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So the FBI sayâ€¦ 10:54 - Mar 1 with 10213 views

….covid 19 probably leaked from a Chinese government laboratory.
That’s interesting isn’t it. Many TWTD boyos got upset when Trump called it the Chinese virus.

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So the FBI say… on 14:34 - Mar 1 with 845 views

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So the FBI say… on 12:46 - Mar 1 by Horsham
I know it won’t be fashionable to agree with the poster but yes I think pretty much all kid’s education suffered through the pandemic and this combined with the fact these kids are the first generation of the social media age makes me certain that for many the effect on their mental health and future wellbeing will be dramatic. There are large numbers of kids who are not ok.

I think kids are way more resilient than we give them credit for.

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So the FBI say… on 14:36 - Mar 1 with 843 views

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So the FBI say… on 14:12 - Mar 1 by homer_123
You are right of course. Sod the elderly - we should have kept things open and killed them all off quicker.

Perhaps we could have protected them by isolating and not discharging hospital wards into care homes .... whilst not needing to be taking incredibly oppressive steps like locking down children etc?

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So the FBI say… on 14:38 - Mar 1 with 827 views

Herbivore

So the FBI say… on 14:36 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
Perhaps we could have protected them by isolating and not discharging hospital wards into care homes .... whilst not needing to be taking incredibly oppressive steps like locking down children etc?

Even with those "oppressive steps" there were tens of thousands of deaths from Covid in the UK, tens of millions worldwide. How bad do you think it would have been if we all just cracked on as normal?

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So the FBI say… on 14:40 - Mar 1 with 821 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 13:56 - Mar 1 by Swansea_Blue
People certainly made a lot of money from it. People in a position to do profiteer from every major disruptive event, such as wars, major political events, and yes even pandemics. It doesn't mean the triggering event didn't happen. But then I'm not sure whether you're being serious or this is just a wind up.

Why polarise the debate? I try to be serious and ridiculous at once.

All im saying is i didnt see it. With some exposure i still didn't. You all saw the goal and you agree with the referee, it was a goal. Im just here scratching my head and shrugging my shoulders; from here it looked like it never crossed the line.

Follow the Monet.

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So the FBI say… on 14:41 - Mar 1 with 813 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 14:38 - Mar 1 by Herbivore
Even with those "oppressive steps" there were tens of thousands of deaths from Covid in the UK, tens of millions worldwide. How bad do you think it would have been if we all just cracked on as normal?

You realise lockdowns reducing deaths have caused a mental health crisis in the young right? And the rest.

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So the FBI say… on 14:42 - Mar 1 with 808 views

StokieBlue

So the FBI say… on 14:40 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
Why polarise the debate? I try to be serious and ridiculous at once. All im saying is i didnt see it. With some exposure i still didn't. You all saw the goal and you agree with the referee, it was a goal. Im just here scratching my head and shrugging my shoulders; from here it looked like it never crossed the line. Follow the Monet.

Given you're pushing a conspiracy theory that covid was an engineered situation in order for wealthy people to make money, can you please explain how all the people died?

It's quite an offensive angle you're pushing as has already been pointed out by Phil.

SB

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So the FBI say… on 14:44 - Mar 1 with 795 views

giant_stow

So the FBI say… on 14:34 - Mar 1 by homer_123
I think kids are way more resilient than we give them credit for.

That's true, but it was a monumental and fearful time where all normal life was disrupted - I think most kids did cope, but it left scars. Not being an educational or child development expert, my opinion isn;t worth much, but I agree with Horsham: many kids have suffered. Just a little example: school attendance is for many, seen as almost optional now, from what I can see.

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So the FBI say… on 14:47 - Mar 1 with 793 views

BlueForYou

I lost two friends to Covid, plus an uncle. This thread is a disgrace & should be pulled, along with a couple of posters.

