively agreeable reasons though. Same with any event. All are at risk of cancellation at any time, difference here is this is a choice.

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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:35 - Sep 9 with 795 viewsRyorry

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:28 - Sep 9 by Vaughan8

Surely there could be small business who benefit from this?

People go somewhere else other than the football.

Small cafes in parks etc might get more people there now. More ice creams sold etc.

Football games can get called off for numerous reasons. If this is the business model to only survive for Saturday when the footballs on, then I would suggest it is flawed.


Not in the volume footie gets - crowds of 25K in a single concentrated area, twice. Businesses gear up for that, & were hardly expecting winter weather or another lockdown.

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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 14:49 - Sep 9 with 754 viewsArnoldMoorhen

I'm not a monarchist. At all. The failure of Her Majesty to intervene when Johnson illegally prorogued Parliament means I have lost faith in the "politically independent last check and balance" argument.

But...


In any country in the world, when a Head of State dies in office there is a period of national Mourning.

The official protocol bans all live entertainment for the period of National Mourning. That would mean the following weekend's games as well. The move to "guidance" and leaving it in the hands of venues and governing bodies is a modernising shift.

So, whilst I'm not a monarchist, and believe that Britain needs wholesale electoral reform away from the corrupt First Past the Post system and "hereditaries, cronies, donors and lickarsers" second chamber, we have the system we currently have. Queen Elizabeth II did as well as any fallible human being could have done with navigating a mind-bendingly fast-changing era, and did so with whole-hearted commitment, grace and dignity.

I can wholeheartedly respect her for that, and don't think that a toned down period of National Mourning is inappropriate, including "voluntary" cancellations of some events.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:07 - Sep 9 with 702 viewsBarcaBlue

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 14:24 - Sep 9 by Ryorry

Some people have travelled over from the USA & Norway.

Businesses are seriously struggling post-covid & with the massive hoicks in their energy bills. Many are small family businesses which could go under if they don't get big pay-days like Saturdays would be.

Very, very big deal for them.


...and my son travelled from Catalunya specifically this weekend for the Cambridge match. His only getaway this year. But matches are moved because of international call ups, train strikes, tv schedules, weather or whatever and I don't remember people complaining about knock-on effects to local business. It's not a big deal in the context that it's a pretty regular occurrence.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:22 - Sep 9 with 679 viewsSarge

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 11:44 - Sep 9 by Bloots

,,,,still leave your house.

And you can definitely open the curtains, if you don't want to then you can just put the light on so that it's not dark.

You could go out for a nice walk, or go down the pub, maybe go for a nice meal with your family.

In fact you can do pretty much anything other than go to the football and watch sport.

It's one game, it's not the end of the world.


Sorry but it doesn’t seem very respectful to enjoy spending some time with your family whilst another one is grieving does it.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:33 - Sep 9 with 634 viewsFrimleyBlue

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:22 - Sep 9 by Sarge

Sorry but it doesn’t seem very respectful to enjoy spending some time with your family whilst another one is grieving does it.


Happens everyday doesn't it?

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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:44 - Sep 9 with 619 viewsRobTheMonk

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:33 - Sep 9 by FrimleyBlue

Happens everyday doesn't it?


Probably every couple of minutes in the UK.

If we hadn't of been through Covid lockdowns and economic struggles, then I would perhaps be more sympathetic to postponing.
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 15:55 - Sep 9 with 597 viewslegoman

So spot on.

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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 16:52 - Sep 9 with 556 viewsFrankfurtBlue

We live in a democracy, a free society, well relatively speaking anyway, so those that want to mourn by staying away from football should be allowed to do so, and those that want to go to football should also be allowed to do so.
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I'm pretty sure that you can... on 17:17 - Sep 9 with 518 viewsRadioOrwell

I'm pretty sure that you can... on 15:22 - Sep 9 by Sarge

Sorry but it doesn’t seem very respectful to enjoy spending some time with your family whilst another one is grieving does it.


This is a joke right ?
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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 17:21 - Sep 9 with 488 viewslegoman

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 11:44 - Sep 9 by homer_123

Have I missed that it's a lockdown this weekend then? Can we not go and do something else instead?


No, our hearts are set. We are being denied/banned from our personal choice of celebrating/mourning. I am now anti everything and do not know when I will recover. Grrrr.

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Self-inflicted joylessness... on 17:23 - Sep 9 with 483 viewsBloomBlue

Self-inflicted joylessness... on 16:52 - Sep 9 by FrankfurtBlue

We live in a democracy, a free society, well relatively speaking anyway, so those that want to mourn by staying away from football should be allowed to do so, and those that want to go to football should also be allowed to do so.


I agree, but should also cover players and staff at the club. The game should go ahead tomorrow but if some of the Town players want to mourn instead they should be allowed to miss the game.
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