| Whittaker 20:20 - Dec 30 with 22302 views | Bowls1e |
As has been widely mooted he’s going to be recalled by Swansea in the next day with Derby & us bidding for him. Argyle have tried to keep him but can’t compete financially. I know it’s been rumoured of our interest but this has come from a contact at Plymouth end. Apologies if wrong & I’m not trying to be a def info merchant, but if true then our intent is clear. Believe he’s played for Derby before but could McKenna & Ashton tempt him here. |  | | |  |
| Whittaker on 11:12 - Dec 31 with 5084 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Whittaker on 11:08 - Dec 31 by Metal_Hacker |
Unless it’s a purchase there’s no way I can see him coming here
A few grand a month isn’t gonna interest Swansea if we pay all or a higher percentage of wages
Would love him here. Lovely player but ……
I’ll gladly have Keane ,Twine on loan (I wish ) and JCH |
Plymouth will have to stump up more cash to keep him on loan, just like we did with Bonne last season. Any loan that has been successful in the first half of the season will be getting renegotiated in this window. |  | | |
| Whittaker on 11:28 - Dec 31 with 4943 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Whittaker on 11:12 - Dec 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Plymouth will have to stump up more cash to keep him on loan, just like we did with Bonne last season. Any loan that has been successful in the first half of the season will be getting renegotiated in this window. |
Hang on, we paid more to keep bonne here after xmas? |  |
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| Whittaker on 11:33 - Dec 31 with 4909 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Whittaker on 11:28 - Dec 31 by FrimleyBlue |
Hang on, we paid more to keep bonne here after xmas? |
Yep. | | | |
| Whittaker on 11:54 - Dec 31 with 4800 views | SheffordBlue |
Alan Nixon has stories on both Swansea and Ipswich (but not Plymouth) out tomorrow. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but his hit rate on transfers is actually pretty good. | |
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| Whittaker on 12:10 - Dec 31 with 4710 views | Vegtablue |
Not seen mention on the Plymouth website that it was made up yet. My two cents are, Swansea have benefitted as much as they could have hoped for from the first half of his loan spell. I can't see him attracting much higher value from continuing his form there - potentially he may depreciate if he doesn't continue his POTY contender form so far - potential suitors will have seen enough. I think Swansea should play him or make a decision! | | | |
| Whittaker on 12:28 - Dec 31 with 4598 views | Simonds92 |
| Whittaker on 11:54 - Dec 31 by SheffordBlue |
Alan Nixon has stories on both Swansea and Ipswich (but not Plymouth) out tomorrow. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but his hit rate on transfers is actually pretty good. |
I don't think he has ever been right on a single piece of itfc news. Random twitter accounts that make up stories for attention have a better strike rate. | | | |
| Whittaker on 12:34 - Dec 31 with 4574 views | Wakh |
| Whittaker on 11:54 - Dec 31 by SheffordBlue |
Alan Nixon has stories on both Swansea and Ipswich (but not Plymouth) out tomorrow. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but his hit rate on transfers is actually pretty good. |
Nixon was on about Jesurun Rak-Sakyi last week. i going for an update on that. | | | |
| Whittaker on 13:11 - Dec 31 with 4424 views | gtsb1966 |
| Whittaker on 12:10 - Dec 31 by Vegtablue |
Not seen mention on the Plymouth website that it was made up yet. My two cents are, Swansea have benefitted as much as they could have hoped for from the first half of his loan spell. I can't see him attracting much higher value from continuing his form there - potentially he may depreciate if he doesn't continue his POTY contender form so far - potential suitors will have seen enough. I think Swansea should play him or make a decision! |
The site admins list of incomings and outgoings is interesting. Does he know something?
https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/january-transfer-window-rumour-round-up.120984/ |  | | |
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| Whittaker on 13:13 - Dec 31 with 4396 views | Metal_Hacker |
It’s a weird post either way isn’t it |  |
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| Whittaker on 13:16 - Dec 31 with 4366 views | gtsb1966 |
| Whittaker on 13:13 - Dec 31 by Metal_Hacker |
It’s a weird post either way isn’t it |
It is if he is just speculating | | | |
| Whittaker on 13:24 - Dec 31 with 4275 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
That thread is titled rumour round up!
Doh! |  |
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| Whittaker on 13:27 - Dec 31 with 4246 views | ITFC_Josh |
| Whittaker on 13:24 - Dec 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That thread is titled rumour round up!
