| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) 15:28 - May 4 with 6630 views | Keno |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:17 - May 4 with 2204 views | HARRY10 |
Despite the forlorn howls of anguish from the Mail, I think the one thing that is coming out clearly is a widespread attitude of indifference. It is akin to the Ashes series. Those who are interested are fervent, while the rest of the country are not bothered (shame  )
People will catch up to see the highlights, but that's all
I noticed it with this years Chronic Relief. Nothing happening in the street, pubs or even merchandise in the supermarkets. It was only the day after that I was aware.
I expect, like the CofE, it will continue to slowly wither away. Re-assuring to some, but only really noticed on special occasions. |  | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:17 - May 4 with 2213 views | leitrimblue |
Best we can hope for is that a slightly spiced chicken based sandwich filler emerges from the entire mess |  | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:18 - May 4 with 2213 views | J2BLUE |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:08 - May 4 by DanTheMan |
You'll love this.
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All helps the cause in the end. Disgusting though. |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:22 - May 4 with 2178 views | Oldsmoker |
I'm so disinterested I haven't even bothered to make a comment on this thread. |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:22 - May 4 with 2180 views | bluelagos |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:14 - May 4 by Swansea_Blue |
Blimey. We’re not heading towards fascism, honest |
To be clear - we lost the right to protest years ago. We merely have the right to ask the police permission for a protest. They usually say yes, but they will also dictate where and when this is done.
Can you imagine the suffragettes going along with that? Or the civil rights marchers in America? Or those trying to subvert Apartheid in South Africa?
The idea that we tolerate protest in the UK is very much open to challenge - just see the reaction on here whenever XR or JSO opt for direct action rather than standing by the side of the road with banners... |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:23 - May 4 with 2170 views | DJR |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:08 - May 4 by DanTheMan |
You'll love this.
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I heard a former police officer on the radio with experience of policing such events.
He said that causing a disruption (eg. shouting words of protest) isn't actually a criminal offence, so the powers to deal with such actions appear to be completely lacking.
In effect, it could well be that the police end up dealing with protesters in a not dissimilar way to what goes on in authoritarian regimes, which is rightly condemned. [Post edited 4 May 2023 16:23]
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:27 - May 4 with 2138 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I think it’s lovely - no tourists would ever come to London if we didn’t have the Royals, just like nobody ever goes to Paris…
And jug ears has done a lot for his country such as…erm…wafting around in a helicopter telling us we’re destroying the planet in our small homes and little City cars. | | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 17:41 - May 4 with 2069 views | Pendejo |
My wife is organising and Coronation BBQ for the Latin American community which clashed with the, err, Coronation for which she's bought tons of bunting etc. And received massive donations of food.
I wanted to go to Blackpool |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 18:16 - May 4 with 2011 views | factual_blue |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:08 - May 4 by DJR |
Off with all your heads! |
How many heads do you think Keno has? |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 18:41 - May 4 with 1976 views | factual_blue |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 17:41 - May 4 by Pendejo |
My wife is organising and Coronation BBQ for the Latin American community which clashed with the, err, Coronation for which she's bought tons of bunting etc. And received massive donations of food.
I wanted to go to Blackpool |
Charles should wear a 'I'd rather be in Blackpool' tee shirt for the Coronation. | |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 20:22 - May 4 with 1912 views | Ryorry |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:08 - May 4 by J2BLUE |
No and another thing while i'm ranting, the royal commentators who will stand around saying what a great day it is for the nation and how the whole country is behind the new king, they can do one as well.
They are useful idiots brought out for propaganda purposes repeating the same tired lies. The whole thing is a complete whitewash of what the public really think. I realise many at least partially support them for some reason but I would love to see the actual split of national opinion.
The fact a 'slimmed down' coronation is costing £250m is ridiculous. That's roughly a £100,000 donation to every food bank in the country... |
The idea that the rest of the nation thinks just like everyone on this thread is laughable.
As far as the finances go, I’d be very very interested in a properly costed balance sheet. Heard a fascinating docu a few weeks ago on the making of the specialist uniforms and costumes, which is an entire economy of its own that keeps some communities going. Involves making heritage materials etc. Was on Radio 4 or maybe World Service.
