| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? 21:59 - Aug 23 with 7136 views | FrimleyBlue |
Forgetting the football and setting sides up etc
One of the biggest parts is the management of squad moral and the atmosphere they talk of.
Ashton and KM have both said they are very picky on who they bring in. So it's quite surprising to read up on the Williams link at some of this off field antics..
Random social media rants
Inhaling gas etc..
Purely based on YouTube vids he looks a really handy player.. but It's imo a big big test for KM on maintaining that certain atmosphere amongst the squad. |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:16 - Aug 24 with 1087 views | Churchman |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 23:31 - Aug 23 by MattinLondon |
Why will it be a test? KM tells a player that he and his coaching staff will make him a better player if he commits to the club and is willing to learn.
From that conversation the team here will be able to form a good idea whether said player really wants to be here. If not, bye and thanks for your time. If yes, welcome to the club and let’s aim for promotion. |
I think the point is that most young blokes’ yoof doesn’t bear too much scrutiny. Mine certainly doesn’t (shudder). But most of us learn as we get older.
McKenna and Ashton have made it clear that character and commitment are as important as ability. It’s clear what the owners want when it comes to this too.
When you watch McKenna in interviews, on the sidelines, pre match with the players I’ve no doubt it’s ‘my way or the highway’ with him, however level headed and calm he is.
So player wise there is no test here for McKenna. Not now. |  | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:24 - Aug 24 with 1054 views | BondiBlue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:16 - Aug 24 by Churchman |
I think the point is that most young blokes’ yoof doesn’t bear too much scrutiny. Mine certainly doesn’t (shudder). But most of us learn as we get older.
McKenna and Ashton have made it clear that character and commitment are as important as ability. It’s clear what the owners want when it comes to this too.
When you watch McKenna in interviews, on the sidelines, pre match with the players I’ve no doubt it’s ‘my way or the highway’ with him, however level headed and calm he is.
So player wise there is no test here for McKenna. Not now. |
I guess a test would be if there was lots of pressure on mckenna to get results, and to do that he had to keep his best player happy, who happened to be a c0ck. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 8:27]
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:32 - Aug 24 with 1037 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:01 - Aug 24 by StokieBlue |
I wasn't responding to you, I was pointing out to Cheltenham that you had previously been banned for being rude and offensive as he seemed unaware. He's made a valid and accurate point though.
If you want me to comment on the alleged "football content" then I can:
It's once again relentless negative.
If you want to discuss being singled out then perhaps you could explain why you absolutely laid into me for calling you "relentlessly negative" the other day yet Dyland posted the exact same words later and went quite a bit further than I did yet you completely ignored it.
People in glass houses and all that.
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I was on holiday SB and despite responding to the majority I wasn't able to respond to everyone. Apologies.
And regarding the OP it isn't a negative. As I explained further In the thread. When KM gets higher up the levels he's going to come across excellent players who don't follow a certain personality trait you would tend to like, being able to manage it well is key and it is the first one that comes to my mind that he's going to be dealing with. It's a great test for him.
Have a good day SB. I'll be on later. | |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:33 - Aug 24 with 1033 views | Churchman |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 08:24 - Aug 24 by BondiBlue |
I guess a test would be if there was lots of pressure on mckenna to get results, and to do that he had to keep his best player happy, who happened to be a c0ck. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 8:27]
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I get the impression of conformity and belief in what we are doing from the players, however sceptical they might have been when KM arrived. One of their strengths is the lack of prima donnas. Even if he was the best player, if he’s that much of a tool I doubt we’d be bringing him in.
If we progress and eventually get to the PL one day, that’ll be the test. However it shouldn’t be forgotten where McKenna and his coaching team have worked. | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:06 - Aug 24 with 965 views | CityBlue |
The lad has a huge social media footprint and as a result will attract all kinds of "managerial challenges".