Doh! |
And within that thread there has been lots of talk about other players coming in or leaving and they haven’t been put at the top… |  | | |
| Whittaker on 14:23 - Dec 31 with 4051 views | Wakh |
I live between Exeter and Plymouth and watch both occasionally. I know quite a few fans of both teams, but no one likely to be in the know. However, the rumour down here Is that we have placed a bid in excess of £1.5m for Whitaker which Swansea are likely to accept as they are keen to add significantly to their squad this window. Apparently, Argyle are only picking up around 25% of his wages.
Not saying I believe it but that has come from a serious Argyle fan. Worth considering though that an Exeter super fan told me we had signed Sam Nombe in the summer. | | | |
| Whittaker on 16:20 - Dec 31 with 3774 views | ITFC_Jenx |
Does Whittaker count as an U21 player this season? |  | | |
| Whittaker on 16:43 - Dec 31 with 3641 views | Wakh |
| Whittaker on 16:20 - Dec 31 by ITFC_Jenx |
Does Whittaker count as an U21 player this season? |
Pretty sure he does. | | | |
| Whittaker on 22:27 - Dec 31 with 3100 views | itfcjoe |
Plymouth had a bid rejected for Harvey Knibbs so looks as though recruiting to replace him as he’s a very similar type |  |
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| Whittaker on 22:33 - Dec 31 with 3028 views | ITFC_Josh |
| Whittaker on 22:27 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Plymouth had a bid rejected for Harvey Knibbs so looks as though recruiting to replace him as he’s a very similar type |
Saw that. Schumacher seems certain that they aren’t loosing any loans players though, so seems odd. | | | |
| Whittaker on 23:07 - Dec 31 with 2845 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Whittaker on 14:23 - Dec 31 by Wakh |
I live between Exeter and Plymouth and watch both occasionally. I know quite a few fans of both teams, but no one likely to be in the know. However, the rumour down here Is that we have placed a bid in excess of £1.5m for Whitaker which Swansea are likely to accept as they are keen to add significantly to their squad this window. Apparently, Argyle are only picking up around 25% of his wages.
Not saying I believe it but that has come from a serious Argyle fan. Worth considering though that an Exeter super fan told me we had signed Sam Nombe in the summer. |
From what I’ve seen from the owners down here I reckon they’d bite our hand off for that much. They’re like a cheapskate version of Evans who’ve put in a CEO who makes decisions as ‘good’ as Evans’. He’s seemingly (inexplicably) not wanted. He’s never been given a proper chance down here for some reason. I think he needs a system that gives him space (so better in a team that breaks) and is less effective with a slow buildup. Not sure where that would leave him with us, as we do both. Him and Chaplin behind a number 9 would be his best position. The only trouble is that number 10s aren’t a priority for us. |  |
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| Whittaker on 23:36 - Dec 31 with 2730 views | Pique |
| Whittaker on 23:07 - Dec 31 by Swansea_Blue |
From what I’ve seen from the owners down here I reckon they’d bite our hand off for that much. They’re like a cheapskate version of Evans who’ve put in a CEO who makes decisions as ‘good’ as Evans’. He’s seemingly (inexplicably) not wanted. He’s never been given a proper chance down here for some reason. I think he needs a system that gives him space (so better in a team that breaks) and is less effective with a slow buildup. Not sure where that would leave him with us, as we do both. Him and Chaplin behind a number 9 would be his best position. The only trouble is that number 10s aren’t a priority for us. |
I'm not so sure no 10s aren't a priority for us, especially if you take the slightly longer view. I think Andy Warren was saying in the EADT that it could be a position we focus on this window, and while I was a bit surprised at first I could see his point when I thought about it.
Our system is highly reliant on having two effective no 10s. We're lucky to have Chaplin and Harness, both of whom have done well, but beyond them our options for cover/competition have looked a bit limited (and even Chaplin and Harness have blown hot and cold a bit at times this season).
I love Aluko, but if we go up is he going to be playing for us in the Championship? I hope so, but maybe, maybe not. Beyond him our cover for those positions has been Jackson, John-Jules and Edwards, none of whom have ever really convinced in that role, although they've done OK here and there.
