| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley 20:26 - Oct 1 with 4517 views | FromReuserWithLove |
Instead of Cook a couple of years back. Well, thank Christ they had no sway at the club. Always offered up a horrendous brand of football and always will. |  | | |  |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:25 - Oct 2 with 1210 views | itfcjoe |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:04 - Oct 2 by unstableblue |
I think you raise an interesting point.
Cowley would have perhaps become like another Mick. A good manager; we would have become more effective than we were under Cook. But all the while fans would have a nagging feeling they weren’t enjoying the football, and the crowds wouldn’t have returned in their droves.
Cook didn’t do what it said on the tin - perhaps it really was his assistant at Wigan. We were expecting attractive passing football at pace. Whereas we got amateur hour. Still I enjoyed Pompey and Wycombe away so much under Cook! When the system did actually work.
I wonder if Chesterfield will fail again? Deadpools Wrexham and their big crowds and resurgent Notts County look favourites. |
If Cowley had got an instant lift there is a chance we could have gone straight up with them, we were level on points with 6th with an easy run in when Cook came in, and at that point Evans may not have sold to GameChanger |  |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:27 - Oct 2 with 1189 views | IpswichKnight |
They lost there 1st game this season and slipped out of the top 2 with Wrexham and Notts County now above them.
I’d have taken the Cowleys at the time they were the best of the bunch that was being named. I don’t think any of us saw KM coming ( another slap to the ITK idiots ) and we have been extremely lucky to get him. |  | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:30 - Oct 2 with 1186 views | J2BLUE |
I was one of them.
Cowley is underrated.
Portsmouth will be top 6. I'm still impressed with the business they did in the summer.
EDIT: Just to be very clear, I am VERY happy with McKenna and would not swap him for anyone. [Post edited 2 Oct 2022 9:43]
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 11:24 - Oct 2 with 1138 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:30 - Oct 2 by J2BLUE |
I was one of them.
Cowley is underrated.
Portsmouth will be top 6. I'm still impressed with the business they did in the summer.
EDIT: Just to be very clear, I am VERY happy with McKenna and would not swap him for anyone. [Post edited 2 Oct 2022 9:43]
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I was one too, as I thought the Cowleys would get us up, efficiently if not beautifully. I think McKenna can get us up beautifully, so that's better, but as others have said, we wouldn't even have known about McKenna at the time. |  |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 11:43 - Oct 2 with 1126 views | tractorboy1978 |
Cowley is a pragmatist and a decent manager. Any manager that comes to PR this season and tries to play expansive football against us needs their head testing. | | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:01 - Oct 2 with 1076 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 08:45 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
We were recruiting for a League 1 side on a Championship budget, so in my view couldn’t fail to recruit well.
We’d have recruited differently without him, but when you look at money spent and wages paid, is there anyone bar Burns who would be seen as a really smart bit of recruitment? |
Oh come on! At least try and be a little objective. We understand you weren't a fan of Cook and he upset Luke Chambers but it doesn't mean you have discredit everything he does. It would be nothing like KM has achieved but who's tho say he wouldn't have us up the top of given time as he has done at every other club he's managed - without a big budget?
You may also shower the club and current regime with a 'false kindness' but what is there to suggest Cowley is better than Cook? He certainly hasn't achieved as much. | | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:10 - Oct 2 with 1066 views | itfcjoe |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:01 - Oct 2 by FromReuserWithLove |
Oh come on! At least try and be a little objective. We understand you weren't a fan of Cook and he upset Luke Chambers but it doesn't mean you have discredit everything he does. It would be nothing like KM has achieved but who's tho say he wouldn't have us up the top of given time as he has done at every other club he's managed - without a big budget?
You may also shower the club and current regime with a 'false kindness' but what is there to suggest Cowley is better than Cook? He certainly hasn't achieved as much. |
Cowley has done a good job everywhere he has been, whereas Cook did elsewhere then did a terrible one here - if Cowley had come here and done a rubbish job then I’d rate Cook higher than him.