He will do fin under the watchful eyes of the town backroom staff. (who on the whole know him fairly well). |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:09 - Aug 24 with 965 views | Horsham |
One reason we may not hear a great deal of supposed naughty behaviour from our squad may be that McKenna and the team manage the players very well. Maybe a reason Williams would like to work with McKenna.
Of course I’m speculating.
It seems likely that McKenna being an intelligent man would not sanction the recruitment of any player he doubts he could work with and his judgement has been excellent so far.
I don’t think we have a particularly good reason to overthink this theory at this stage. |  | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:16 - Aug 24 with 948 views | BlueBadger |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:09 - Aug 24 by Horsham |
One reason we may not hear a great deal of supposed naughty behaviour from our squad may be that McKenna and the team manage the players very well. Maybe a reason Williams would like to work with McKenna.
Of course I’m speculating.
It seems likely that McKenna being an intelligent man would not sanction the recruitment of any player he doubts he could work with and his judgement has been excellent so far.
I don’t think we have a particularly good reason to overthink this theory at this stage. |
I can't believe that you're suggesting that Frimmers might desperately over analyse something of the sake of a hot take. |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:16 - Aug 24 with 944 views | hoppy |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 22:49 - Aug 23 by Cheltenham_Blue |
It’s very clear that we’ve missed out on players.
At least one. |
It was never proven that we were trying to entice Jay Tabb out of his football retirement - it was just social media rumours. |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:22 - Aug 24 with 932 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:16 - Aug 24 by BlueBadger |
I can't believe that you're suggesting that Frimmers might desperately over analyse something of the sake of a hot take. |
Almost like people over analyse an OP.
Fk me. What the fk is allowed to be discussed on this football tab. | |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:25 - Aug 24 with 916 views | blueislander |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:16 - Aug 24 by hoppy |
It was never proven that we were trying to entice Jay Tabb out of his football retirement - it was just social media rumours. |
And Batistuta didn’t want to come out of retirement. | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:25 - Aug 24 with 914 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:16 - Aug 24 by hoppy |
It was never proven that we were trying to entice Jay Tabb out of his football retirement - it was just social media rumours. |
That horse bolted a long time ago (with our Tabby hanging on for dear life) |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:35 - Aug 24 with 898 views | Hipsterectomy |
The first hurdle of the no dckheads policy |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:41 - Aug 24 with 884 views | Simonds92 |
"First big managerial test" is a bit dismissive of everything he has achieved here so far, its definitely not that. I dont really see an issue with a young lad doing balloons and hating Norwich fans. Plenty of professionals (and by this I mean everyday people not footballers) have done balloons when drinking and maintained a professional attitude in everything else they do. The biggest test is where to play him and who drops out and how McKenna deals with the guy who makes way. I am of the opinion it will be for cover on the left but predominantly he will play on the right. We dont know the extent od JDs injury and everything I've read about Clarke suggests he needs an extended period out of the team to recover. | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:44 - Aug 24 with 877 views | gosblue |
Sam Morsy must be a better role model than Harry McGuire was. | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:50 - Aug 24 with 868 views | Nutkins_Return |
Eh? The short answer is clearly no.
I doubt he will even be an issue personality wise given mcKenna knows him you're having a bit of a guess about him based on very little. Ladapo was supposedly someone with baggage and falling out with clubs/managers....
Personally I imagine managing someone like Woolf would be more of a challenge. Managers have struggled with him previously (and Woolf himself has alluded to it). He's so layed back and needs someone who gets him and I dare say can get the balance right (make him focus/kick up backside etc). McKenna has been brilliant for him.
Just how McKenna has kept a large squad motivated and all so tight has been fantastic.
I dare say getting him to sign over Leeds is the biggest part of the challenge with Williams. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 9:51]
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:54 - Aug 24 with 855 views | Hipsterectomy |
United fans definitely question his desire and ambition. Maybe a different home will be good for him, but if you're really highly thought of yet still can't motivate yourself for one of the world's biggest teams I dunno where you go from there | |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:07 - Aug 24 with 830 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:22 - Aug 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Almost like people over analyse an OP.