So the FBI say… on 14:50 - Mar 1 with 770 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 14:42 - Mar 1 by StokieBlue
Given you're pushing a conspiracy theory that covid was an engineered situation in order for wealthy people to make money, can you please explain how all the people died? It's quite an offensive angle you're pushing as has already been pointed out by Phil. SB

Im not pushing that, those are your words.

I think covid was created by China in wuhan and escaped,most likely accidentally. People certainly died from this novel respiratory virus.

Our leaders made decisions on how to manage what they'd decided was a"pandemic". This allowed them to make new rules. Looking back and considering these rules...it seems they've favoured the rule makers and not us, or our children. Massively.

My anecdotal evidence is certainly different to the mainstream medias position. Ho hum.

Wheres the conspiracy theory?

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So the FBI say… on 14:51 - Mar 1 with 757 views

Ryorry

So the FBI say… on 14:40 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
Why polarise the debate? I try to be serious and ridiculous at once. All im saying is i didnt see it. With some exposure i still didn't. You all saw the goal and you agree with the referee, it was a goal. Im just here scratching my head and shrugging my shoulders; from here it looked like it never crossed the line. Follow the Monet.

So you don’t have a TV or radio, follow other social media, read msm, believe the WHO or tens of thousands of doctors (including specialists like virologists and epidemiologists) reporting from all around the world then?

Curious.


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So the FBI say… on 14:56 - Mar 1 with 732 views

StokieBlue

So the FBI say… on 14:50 - Mar 1 by Buhrer

"Im not pushing that, those are your words."

Ending your posts with things like "Follow the Money" are fairly clear in their meaning.

"Our leaders made decisions on how to manage what they'd decided was a"pandemic". This allowed them to make new rules. Looking back and considering these rules...it seems they've favoured the rule makers and not us, or our children. Massively."

You keep putting pandemic in quotes, it was a pandemic, please stop doing it. The definition of a pandemic is very clearly outlined by the WHO and that was what determined it was a pandemic.

Looking at things in hindsight like you are doing totally ignores the context at the time and it's not really a fair way of evaluating anything.

"My anecdotal evidence is certainly different to the mainstream medias position. Ho hum."

It's not a mainstream media position, it's the reality of the situation. I suggest you go look at images from Italy at the start of the pandemic or from India when Delta emerged if you think this is all some kind of media narrative.

SB

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So the FBI say… on 14:56 - Mar 1 with 731 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 12:45 - Mar 1 by PhilTWTD
Dismissing the pandemic as a sniffle when plenty of people on here have lost friends and family - me included - is deeply offensive.

No offence is intended. Colds kill many people and i wasn't dismissing peoples deaths just the need to lock our whole world down. People are taking offence,but im not trying to offend, troll or be rude. I haven't called anyone names, unlike others. I mery replied to a thread honestly, with my opinion of my experience of covid. Not a popular one, I shall never speak of it again.

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So the FBI say… on 14:59 - Mar 1 with 721 views

SitfcB

So the FBI say… on 14:47 - Mar 1 by BlueForYou
I lost two friends to Covid, plus an uncle. This thread is a disgrace & should be pulled, along with a couple of posters.

Can’t pull a thread just because of differing opinions.

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So the FBI say… on 15:00 - Mar 1 with 708 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 14:51 - Mar 1 by Ryorry
So you don’t have a TV or radio, follow other social media, read msm, believe the WHO or tens of thousands of doctors (including specialists like virologists and epidemiologists) reporting from all around the world then? Curious.

Tbh the main result of covid ockdown for me was it broke the last traces of belief in our government, andedia, and I have stopped reading everything (previously grandiad and p eye). Listening to the government announcements on radio was like 1984.

Why would anyone trust the government and the companies that own it?

I know its all anecdotal,just lived experience was so different to what I'm told.

