| Taylor the only negative from last night 11:04 - Sep 20 with 7366 views | hunty21 |
Hopefully it was just nerves but he needs to keep the ball better not expecting fireworks but luongo is on another level to hom |  | | |  |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:06 - Sep 20 with 2643 views | Illinoisblue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 12:53 - Sep 20 by RedX |
I get the impression he’s a guy who’s going to get very frustrated if not starting. |
Isn’t that true of nearly every player? I’m sure Evans is not enjoying life on the bench either. |  |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:12 - Sep 20 with 2618 views | RedX |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:06 - Sep 20 by Illinoisblue |
Isn’t that true of nearly every player? I’m sure Evans is not enjoying life on the bench either. |
Maybe switch “frustrated” with “unhappy”.
Just the impression I get. |  | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:34 - Sep 20 with 2586 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 12:47 - Sep 20 by the_toff |
He joined Chelsea's academy at 7 years old.
I'm pretty sure he's been taught how to trap a football. |
Well of course, I didn't mean trap a ball period. Just meant the Morsy turn, receiving the ball from the defence with players baring down on you, he traps it, turns and gets play going.
Taylors been more of a face to goal midfielder or being on the half turn to get play going further forward. IMO of course. |  |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:39 - Sep 20 with 2584 views | SheffordBlue |
When I see posts that talk negatively about players I try and think about how McKenna and his coaching staff with their growth mindset would be talking to the player. I think it would be something along the lines of - "Going up some top quality players it was great to see you do X, Y and Z well. To be even better and nail down a starting spot we're going to work with you really hard on A, B and C."
That's not avoiding the issue or being snowflakey it just reframes things in forward looking approach. There are regularly posts on here that I think would benefit from talking about things in this way rather than saying Player X was really poor! | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:41 - Sep 20 with 2571 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:39 - Sep 20 by SheffordBlue |
When I see posts that talk negatively about players I try and think about how McKenna and his coaching staff with their growth mindset would be talking to the player. I think it would be something along the lines of - "Going up some top quality players it was great to see you do X, Y and Z well. To be even better and nail down a starting spot we're going to work with you really hard on A, B and C."
That's not avoiding the issue or being snowflakey it just reframes things in forward looking approach. There are regularly posts on here that I think would benefit from talking about things in this way rather than saying Player X was really poor! |
lol, will make zero difference. As soon as you mention something they could improve on, it's seen as negative and searching for it. | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:44 - Sep 20 with 2574 views | SheffordBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:41 - Sep 20 by FrimleyBlue |
lol, will make zero difference. As soon as you mention something they could improve on, it's seen as negative and searching for it. |
I think the language that's used and how things are framed makes a difference. I often find that you raise interesting points but your framing of things leads to bad reactions - just a bit of hyperbole around some of your language that means the good points get lost. | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:50 - Sep 20 with 2557 views | Churchman |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:06 - Sep 20 by Illinoisblue |
Isn’t that true of nearly every player? I’m sure Evans is not enjoying life on the bench either. |
I would hope that any player not starting is frustrated about it. The last thing we need is players happy to pick up their dough shining their rear end on the bench.
I’ve seen enough of Taylor to believe we’ve signed a really good player. He just needs time, patience and game time. He’ll have better games than last night and will be fine. My guess is he’ll be a key part of our midfield by the season’s end. |  | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:52 - Sep 20 with 2550 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:44 - Sep 20 by SheffordBlue |
I think the language that's used and how things are framed makes a difference. I often find that you raise interesting points but your framing of things leads to bad reactions - just a bit of hyperbole around some of your language that means the good points get lost. |
Frimmers shoots from the hip and he takes no prisoners! |  |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 14:06 - Sep 20 with 2528 views | monty_radio |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 12:55 - Sep 20 by pointofblue |
Seeing him play, I wonder whether he could benefit more from backing up Chaplin and playing slightly further forward. Have a more defensive central midfield behind him and be able to push forward more. |
Scored 1 in every 7 across 3 years at Peterborough which suggests he was not primarily a sitter. [Post edited 20 Sep 2023 16:52]
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 15:42 - Sep 20 with 2490 views | jacobnikons |
Agree. Why is he ahead of Humphries? I honestly dent see him as any more than a squad player while Humphries is very talented as he showed for large parts of last season. Like Edwards, I think he is a far better player than Jackson. I guess Edwards wants starts while Jackson is happy to play backup.. |  | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 15:45 - Sep 20 with 2484 views | blueasfook |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:39 - Sep 20 by SheffordBlue |
When I see posts that talk negatively about players I try and think about how McKenna and his coaching staff with their growth mindset would be talking to the player. I think it would be something along the lines of - "Going up some top quality players it was great to see you do X, Y and Z well. To be even better and nail down a starting spot we're going to work with you really hard on A, B and C."