I think Cook was sold a pup here, he came here under Evans as the man, the man to do everything, but ended up in a senior management set up cluttered with bodies and with nowhere near the role promised. So whilst there are mitigations, none of it gets away from the fact he did a rubbish job here and cost us two shots at promotion out of this league.
Are Morsy and Walton good signings? Course - but they are Champ players earning Champ money. Someone like Leif Davis is comparable, the minimum expectation for their signing is that they are top players at this level | |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:21 - Oct 2 with 1058 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 08:45 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
We were recruiting for a League 1 side on a Championship budget, so in my view couldn’t fail to recruit well.
We’d have recruited differently without him, but when you look at money spent and wages paid, is there anyone bar Burns who would be seen as a really smart bit of recruitment? |
Walton and Chaplin and possibly Evans too.
It is a fair point. Overall Cook was dreadful but the point that he brought in some very decent players is a fair one. He also brought in a good number of not-so-good ones and unbalanced squad. Add to that we could easily have seen Donacien and Woolfenden leave you could argue that Cook might have done more damage than he did.
I never got the love for the Cowleys. Many couldn't at the time too but there were a few who liked the idea of them. |  |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:33 - Oct 2 with 1055 views | PhilTWTD |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:25 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
If Cowley had got an instant lift there is a chance we could have gone straight up with them, we were level on points with 6th with an easy run in when Cook came in, and at that point Evans may not have sold to GameChanger |
If he'd started here how he started at Pompey, he'd have been sacked. Job was under threat when we won 4-0 there. Would never have happened anyway, was never in the running for the job here at any point. |  | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:11 - Oct 2 with 1007 views | itfcjoe |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:33 - Oct 2 by PhilTWTD |
If he'd started here how he started at Pompey, he'd have been sacked. Job was under threat when we won 4-0 there. Would never have happened anyway, was never in the running for the job here at any point. |
They were level on points going into that game with us, so unless Cook’s job was going to be in doubt if we lost that night then it’s surely the same? And they’d made a better fist in 20/21 of getting in top 6 from a worse position. | |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:13 - Oct 2 with 992 views | itfcjoe |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:21 - Oct 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Walton and Chaplin and possibly Evans too.
It is a fair point. Overall Cook was dreadful but the point that he brought in some very decent players is a fair one. He also brought in a good number of not-so-good ones and unbalanced squad. Add to that we could easily have seen Donacien and Woolfenden leave you could argue that Cook might have done more damage than he did.
I never got the love for the Cowleys. Many couldn't at the time too but there were a few who liked the idea of them. |
Hard to see Evans as a good piece of business when he was rubbish under Cook though, a manager who has had him for hundreds of games couldn’t get anything out of him and first thing McK did was switch him and Morsy and both looked miles better. | |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:26 - Oct 2 with 955 views | GlasgowBlue |
Three points off the play offs with 16 games remaining and Marcus Evans as owner.
I don't see how the Cowley's could have done a worse job than Cook in the short term.
We'll never know, but it's irrelevant now as we have Game Changer, Ashton and McKenna now. Why look back? [Post edited 2 Oct 2022 16:52]
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 19:31 - Oct 2 with 885 views | PhilTWTD |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:11 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
They were level on points going into that game with us, so unless Cook’s job was going to be in doubt if we lost that night then it’s surely the same? And they’d made a better fist in 20/21 of getting in top 6 from a worse position. |
It was evidently on pretty shaky ground as he was sacked not that long afterwards. As was the case with Cook, I don't think Cowley would have suited the new ownership here. | | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 20:40 - Oct 2 with 858 views | itfcjoe |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 19:31 - Oct 2 by PhilTWTD |
It was evidently on pretty shaky ground as he was sacked not that long afterwards. As was the case with Cook, I don't think Cowley would have suited the new ownership here. |
No, but the appointment was made under old and think they’d have been a very good fit under that regime | |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 20:48 - Oct 2 with 849 views | southnorfolkblue |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 20:59 - Oct 1 by homer_123 |
The core of this team? |
Walton, Edmundson, Morsy, Evans, Burns, Chaplin
If that isn’t the core of a team… | |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 22:15 - Oct 2 with 805 views | PhilTWTD |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 20:40 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
No, but the appointment was made under old and think they’d have been a very good fit under that regime |
Not sure, I don't think ME would have appointed him on the strength of his CV. Having had his fingers burnt with Paul Hurst he seemed to revert to more experienced bosses. Cowley would love to have come here though, but I don't believe he was ever in the running at any point despite getting his name in the frame. | | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 12:03 - Oct 3 with 655 views | mrfixit426 |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 09:30 - Oct 2 by J2BLUE |
I was one of them.
