| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) 10:40 - Feb 1 with 8700 views | BlueBadger |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:11 - Feb 1 with 1251 views | Chondzoresk |
Education, like our Health service is very neglected. Staff working up and beyond the call of duty. Schools that aren’t fit for purpose due to under funding. I had to look after many covid infected children at my school who had gone down with symptoms without the simplest of PPE to do so at the start. Underfunding by the government have made schools (not all) unfit to learn in.
Teachers and other staff work long hours. Prep, courses such as safeguarding, marking, contacting difficult parents, open evenings, I know several NQTs who were working 14 hours a day and they were shot. I also know several who have walked away from teaching too.
It’s very easy to have a go at teachers, but difficult to understand how much hard work it entails in getting our children educated to a high level, but for a low level return of pay.
Let them and others strike. I am support staff, not a teacher I hasten to add. |  | | |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:19 - Feb 1 with 1219 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:27 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
That's exceptionally daft, even for you old bean. You do not get threatened with fines if your child is ill. If you, or anyone, are being threatened with fines for illness, you should complain to your school and if that doesn't work report them to the DfE or Ofsted.
https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-school |
Good link SB and one I'll share on the parents group.
It's something that's continously been discussed as the letters parents are getting are pathetic and follow any duration a child is off school sick.
The headteacher is blind to it all and just continues to say they are following protocols etc. But it's beyond a joke and making some parents send in Ill children because if it. |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:19 - Feb 1 with 1215 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:14 - Feb 1 by mo_itfc |
If you have an ill child, then the absense is justified. You're not getting fined for illness.
You're either trolling or a moron. |
It's not justified according to the school In question. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:21 - Feb 1 with 1213 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:41 - Feb 1 by davblue |
you need to call the school to inform them of the illness that would help!! |
Of course.
Last one was when son had covid. Phoned up daily to give update even showed positive test etc.
Still got a letter halfway through though. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:24 - Feb 1 with 1212 views | nodge_blue |
Im a bit on the fence with this.
My partner as a teacher assistant on a third of the teachers pay is now in today having to take the class instead of the absent teacher. |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:33 - Feb 1 with 1173 views | Guthrum |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:24 - Feb 1 by hype313 |
Whilst it's an inconvenience for myself and my wife, I'd much prefer my Children to be taught by well paid, motivated teachers so pay them accordingly is what I say.
My only concern is that this current government don't have any appetite to engage with any of the unions, and whilst I support them, after 2 years of Covid I am worried about the disruption this may cause for my children's education as they've had a series of lost days in their early years already. |
The biggest issue is going to be running out of teachers, as they are leaving in droves (including the newly qualified), as much, if not more, due to the workload and lack of support than the wages. |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:38 - Feb 1 with 1125 views | Fixed_It |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:17 - Feb 1 by meekreech |
I would like to know what advice career teachers are giving to students .
It appears to me that they have to offer the following choices for careers.
First option is a job with more strikes so that very little work actually happens and the rest of economy is allowed to stagnate.
The second option is a job that does not spend time striking allowing more work to be performed and the economy to improve.
Services funded from the public purse should have the right to strike removed as in the long run it is not just inconvenient for the public but also potentially harmful in many ways. |
Are you for real?! |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:43 - Feb 1 with 1099 views | giant_stow |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:33 - Feb 1 by Guthrum |
The biggest issue is going to be running out of teachers, as they are leaving in droves (including the newly qualified), as much, if not more, due to the workload and lack of support than the wages. |
This is a by the by question, not a taking side question: What sort of jobs do teachers leave to go and do? I gather they're in demand when they do choose to quit, but wondered in what sort of sectors... |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:45 - Feb 1 with 1091 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:24 - Feb 1 by nodge_blue |
Im a bit on the fence with this.
My partner as a teacher assistant on a third of the teachers pay is now in today having to take the class instead of the absent teacher. |
She should not be taking the class unless she normally would do. If she is in a union she should report the fact that she was asked to and have refused to do so. No union member should be covering an absence due to strike action. I am unsure whether someone who is not in a union may do so. Anyone not in a union has the right to join one. |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:49 - Feb 1 with 1084 views | Churchman |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 10:47 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Thanks Badger. Hearing of and reading lots of things trying to paint teachers in a greedy and lazy light. The best thing to ask those doing so is "why aren't you doing it then?"