That's not avoiding the issue or being snowflakey it just reframes things in forward looking approach. There are regularly posts on here that I think would benefit from talking about things in this way rather than saying Player X was really poor! |
I would just say "Look, you're crap at A,B and C and unless you buck up, then you're going to be playing for Col Utd next season"
I am available for motivational speaking events. |  |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 17:17 - Sep 20 with 2424 views | Leaky |
A bit harsh,he made his first league start against a team who were in the the Prem last season, Give these new players time to bed in. |  | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 18:21 - Sep 20 with 2391 views | hunty21 |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 13:39 - Sep 20 by SheffordBlue |
When I see posts that talk negatively about players I try and think about how McKenna and his coaching staff with their growth mindset would be talking to the player. I think it would be something along the lines of - "Going up some top quality players it was great to see you do X, Y and Z well. To be even better and nail down a starting spot we're going to work with you really hard on A, B and C."
That's not avoiding the issue or being snowflakey it just reframes things in forward looking approach. There are regularly posts on here that I think would benefit from talking about things in this way rather than saying Player X was really poor! |
Would also benefit from people actually reading the post not once did i say he was poor but he was our weakest player , i guess you want me to put a post saying we are gonna win the league or something positive that is speculitive and not even honest | | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 18:43 - Sep 20 with 2362 views | ReusersTown |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 12:07 - Sep 20 by JackNorthStand |
I think you are confusing people giving a point of view of areas for improvement with people “ being negative “ for the sake of it. |
The op did quite literally call Taylor a negative, which is absurd! | | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 18:43 - Sep 20 with 2362 views | Mullet |
Think he just misfired is all. Was probably the hardest game to come into and make a mark. He looked like he was overthinking and overwhelmed too often and it showed itself. It wasn't a great debut, but there was enough to suggest he can and will adjust fairly quickly.
He's been the main man at a tiny club who are streaky as piss. This is a huge step up for him. |  |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 18:52 - Sep 20 with 2347 views | SheffordBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 18:21 - Sep 20 by hunty21 |
Would also benefit from people actually reading the post not once did i say he was poor but he was our weakest player , i guess you want me to put a post saying we are gonna win the league or something positive that is speculitive and not even honest |
My post was more a general observation on the thread that your post started than your post specifically, | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 19:02 - Sep 20 with 2334 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 18:43 - Sep 20 by ReusersTown |
The op did quite literally call Taylor a negative, which is absurd! |
Why is it absurd?
If he didn't have a positive performance then the opposite to that is a negative one is it not? | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 19:05 - Sep 20 with 2332 views | SheffordBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 19:02 - Sep 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Why is it absurd?
If he didn't have a positive performance then the opposite to that is a negative one is it not? |
I don't think his performance last night was a binary positive/negative one. He did some things really well e.g the high turnover that led to Chappers hitting the crossbar or some of his progressive passing.
He's got other things to work on e.g retaining possession under pressure.
I think it was the importance of the latter and the games state which led to him being subbed off when he was. | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 19:39 - Sep 20 with 2301 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 19:05 - Sep 20 by SheffordBlue |
I don't think his performance last night was a binary positive/negative one. He did some things really well e.g the high turnover that led to Chappers hitting the crossbar or some of his progressive passing.
He's got other things to work on e.g retaining possession under pressure.