Cowley is underrated.
Portsmouth will be top 6. I'm still impressed with the business they did in the summer.
EDIT: Just to be very clear, I am VERY happy with McKenna and would not swap him for anyone. [Post edited 2 Oct 2022 9:43]
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Totally agree with this.
Interestingly, noises coming from the Portsmouth fans are saying it's the best football they're seeing now than it has been for a long time. The game at Ipswich was an anomaly, obviously because they couldn't really come and have a go. That would have been suicide.
I have a feeling Danny still has half an eye on the job here, particularly with his measured post match comments. It's a shame he's become a bit of a pantomime villain at PR. |  | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 12:33 - Oct 3 with 624 views | TractorCam |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 23:11 - Oct 1 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I'm speculating but I doubt he had quite as much to do with all of these as you might think. |
Morsy said himself he wouldn't have dropped down to League One for anyone other than Cook. |  |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:39 - Oct 3 with 582 views | GeoffSentence |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 22:15 - Oct 2 by PhilTWTD |
Not sure, I don't think ME would have appointed him on the strength of his CV. Having had his fingers burnt with Paul Hurst he seemed to revert to more experienced bosses. Cowley would love to have come here though, but I don't believe he was ever in the running at any point despite getting his name in the frame. |
Given his comment after the game on Saturday, when he was very careful not to have a dig at the Town fans who held the ball, I suspect he would still fancy a shot at the Town job at some point. |  |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:42 - Oct 3 with 573 views | Kieran_Knows |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 20:36 - Oct 1 by Swansea_Blue |
And me. Cook was a shoite Paul Jewell. |
That's harsh. Cooks a very good manager, and although things fell apart here, he'd been successful elsewhere and at least tried to play football the right way. He's also a top top person as well. I appreciate his press conferences were spiky at times, but I know first hand he wasn't like that with people behind closed doors. |  |
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| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:33 - Oct 3 with 532 views | ibbleobble |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:33 - Oct 2 by PhilTWTD |
If he'd started here how he started at Pompey, he'd have been sacked. Job was under threat when we won 4-0 there. Would never have happened anyway, was never in the running for the job here at any point. |
I’m surprised he lasted to be honest but given the financial constraints down there, I think there was always going to be a certain level of dispensation and it’s paying dividends now - kudos to the board and the job he’s doing. However, it has a shelf-life and our time under Mick will be an inevitable parallel at Fratton Park in my opinion.
I’d take the hope and promise of turning up each week to seeing if Cook’s side could get the football flowing we know he can produce over Cowley’s inevitably dull pragmatism. This either / or conversation was done to death and archived when Mick left and should rightly stay there. A new chapter now and despite the time sync I’m glad we wished for better. | | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:50 - Oct 3 with 531 views | Wickets |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 14:42 - Oct 3 by Kieran_Knows |
That's harsh. Cooks a very good manager, and although things fell apart here, he'd been successful elsewhere and at least tried to play football the right way. He's also a top top person as well. I appreciate his press conferences were spiky at times, but I know first hand he wasn't like that with people behind closed doors. |
I never fancied Cowley as our manager but to be fair he always seems to do ok . Cook's problem seems to be losing his assistant and then being to pig headed to admit he needed one add to that 2 inexperienced coaches . Plus he is a scruffy git ! |  | | |
| I vividly remember a few on here clamouring for Cowley on 16:54 - Oct 3 with 527 views | blueasfook |
Loved him in The Professionals. He kept Bodie and Doyle in check. |  |
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