I like the quote below: "A huge element is the fact that we have to protect the education sector and the teaching profession going forward. We have to do something about it, otherwise nobody will want to become a teacher."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/teacher-strikes-to-begin-and-this-school-i |
Mrs C was a teacher so I have a little bit of an idea what it involves. Teachers are not greedy or lazy. Anything but. For most it’s a vocation. The fact that politicians have sought to downgrade it from the profession is is and should be reflects on the the politicians. Badly - like most things.
Its a demanding, difficult job and not one I’d be capable of doing in a million years. They have my full support. [Post edited 1 Feb 2023 12:51]
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:53 - Feb 1 with 1060 views | giant_stow |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:45 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
She should not be taking the class unless she normally would do. If she is in a union she should report the fact that she was asked to and have refused to do so. No union member should be covering an absence due to strike action. I am unsure whether someone who is not in a union may do so. Anyone not in a union has the right to join one. |
A lot of support staff seem to be on freelance contracts. Well mrs Ullaa as piano teacher is at least, but luckily wasn't down for any in-school stuff today or it would have been a day without pay, without being able to strike. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:55 - Feb 1 with 1052 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:43 - Feb 1 by giant_stow |
This is a by the by question, not a taking side question: What sort of jobs do teachers leave to go and do? I gather they're in demand when they do choose to quit, but wondered in what sort of sectors... |
The ones I know and can think of are:
private sector education;
starting own business in a variety of fields;
career break;
working for someone else they know in a variety of fields;
consultancy;
research and training;
ill health/early retirement;
politics;
administrative roles within academies.
I am sure there are others that escape my mind currently. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:59 - Feb 1 with 1042 views | giant_stow |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:55 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The ones I know and can think of are:
private sector education;
starting own business in a variety of fields;
career break;
working for someone else they know in a variety of fields;
consultancy;
research and training;
ill health/early retirement;
politics;
administrative roles within academies.
I am sure there are others that escape my mind currently. |
Cheers for that - appreciated.
Just to say, I know a couple of teachers and they bust their balls* working all hours, so top to respect to the profession.
*They're both female so don't have balls, but you get me. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:59 - Feb 1 with 1040 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:19 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Good link SB and one I'll share on the parents group.
It's something that's continously been discussed as the letters parents are getting are pathetic and follow any duration a child is off school sick.
The headteacher is blind to it all and just continues to say they are following protocols etc. But it's beyond a joke and making some parents send in Ill children because if it. |
That's ridiculous. I'd be telling the school (politely) to get stuffed. We don't get anything like that (no letters at all after reported absences). |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:02 - Feb 1 with 1026 views | Herbivore |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:17 - Feb 1 by meekreech |
I would like to know what advice career teachers are giving to students .
It appears to me that they have to offer the following choices for careers.
First option is a job with more strikes so that very little work actually happens and the rest of economy is allowed to stagnate.
The second option is a job that does not spend time striking allowing more work to be performed and the economy to improve.
Services funded from the public purse should have the right to strike removed as in the long run it is not just inconvenient for the public but also potentially harmful in many ways. |
One of the most idiotic posts I've seen on TWTD, and I don't have Frimmers in ignore. |  |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:02 - Feb 1 with 1023 views | DJR |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:24 - Feb 1 by nodge_blue |
Im a bit on the fence with this.
My partner as a teacher assistant on a third of the teachers pay is now in today having to take the class instead of the absent teacher. |
If sufficient teaching assistants joined a union (the main teachers' union covers teaching assistants) they would probably have better pay, prospects and conditions too. |  | | |
| Including University and College Union colleagues today too on 13:02 - Feb 1 with 1023 views | Swansea_Blue |
18 days of strikes lined up between now and mid-March. That's going to hit pay packets pretty hard, so hopefully there's a resolution sooner rather than later. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:03 - Feb 1 with 1020 views | Guthrum |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:43 - Feb 1 by giant_stow |
This is a by the by question, not a taking side question: What sort of jobs do teachers leave to go and do? I gather they're in demand when they do choose to quit, but wondered in what sort of sectors... |
Most of the teachers I know are looking for anything other than remaining in state-school teaching!