I can see the logic in recruiting Whittaker as a 10. It would be both an upgrade on what we have and a nod to a possible future in a higher division. |  | | |
| Whittaker on 01:05 - Jan 1 with 2505 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Whittaker on 22:33 - Dec 31 by ITFC_Josh |
Saw that. Schumacher seems certain that they aren’t loosing any loans players though, so seems odd. |
Of course he’s going to say that though. |  |
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| Whittaker on 01:06 - Jan 1 with 2501 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Whittaker on 12:28 - Dec 31 by Simonds92 |
I don't think he has ever been right on a single piece of itfc news. Random twitter accounts that make up stories for attention have a better strike rate. |
That’s just not true. | |
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| Whittaker on 02:30 - Jan 1 with 2377 views | chicoazul |
| Whittaker on 12:28 - Dec 31 by Simonds92 |
I don't think he has ever been right on a single piece of itfc news. Random twitter accounts that make up stories for attention have a better strike rate. |
Wrong, Nixon is very good. |  |
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| Whittaker on 04:45 - Jan 1 with 2268 views | The_Romford_Blue |
The club secretary posts on there and seems to have suggested he’s leaving. |  |
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| Whittaker on 10:50 - Jan 1 with 1857 views | Vegtablue |
Special mention to Plymouth forum poster Jannerz, who receives a degree of my sympathy but is all over the place drawing ethical lines that keep burning his feet.
Plymouth would never try to sign another team's loan player, they're much above that and proudly so. Plymouth would never try to sign a fellow league one player midway through a season, they're much above that and proudly so. Earley is different because Stevenage are aiming for promotion in a league below, no matter to Plymouth. And their manager's put on a good face so Stevenage are actually quite thrilled to lose 'their' best player. Knibbs is different because Cambridge are trying to survive in League One, no matter that their hopes may be squashed at Plymouth's expense. That's of no moral bother to a team chasing promotion. Whittaker is invaluable to Plymouth's top two hopes, but isn't being considered by Ipswich as a valuable potential asset. He is a player to be absorbed into the squad in order to spite a rival. Why would we want a player of that ability on the pitch? The latest stance is, football clubs are ethically fine to probe and pillage in all circumstances except where two clubs are rivals with the same goals - that is beyond the pale because it may be about to happen to Plymouth.
Check back into reality and Plymouth have benefitted from a player (players let's be honest) whom they don't have the financial means to even pay the bulk of his (probably their) wages to, who has been the difference on multiple occasions against other sides only putting out players within their financial means. Is this fair or is it unethical? Answer, it's football. The idea that Whittaker is truly their player at this point in time, given the above circumstances, is quite mad, however. If he were truly theirs, they would simply be able to rebuff any interest. Obviously they can't because Swansea deal with Whittaker's banking, Plymouth deal with the points he banks them. Whether we're able to sign him is a separate matter.
*I appreciate this has been a waste of my time 😂 [Post edited 1 Jan 2023 10:53]
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| Whittaker on 11:14 - Jan 1 with 1698 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Whittaker on 10:50 - Jan 1 by Vegtablue |
Special mention to Plymouth forum poster Jannerz, who receives a degree of my sympathy but is all over the place drawing ethical lines that keep burning his feet.
Plymouth would never try to sign another team's loan player, they're much above that and proudly so. Plymouth would never try to sign a fellow league one player midway through a season, they're much above that and proudly so. Earley is different because Stevenage are aiming for promotion in a league below, no matter to Plymouth. And their manager's put on a good face so Stevenage are actually quite thrilled to lose 'their' best player. Knibbs is different because Cambridge are trying to survive in League One, no matter that their hopes may be squashed at Plymouth's expense. That's of no moral bother to a team chasing promotion. Whittaker is invaluable to Plymouth's top two hopes, but isn't being considered by Ipswich as a valuable potential asset. He is a player to be absorbed into the squad in order to spite a rival. Why would we want a player of that ability on the pitch? The latest stance is, football clubs are ethically fine to probe and pillage in all circumstances except where two clubs are rivals with the same goals - that is beyond the pale because it may be about to happen to Plymouth.
Check back into reality and Plymouth have benefitted from a player (players let's be honest) whom they don't have the financial means to even pay the bulk of his (probably their) wages to, who has been the difference on multiple occasions against other sides only putting out players within their financial means. Is this fair or is it unethical? Answer, it's football. The idea that Whittaker is truly their player at this point in time, given the above circumstances, is quite mad, however. If he were truly theirs, they would simply be able to rebuff any interest. Obviously they can't because Swansea deal with Whittaker's banking, Plymouth deal with the points he banks them. Whether we're able to sign him is a separate matter.
*I appreciate this has been a waste of my time 😂 [Post edited 1 Jan 2023 10:53]
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I'm quite enjoying watching the meltdown on the PASOTI forum  .
Football is dog eat dog. How many times over the years have our best players been enticed away by the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, etc. |  |
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