| Summer is officially over... 10:38 - Sep 6 with 3730 views | BlueBadger |
...the 'home you go' season has started.
Don't get me wrong, there are some ridiculous(and frequently punitively expensive) rules that schools put in place for uniforms(can't see what's wrong with either of these shoes other than the VW ones are f**king hideous) but 100 quid on school shoes?
Come on now.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/parents-fury-gateshead-scho |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 10:43 - Sep 6 with 3668 views | GeoffSentence |
I don't understand the father who on one hand complains that we are in a cost of living crisis and on the other hand complains that the daughter is not allowed to wear shoes that cost £100. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 10:57 - Sep 6 with 3626 views | itfc_bucks |
I have zero sympathy for parents who bleat about this.
The rules are there in black and white. If you don't follow them and get called on it, that's too bad.
If you don't like the rules, don't send your sproglet there.
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| Summer is officially over... on 11:00 - Sep 6 with 3602 views | Fixed_It |
| Summer is officially over... on 10:57 - Sep 6 by itfc_bucks |
I have zero sympathy for parents who bleat about this.
The rules are there in black and white. If you don't follow them and get called on it, that's too bad.
If you don't like the rules, don't send your sproglet there.
It really is that simple. |
And all it does is highlight poor/weak parenting, where the child gets what they want all the time and the parents haven't the backbone to tell them that rules are rules. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 11:11 - Sep 6 with 3544 views | giant_stow |
Forgetting the idiots buying designer gear for their kids, there does seem to be fair questions around the cost of school uniforms in general - big old outlay for a second set of clothes. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 11:16 - Sep 6 with 3530 views | GeoffSentence |
| Summer is officially over... on 10:57 - Sep 6 by itfc_bucks |
I have zero sympathy for parents who bleat about this.
The rules are there in black and white. If you don't follow them and get called on it, that's too bad.
If you don't like the rules, don't send your sproglet there.
It really is that simple. |
I'd have some sympathy if the parents were complaining that the school was making them pay over the odds for shoes. Not the case here though. | |
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| Summer is officially over... on 11:19 - Sep 6 with 3508 views | Guthrum |
The whole point of a school uniform is ... uniformity. Everyone wearing the same clothes, no difference in status, class or wealth. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 11:22 - Sep 6 with 3496 views | StokieBlue |
Quite interesting (or not) to see where school uniforms aren't used.
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| Summer is officially over... on 12:12 - Sep 6 with 3372 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Summer is officially over... on 11:22 - Sep 6 by StokieBlue |
Quite interesting (or not) to see where school uniforms aren't used.
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Go Finland! |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 12:42 - Sep 6 with 3285 views | giant_stow |
| Summer is officially over... on 11:22 - Sep 6 by StokieBlue |
Quite interesting (or not) to see where school uniforms aren't used.
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Very interesting. | |
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| Summer is officially over... on 13:15 - Sep 6 with 3231 views | HARRY10 |
school uniforms are often a two edged sword.
They do serve the purpose of ensuring a level of conformity (good or bad) and they do stop kids being pressiutred into having the latest fashion, which can be way beyond the budget of some (many) families.
However they can be used by schools to exclude kids by requiring not only expensive uniform but other expensive items.
My cousin who lives over the border (there be dragons) told me that one or two village Primary Schools have become exclusive due to the cost of a child attending, extra curriculae activities, visits to London etc
And with very few original village families both schools are almost private schools. The kids in some 1930's type uniform, like it was some costume drama.
Otherwise there are usually tales of parents acting like absolute Dicks.
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| Summer is officially over... on 13:31 - Sep 6 with 3177 views | MattinLondon |
| Summer is officially over... on 11:11 - Sep 6 by giant_stow |
Forgetting the idiots buying designer gear for their kids, there does seem to be fair questions around the cost of school uniforms in general - big old outlay for a second set of clothes. |
Luckily where we live the school uniform for my boys is a generic white polo shirt and generic grey trousers. All fairly inexpensive from the local Tescos or Sainsburys. I don’t have a problem with school uniform as it gets covered in school dinners and other unidentifiable stuff.
I do have a problem with sixth forms telling it’s students that they must wear suits - what’s the point? And high schools telling its pupils that they must ask for permission to take off their jumpers.
Off-topic, I do think that schools are too formal. Don’t see no reason why teachers can’t be called by their first names. How many employees call their bosses ‘sir’ or ‘Mrs’. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 14:11]
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| Summer is officially over... on 13:58 - Sep 6 with 3118 views | giant_stow |
| Summer is officially over... on 13:31 - Sep 6 by MattinLondon |
Luckily where we live the school uniform for my boys is a generic white polo shirt and generic grey trousers. All fairly inexpensive from the local Tescos or Sainsburys. I don’t have a problem with school uniform as it gets covered in school dinners and other unidentifiable stuff.
I do have a problem with sixth forms telling it’s students that they must wear suits - what’s the point? And high schools telling its pupils that they must ask for permission to take off their jumpers.
Off-topic, I do think that schools are too formal. Don’t see no reason why teachers can’t be called by their first names. How many employees call their bosses ‘sir’ or ‘Mrs’. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 14:11]
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Agreed - as long as its generic, cheap and informal (no expensive blazer + badge), I can just about live with uniforms. Jackets and ties are well on their way out of the workplace bar a few sectors in any case, so why make kids dress to an old standard? | |
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| Summer is officially over... on 14:13 - Sep 6 with 3052 views | MattinLondon |
| Summer is officially over... on 13:58 - Sep 6 by giant_stow |
Agreed - as long as its generic, cheap and informal (no expensive blazer + badge), I can just about live with uniforms. Jackets and ties are well on their way out of the workplace bar a few sectors in any case, so why make kids dress to an old standard? |
Maybe because suits etc look better on their website. It’s all quite old fashioned. | | | |
| Summer is officially over... on 14:19 - Sep 6 with 3039 views | acj |
| Summer is officially over... on 13:31 - Sep 6 by MattinLondon |
Luckily where we live the school uniform for my boys is a generic white polo shirt and generic grey trousers. All fairly inexpensive from the local Tescos or Sainsburys. I don’t have a problem with school uniform as it gets covered in school dinners and other unidentifiable stuff.