Lots of transferrable skills - presentation, planning, working without constant supervision, etc. They're obviously all graduates, too. | |
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| Including University and College Union colleagues today too on 13:05 - Feb 1 with 1012 views | giant_stow |
| Including University and College Union colleagues today too on 13:02 - Feb 1 by Swansea_Blue |
18 days of strikes lined up between now and mid-March. That's going to hit pay packets pretty hard, so hopefully there's a resolution sooner rather than later. |
I don;t think the govt wants to resolve anything - they're clinging onto the culture war as their last hope at election time. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:07 - Feb 1 with 1005 views | BlueBadger |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 11:17 - Feb 1 by meekreech |
I would like to know what advice career teachers are giving to students .
It appears to me that they have to offer the following choices for careers.
First option is a job with more strikes so that very little work actually happens and the rest of economy is allowed to stagnate.
The second option is a job that does not spend time striking allowing more work to be performed and the economy to improve.
Services funded from the public purse should have the right to strike removed as in the long run it is not just inconvenient for the public but also potentially harmful in many ways. |
Ah. Here's today's 'yes bur Labour' KGB drone. Tell you what, if you don't want strikes in essential services, try valuing the people who work in them. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:09 - Feb 1 with 999 views | DJR |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:55 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The ones I know and can think of are:
private sector education;
starting own business in a variety of fields;
career break;
working for someone else they know in a variety of fields;
consultancy;
research and training;
ill health/early retirement;
politics;
administrative roles within academies.
I am sure there are others that escape my mind currently. |
Most of the teachers at my daughter's state primary school are now working in the many independent schools in the area, with smaller class sizes, willing pupils and much less stress. [Post edited 1 Feb 2023 13:09]
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:09 - Feb 1 with 1003 views | giant_stow |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:03 - Feb 1 by Guthrum |
Most of the teachers I know are looking for anything other than remaining in state-school teaching!
Lots of transferrable skills - presentation, planning, working without constant supervision, etc. They're obviously all graduates, too. |
One of the teachers I know wants nothing more than to be left to teach. She doesn't want to 'progress' into management jobs, or head of year or subject titles - just fair pay to reflect her now vast experience. I think this causes her trouble within the school though as she becomes evermore relatively expensive compared to newly qualified arrivals. Tricky situation for her and leaves her vulnerable to cost cutting, despite her being in a position to offer the best language teaching anyone could ever receive in a school. | |
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:11 - Feb 1 with 991 views | BlueNomad |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 10:48 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Yes thanks
2 days off school for my son in a week due to teachers being off
Yet you have an ill child and you get threatened with fines for them not attending. |
Absolute rubbish! You really have to go some to get a fine, and illness won’t be the reason.
But don’t let that spoil your narrative. |  | | |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:13 - Feb 1 with 983 views | Plums |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 12:24 - Feb 1 by nodge_blue |
Im a bit on the fence with this.
My partner as a teacher assistant on a third of the teachers pay is now in today having to take the class instead of the absent teacher. |
Sounds horribly familiar. My wife is a fully qualified teacher. She was working as an Education Officer for a water company when we met. She then went back into the primary classroom and I couldn't believe the overnight change in the happy go lucky person I'd met. It got to the point where I was doing some of her admin in the evenings just so that we could spend some time together. She became a teaching assistant (but was often used as underpaid supply cover) when we had kids and then left altogether just before covid.
She's brilliant with kids and still meets former pupils in the street who credit her with their grounding in maths in particular. Sadly after years of government meddling, being a great teacher is no longer enough. It's a compliance driven role in an institutionally bullying climate - exacerbated by academisation.
We were talking the other day (after our daughter's fabulous head teacher had resigned) that we know many times more former teachers and TAs than we do current ones.
It's not a job I would wish on my worst enemy - and yet it is the very foundation of our society.
Despite the disruption, I'm right behind them. [Post edited 1 Feb 2023 13:14]
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| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 13:14 - Feb 1 with 981 views | BlueBadger |
| Solidarity with my teaching and education chums (n/t) on 10:48 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Yes thanks
2 days off school for my son in a week due to teachers being off
Yet you have an ill child and you get threatened with fines for them not attending. |
Shouldn't you be looking after your kids then, rather than sharing your next 48 hot takes on here then? | |
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