Agree re protests, but this wretched government would have found some other way of bringing that in if not this. |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 21:20 - May 4 with 1832 views | HARRY10 |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:23 - May 4 by DJR |
I heard a former police officer on the radio with experience of policing such events.
He said that causing a disruption (eg. shouting words of protest) isn't actually a criminal offence, so the powers to deal with such actions appear to be completely lacking.
In effect, it could well be that the police end up dealing with protesters in a not dissimilar way to what goes on in authoritarian regimes, which is rightly condemned. [Post edited 4 May 2023 16:23]
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The problem there is so much is open to interpretation
What actually is 'disturbing the peace' ? Something that is very subjective, and down t a coppers judgement.
Which mean you can be arrested, removed from your place of protest, then released a few hours later. No charge, just detained long enough ti miss the last tube/train/bus home.
I shall head off to place my vote after thus. Safe in the knowledge that however many plod arrest, it will be a far lower number than the assorted bigots, racists and humbugs who will be voted out by Friday.
It will not be a fair society by then. But it will be a step towards making it a slightly less unfair one. And I shall heed the wise words of Gandi when asked about the 1937 Coronation
F**k 'em, f**k the whole lot of them (or words to that effect) | | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 21:24 - May 4 with 1826 views | J2BLUE |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 20:22 - May 4 by Ryorry |
The idea that the rest of the nation thinks just like everyone on this thread is laughable.
As far as the finances go, I’d be very very interested in a properly costed balance sheet. Heard a fascinating docu a few weeks ago on the making of the specialist uniforms and costumes, which is an entire economy of its own that keeps some communities going. Involves making heritage materials etc. Was on Radio 4 or maybe World Service.
Agree re protests, but this wretched government would have found some other way of bringing that in if not this. |
The idea that the rest of the nation thinks just like everyone on this thread is laughable.
Just to be clear are you suggesting I have said this? If so, read my post again. If not, my mistake. | |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 21:42 - May 4 with 1789 views | MattinLondon |
I’m sort of interested in the fact that a lot of the coronation ceremony has been the same for centuries. So I’m sort of fascinated by all of that but not enough to watch. I find the whole institution of monarchy ridiculous.
The Royal Family needs to be slimed down with all of their assets properly taxed and their finances should be properly reported and in the public domain. No grey areas, no offshore accounts and no clever tax exceptions. |  | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 22:03 - May 4 with 1751 views | HARRY10 |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 20:22 - May 4 by Ryorry |
The idea that the rest of the nation thinks just like everyone on this thread is laughable.
As far as the finances go, I’d be very very interested in a properly costed balance sheet. Heard a fascinating docu a few weeks ago on the making of the specialist uniforms and costumes, which is an entire economy of its own that keeps some communities going. Involves making heritage materials etc. Was on Radio 4 or maybe World Service.
Agree re protests, but this wretched government would have found some other way of bringing that in if not this. |
"on the making of the specialist uniforms and costumes, which is an entire economy of its own that keeps some communities going"
How utterly ridiculous. You could use that as an argument for keeping the gas chambers.
That money could and should have been there to manufacture protective quothing for medical staff during the Tory created PPE shortage. Maybe the money spent on security would be better spent on repairing the hundreds of thousand potholes - a result of Tory neglect.
Much as the rivers and seas where the amount of sewage pumped out is only equalled by the output of the Mail, Express and cap doffers such as yourself.
Get off your knees, and stop kow towing to people who you think are your betters | | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 22:20 - May 4 with 1747 views | Mercian |
I don't like the Oath of Allegience. I having nothing against The King but the full Oath (the unwritten parts) means to swear alligience to the monarch and their appointed ministers etc. Rushi will then be able to state that he has the alliegence of the British people at large which is clearly BS. |  | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 01:13 - May 5 with 1677 views | Ryorry |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 21:24 - May 4 by J2BLUE |
The idea that the rest of the nation thinks just like everyone on this thread is laughable.
Just to be clear are you suggesting I have said this? If so, read my post again. If not, my mistake. |
I did, because of your comments “the royal commentators who will stand around saying what a great day it is for the nation and how the whole country is behind the new king, they can do one as well.
They are useful idiots brought out for propaganda purposes repeating the same tired lies. The whole thing is a complete whitewash of what the public really think”.