Fk me. What the fk is allowed to be discussed on this football tab. |
I don't see any analysis of any kind going on in your OP.
You've already gone down the road of, "This guy his going to be trouble for KMc" in exactly the same way as you pegged McKenna as Smarmy on the strength of the first 5 minutes of an interview.
Few social media rants - Flicking the bird and showing nodge fans pictures of his dogs after they followed him to his HOME following the last game of the season, and calling out Rio Ferdinand for celebrating after Man City won the treble.
But yeah, McKenna's 'first real test', because he hasn't worked with the kid for years, so doesn't know his personality or if he'll fit in at all. |  |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:08 - Aug 24 with 823 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 22:07 - Aug 23 by FrimleyBlue |
Quiet Suffolk life might make a big difference too. |
Ipswich has as many smackheads as anywhere else though! It's hardly remote countryside, much of it is pretty rough. |  | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:12 - Aug 24 with 798 views | MattinLondon |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:08 - Aug 24 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Ipswich has as many smackheads as anywhere else though! It's hardly remote countryside, much of it is pretty rough. |
Saying that most of Ipswich is rough is quite ott. In fact I’d say that most of Ipswich is either nice or pretty average. |  | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:17 - Aug 24 with 774 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:08 - Aug 24 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Ipswich has as many smackheads as anywhere else though! It's hardly remote countryside, much of it is pretty rough. |
Suffolk doesn't have just ipswich in it. | |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:18 - Aug 24 with 768 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:12 - Aug 24 by MattinLondon |
Saying that most of Ipswich is rough is quite ott. In fact I’d say that most of Ipswich is either nice or pretty average. |
Chunks of Ipswich are very rough and deprived through no fault of its own, crime is pretty bad, drug use is pretty rife in the Town and it's pretty dangerous in places at night. This is no exaggeration, people have been killed. | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:20 - Aug 24 with 766 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 09:54 - Aug 24 by Hipsterectomy |
United fans definitely question his desire and ambition. Maybe a different home will be good for him, but if you're really highly thought of yet still can't motivate yourself for one of the world's biggest teams I dunno where you go from there |
A lot of United fans thought McKenna was rubbish so excuse me if I don't listen to them! | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:23 - Aug 24 with 751 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:07 - Aug 24 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I don't see any analysis of any kind going on in your OP.
You've already gone down the road of, "This guy his going to be trouble for KMc" in exactly the same way as you pegged McKenna as Smarmy on the strength of the first 5 minutes of an interview.
Few social media rants - Flicking the bird and showing nodge fans pictures of his dogs after they followed him to his HOME following the last game of the season, and calling out Rio Ferdinand for celebrating after Man City won the treble.
But yeah, McKenna's 'first real test', because he hasn't worked with the kid for years, so doesn't know his personality or if he'll fit in at all. |
No. I didn't say he was going to be. It was more that as a signing under KM he's come with more known off field antics ( minor compared to many others however) than the other signings under KM and as we get in higher quality players, quite a few come with it. So it will be a test of any manager to either manage to stop it or manage it without it having any effects on the rest of the squad.
There's quire a few bits out there about him. But that's upto.you if you wish to view them or not or even give a sht. That's upto you. | |
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| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:24 - Aug 24 with 747 views | MattinLondon |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:17 - Aug 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Suffolk doesn't have just ipswich in it. |
No point living in Suffolk and not living in Ipswich. The rest of Suffolk is just dominated by farmyard animals and inbreeding. | | | |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:26 - Aug 24 with 734 views | MattinLondon |
| Williams... First big managerial test for KM? on 10:18 - Aug 24 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Chunks of Ipswich are very rough and deprived through no fault of its own, crime is pretty bad, drug use is pretty rife in the Town and it's pretty dangerous in places at night. This is no exaggeration, people have been killed. |
Compared to similar size towns and cities it’s not particularly rough at all. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 10:35]
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