So the FBI say… on 15:05 - Mar 1 with 694 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 14:56 - Mar 1 by StokieBlue

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I thought the same way at the time. Im sorry I can't follow your reply properly from my phone to justify your effort challenging me, but thanks for trying. No one is changing znyones opinion, and people seem upset and easily angry. Peace x

So the FBI say… on 15:10 - Mar 1 with 684 views

StokieBlue

So the FBI say… on 15:05 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
I thought the same way at the time. Im sorry I can't follow your reply properly from my phone to justify your effort challenging me, but thanks for trying. No one is changing znyones opinion, and people seem upset and easily angry. Peace x

Calling a virus that killed millions "a sniffle" is likely to make people upset and angry.

Something to ponder for the future.

SB

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So the FBI say… on 15:17 - Mar 1 with 662 views

Ryorry

So the FBI say… on 15:00 - Mar 1 by Buhrer

But I was making the point that reporting of the pandemic *wasn’t* just by our government or msm - it was literally by millions of ordinary people and doctors, all over the world - hence pandemic being a literal description, if you look up the dictionary definition of the word.

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So the FBI say… on 15:21 - Mar 1 with 642 views

unbelievablue

So the FBI say… on 14:59 - Mar 1 by SitfcB
Can’t pull a thread just because of differing opinions.

Can and should if people are peddling dangerous, offensive or unsubstantiated nonsense.

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So the FBI say… on 15:23 - Mar 1 with 640 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 15:17 - Mar 1 by Ryorry
But I was making the point that reporting of the pandemic wasn’t just by our government or msm - it was literally by millions of ordinary people and doctors, all over the world - hence pandemic being a literal description, if you look up the dictionary definition of the word. [Post edited 1 Mar 2023 15:19]

Okay, I'll stop using "". Literally there was a pandemic.

See, this is progress. Im not going to make any more statements about that pandemic, as I'm not trolling you.

So the FBI say… on 15:26 - Mar 1 with 629 views

SuperKieranMcKenna

So the FBI say… on 15:23 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
Okay, I'll stop using "". Literally there was a pandemic. See, this is progress. Im not going to make any more statements about that pandemic, as I'm not trolling you.

I feel for you mate, you don’t really deserve this pile on.. it’s not your fault, it’s the chem-trails innit.

So the FBI say… on 15:35 - Mar 1 with 593 views

Herbivore

So the FBI say… on 14:41 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
You realise lockdowns reducing deaths have caused a mental health crisis in the young right? And the rest.

Swervetastic.

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So the FBI say… on 15:39 - Mar 1 with 575 views

PhilTWTD

So the FBI say… on 14:59 - Mar 1 by SitfcB
Can’t pull a thread just because of differing opinions.

Not really about opinions but promoting falsehoods and dismissing a sensitive issue which has led to plenty of posters losing family and friends. I've not removed the thread as those posts have been challenged and arguments countered.

So the FBI say… on 15:39 - Mar 1 with 565 views

Churchman

So the FBI say… on 13:03 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
I only know what I saw too. Not enough to agree with the hysteria. At the time or now.

Given what actually happened, I’d hardly describe it as hysteria.

Your argument belongs in the first few days/weeks of numbskull Johnson’s denial before even he had to recognise what was in front of him. That or Trump’s bleach remedy.

So the FBI say… on 15:43 - Mar 1 with 558 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 15:39 - Mar 1 by Churchman
Given what actually happened, I’d hardly describe it as hysteria. Your argument belongs in the first few days/weeks of numbskull Johnson’s denial before even he had to recognise what was in front of him. That or Trump’s bleach remedy.

Unsubstantiated personal anecdote you will ignore was here.

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So the FBI say… on 16:01 - Mar 1 with 531 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 15:39 - Mar 1 by PhilTWTD
Not really about opinions but promoting falsehoods and dismissing a sensitive issue which has led to plenty of posters losing family and friends. I've not removed the thread as those posts have been challenged and arguments countered.

I've reread my first post. I apologise to all for putting it so offensively. A lot of people died because of covid and i think the covid pandemic was a terrible tragedy. I wasn't seeking to offend people and any other points I was seeking to make are irrelevant to having done that.

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