But happy to accept your later comment that you didn’t of course. | |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 01:23 - May 5 with 1671 views | Ryorry |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 22:03 - May 4 by HARRY10 |
"on the making of the specialist uniforms and costumes, which is an entire economy of its own that keeps some communities going"
How utterly ridiculous. You could use that as an argument for keeping the gas chambers.
That money could and should have been there to manufacture protective quothing for medical staff during the Tory created PPE shortage. Maybe the money spent on security would be better spent on repairing the hundreds of thousand potholes - a result of Tory neglect.
Much as the rivers and seas where the amount of sewage pumped out is only equalled by the output of the Mail, Express and cap doffers such as yourself.
Get off your knees, and stop kow towing to people who you think are your betters |
I have never been on my knees or kowtowed to anybody, as you’d be aware if you bothered to remember any of my previous thousands of posts on here instead of instantly jumping to conclusions in order to conveniently exploit your own point of view.
Not like you to ignore a governmental total cockup and corruption in failing to recover the billions wasted on PPE etc. bungs. Maybe re-evaluate your priorities, because from the figures I’ve seen, the coronation spend is far less. [Post edited 5 May 2023 1:36]
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 01:42 - May 5 with 1657 views | HARRY10 |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 01:23 - May 5 by Ryorry |
I have never been on my knees or kowtowed to anybody, as you’d be aware if you bothered to remember any of my previous thousands of posts on here instead of instantly jumping to conclusions in order to conveniently exploit your own point of view.
Not like you to ignore a governmental total cockup and corruption in failing to recover the billions wasted on PPE etc. bungs. Maybe re-evaluate your priorities, because from the figures I’ve seen, the coronation spend is far less. [Post edited 5 May 2023 1:36]
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Really ?
Whenever I have read any of your cap doffing, grovelling old tosh it has been as with your uniform making twaddle (as above). Idiotic guff trying to defend what is indefensible, ie not paying medical staff at a level that keeps their wages on par with 2010, whilst spunking money up the wall on some Ruritanian comic opera.
There is no magic money tree the bigots bleat, as potholes go unfilled, and rivers do get flled, with the stuff that passes for comment on kGB views.
And for all your toadying "master knows best" snivelling, you and other forelock tuggers will still face the same problems with medical care as the rest of us. There will no knighthood, no 'nice little earner' or even a letter of thanks for those you regard as your betters when you snuff it.
A land fit for heroes they were told in 2019-, levelling up, HS2 to Leeds they were told in 2019
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 02:06 - May 5 with 1653 views | Ryorry |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 01:42 - May 5 by HARRY10 |
Really ?
Whenever I have read any of your cap doffing, grovelling old tosh it has been as with your uniform making twaddle (as above). Idiotic guff trying to defend what is indefensible, ie not paying medical staff at a level that keeps their wages on par with 2010, whilst spunking money up the wall on some Ruritanian comic opera.
There is no magic money tree the bigots bleat, as potholes go unfilled, and rivers do get flled, with the stuff that passes for comment on kGB views.
And for all your toadying "master knows best" snivelling, you and other forelock tuggers will still face the same problems with medical care as the rest of us. There will no knighthood, no 'nice little earner' or even a letter of thanks for those you regard as your betters when you snuff it.
A land fit for heroes they were told in 2019-, levelling up, HS2 to Leeds they were told in 2019
Some will never learn |
So instead of presenting a reasoned argument, you just lie, make up stuff about me, and are abusive to boot.
You’re all over the place. My mention of a docu on money-spinning heritage industries means, according to you, that I’m a “snivelling” apologist for the worst aspects of the monarchy, *and* for all the numerous calumnies of the #ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern, *and* that I’m apparently after some kind of enoblement for myself (which would be quite funny if it weren’t so ludicrous).
Come back to me without being completely intellectually dishonest and abusive, and I’ll reply to you again.
Fwiw for everyone else, I’ll repeat what I said in the last thread I was in on this topic - ie if there were a better system on offer which might not result in a President Johnson, I’d go for it. My preference would be for a 2-year tenure to be held in turn by various worthies of their local communities, as voted for by the general public. [Post edited 5 May 2023 2:59]
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 03:20 - May 5 with 1617 views | Zapers |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 01:42 - May 5 by HARRY10 |
Really ?