I do have a problem with sixth forms telling it’s students that they must wear suits - what’s the point? And high schools telling its pupils that they must ask for permission to take off their jumpers.
Off-topic, I do think that schools are too formal. Don’t see no reason why teachers can’t be called by their first names. How many employees call their bosses ‘sir’ or ‘Mrs’. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 14:11]
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I work at a high school in Chile, and here it’s commonplace for the kids to refer to teachers by our first names. In the younger age groups (infants/junior school) they normally call teachers ‘miss’ or ‘mr’, but the older ones either call us by name or ‘profe’ - the short form of the Spanish word for ‘teacher’. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 16:06 - Sep 6 with 2933 views | TractorBrew |
| Summer is officially over... on 13:58 - Sep 6 by giant_stow |
Agreed - as long as its generic, cheap and informal (no expensive blazer + badge), I can just about live with uniforms. Jackets and ties are well on their way out of the workplace bar a few sectors in any case, so why make kids dress to an old standard? |
Our PTA has done a great job of encouraging re-use of school uninform. Polo shirts for £1 etc, most of the stuff is like new. With how variable our weather can be, you could buy summer dresses and use them about 5 times etc.
Spending silly amounts on stuff kids to wear at school is madness. But maybe this is driven by not being allowed a pair of kickers in my youth... | | | |
| Summer is officially over... on 16:37 - Sep 6 with 2875 views | Basuco |
| Summer is officially over... on 13:15 - Sep 6 by HARRY10 |
school uniforms are often a two edged sword.
They do serve the purpose of ensuring a level of conformity (good or bad) and they do stop kids being pressiutred into having the latest fashion, which can be way beyond the budget of some (many) families.
However they can be used by schools to exclude kids by requiring not only expensive uniform but other expensive items.
My cousin who lives over the border (there be dragons) told me that one or two village Primary Schools have become exclusive due to the cost of a child attending, extra curriculae activities, visits to London etc
And with very few original village families both schools are almost private schools. The kids in some 1930's type uniform, like it was some costume drama.
Otherwise there are usually tales of parents acting like absolute Dicks.
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School uniform cost's have risen this term due to added items like hard hat and high viz jacket in case of buildings collapsing.  |  | | |
| Summer is officially over... on 17:12 - Sep 6 with 2766 views | jontysnut |
| Summer is officially over... on 14:13 - Sep 6 by MattinLondon |
Maybe because suits etc look better on their website. It’s all quite old fashioned. |
I remember my mum and dad's excitement at me passing the 11 plus being replaced with dread at the huge shopping list of gear I needed on the first day. Hockey boots? |  | | |
| Summer is officially over... on 17:12 - Sep 6 with 2765 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Summer is officially over... on 10:57 - Sep 6 by itfc_bucks |
I have zero sympathy for parents who bleat about this.
The rules are there in black and white. If you don't follow them and get called on it, that's too bad.
If you don't like the rules, don't send your sproglet there.
It really is that simple. |
Whilst I agree with everything you say, this one is way wide of the mark, "If you don't like the rules, don't send your sproglet there."
Don't be fooled into the Tory, parent choice BS, all of those open evenings, and top three choice forms, a complete and total waste of time.
Your sproglet will be going to their geographically nearest school with space, even if its a sh1t one, irrespective of what you 'chose'. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 17:19 - Sep 6 with 2745 views | BlueBadger |
| Summer is officially over... on 17:12 - Sep 6 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Whilst I agree with everything you say, this one is way wide of the mark, "If you don't like the rules, don't send your sproglet there."
Don't be fooled into the Tory, parent choice BS, all of those open evenings, and top three choice forms, a complete and total waste of time.
Your sproglet will be going to their geographically nearest school with space, even if its a sh1t one, irrespective of what you 'chose'. |
And if by some chance, you're a bit common and the local school has an excellent rep, they will almost certainly have a very expensive uniform that you can only buy from 'approved' sellers. | |
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| Summer is officially over... on 17:29 - Sep 6 with 2734 views | Mullet |
I've always felt "business attire" is wrong in my opinion. It's expensive because schools sign ridiculous deals with clothing providers (not always) and it's hard to keep clean or maintain.
Having to tell kids their shirt needs tucking in, their skirt is too short etc just causes conflict. If they made it very simple, branded sweatshirt, polo shirt and trousers and black shoes it'd cut costs considerably, still do its job and allow greater buy in.
I've spent far too much of my career on enforcing rules that make little difference.
As for parents who buy their kids designer clobber and let them take it to school/kick off because they can't wear plimsols with giant buckles on or whatever, it baffles me every time. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 21:55 - Sep 6 with 2581 views | ronnyd |
That mystery pong is the smell of Saudi money. | | | |
| Summer is officially over... on 22:06 - Sep 6 with 2523 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Quite right, God forbid we should encourage children to have personality or express themselves. |  |
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| Summer is officially over... on 22:14 - Sep 6 with 2500 views | eireblue |
| Summer is officially over... on 22:06 - Sep 6 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Quite right, God forbid we should encourage children to have personality or express themselves. |
Yea, it’s quite strange that in “the world of work” diversity and creative thinking is something that is seen as highly desirable. |  | | |
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