Whenever I have read any of your cap doffing, grovelling old tosh it has been as with your uniform making twaddle (as above). Idiotic guff trying to defend what is indefensible, ie not paying medical staff at a level that keeps their wages on par with 2010, whilst spunking money up the wall on some Ruritanian comic opera.
There is no magic money tree the bigots bleat, as potholes go unfilled, and rivers do get flled, with the stuff that passes for comment on kGB views.
And for all your toadying "master knows best" snivelling, you and other forelock tuggers will still face the same problems with medical care as the rest of us. There will no knighthood, no 'nice little earner' or even a letter of thanks for those you regard as your betters when you snuff it.
A land fit for heroes they were told in 2019-, levelling up, HS2 to Leeds they were told in 2019
Some will never learn |
You really are a nasty judgemental piece of work.
Why do you always have to insult good people, when all they have is views that do not coincide with your bitterness. | | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 07:47 - May 5 with 1537 views | TractorWood |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 02:06 - May 5 by Ryorry |
So instead of presenting a reasoned argument, you just lie, make up stuff about me, and are abusive to boot.
You’re all over the place. My mention of a docu on money-spinning heritage industries means, according to you, that I’m a “snivelling” apologist for the worst aspects of the monarchy, *and* for all the numerous calumnies of the #ToryCriminalsUnfitToGovern, *and* that I’m apparently after some kind of enoblement for myself (which would be quite funny if it weren’t so ludicrous).
Come back to me without being completely intellectually dishonest and abusive, and I’ll reply to you again.
Fwiw for everyone else, I’ll repeat what I said in the last thread I was in on this topic - ie if there were a better system on offer which might not result in a President Johnson, I’d go for it. My preference would be for a 2-year tenure to be held in turn by various worthies of their local communities, as voted for by the general public. [Post edited 5 May 2023 2:59]
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There is an obviously better system on offer. A republic.
The wider argument for keeping them for tourists and arcane industries and countless armed forces divisions who are literally just employed for occasional parades is ridiculous.
Harry Potter in Watford brings in loads of tourists, is doesn't mean we should make Ron Weasley head of state. |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 07:54 - May 5 with 1516 views | DJR |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 03:20 - May 5 by Zapers |
You really are a nasty judgemental piece of work.
Why do you always have to insult good people, when all they have is views that do not coincide with your bitterness. |
My view is that Ryorry is one of the more thoughtful and gentle posters on this board, and doesn't deserve any of stick that she seems to get. | | | |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 09:08 - May 5 with 1443 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 07:47 - May 5 by TractorWood |
There is an obviously better system on offer. A republic.
The wider argument for keeping them for tourists and arcane industries and countless armed forces divisions who are literally just employed for occasional parades is ridiculous.
Harry Potter in Watford brings in loads of tourists, is doesn't mean we should make Ron Weasley head of state. |
Only if you get the President you want. You would be just as anti if it was President May, or Johnson, or Truss, or Sunak. |  |
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| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) (n/t) on 09:36 - May 5 with 1422 views | Crawfordsboot |
| Anyone else feeling somewhat ambivalent about the coronation? (n/t) on 16:22 - May 4 by bluelagos |
To be clear - we lost the right to protest years ago. We merely have the right to ask the police permission for a protest. They usually say yes, but they will also dictate where and when this is done.
Can you imagine the suffragettes going along with that? Or the civil rights marchers in America? Or those trying to subvert Apartheid in South Africa?
The idea that we tolerate protest in the UK is very much open to challenge - just see the reaction on here whenever XR or JSO opt for direct action rather than standing by the side of the road with banners... |
In support of direct action you use the oft quoted suffragette protest but the logic is false. Historic direct action might well have been taken in support of a cause that today is seen as just and reasonable. That however does not justify all direct action.
Slave owners and southern white supremacists took direct action in support of their cause but few would argue in support of their right to do so. Anti abortion campaigners take direct action threatening the lives of doctors heading up clinics. Again society in general finds this unacceptable.
Ultimately direct action amounts to forcing a particular view onto society. We need to be very careful about a general and relaxed acceptance of direct action. [Post edited 5 May 2023 9:49]
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