I think it was the importance of the latter and the games state which led to him being subbed off when he was. |
Absolutely agree.
My point tho was just the OP use of negative. It's not dramatic, it's not absurd. He's just talking about an aspect they felt wasnt positive, therefore it's a negative.
Imo to many people get triggered by a non positive comment. It's unhealthy. | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 20:16 - Sep 20 with 2289 views | HankScorpio |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 19:39 - Sep 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Absolutely agree.
My point tho was just the OP use of negative. It's not dramatic, it's not absurd. He's just talking about an aspect they felt wasnt positive, therefore it's a negative.
Imo to many people get triggered by a non positive comment. It's unhealthy. |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 21:36 - Sep 20 with 2232 views | jasondozzell |
He'll get there. It's just nerves and needing more game time imo. I was watching him warming up quite closely and he gave the ball away several times in the rondos. He did look a bit nervous to me and understandable. I know he played in champ before but we're a bigger team and a step up - he's no longer the biggest fish in the pond etc etc
He shows good signs. Ambitious with his passing and works hard. He's a good player and I think just needs more game time playing in our style.
McKenna is working hard to get whole squad up to the level. Look at the progress with Hutchinson so far. He'll do the same with Taylor. It was good management to recognise that we needed a bit more of a foothold with Luongo and Kmac was decisive. But did you also notice that he spoke to Taylor immediately when he came off with his arm around him - clearly at pains to explain the decision and reassure. Good man management.
Players take time sometimes. The fact he started Taylor tells me that Kmac is seeing the right stuff in training! |  | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 22:06 - Sep 20 with 2215 views | greyhound |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 11:34 - Sep 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
We have seen Morsy and Luongo for what seems like 200 games in a row now going to be very difficult for anyone to come in and look instantly comfortable.
But I thought he did ok, worked hard made some nice forward runs, was strong in the air. Promising debut away at a good team. |
Luongo arrived in jan and didn't fit straight in the team... Its now hard to imagine anything without luongo as his impact has been so enormous in our fortunes. I've no doubt Taylor will work but he's not going to be Luongo, he's a different player and he hasn't come straight in for good reason. KM clearly has a lot of faith in the team that got us here. The quality added in the window allows us to have far better depth suitable to the level.
Tough to judge Taylor for some time I would say. | | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 06:29 - Sep 21 with 2133 views | PioneerBlue |
Here we go again.
Seeking out players to knock down even though it’s clear we work as a squad and football is more than ever a squad game. You are never only as good as a so called preferred starting 11.
Taylor has had the opportunity to train, learn principles and patterns but he is not match sharp. It’s hardly surprising he wasn’t quite as quick to move the ball as others whom are more up to speed. How could he be having played an only a handful of minutes. He played against one of the most experienced/ high quality midfields we will come up against. He will improve for ever game he gets. Why not leave it at that? | |
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| Taylor the only negative from last night on 07:13 - Sep 21 with 2122 views | BigCommon |
Difficult to get fully tuned in to your team mates without game time under your belt..Plus with other relative newbies in Hutchinson and Williams in the line up,, I think there was always scope for some of our passing to be slightly less fluid. The telepathy, not quite ingrained atm..
I'm looking forwards to seeing the likes of Taylor,, Hutchinson, Williams and Scarlett, fully up to speed. They'll bring energy into the side..
Probably one of our toughest fixtures out of the way, with 3pts in the bag. A difficult game for Taylor to boss, in the middle of the park.Against lads with Prem standard experience.But being part of a huge 3pts will give him a big confidence boost.
Against lesser sides he'll shine brighter. And there aren't many players that won't improve this season under KM.
I was pleased we could bring on Mass to help see the game out. But it's hard to be overly harsh on Taylor or anyone else, after such a great result,, imo. |  | | |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 08:18 - Sep 21 with 2103 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Taylor the only negative from last night on 12:02 - Sep 20 by berkstractorboy |
Discussion fine but why do we have to find a negative. It's just the connotation when a post starts with negative in the title.
BTW i don't think you can call out anyone for being odd with some of the tosh you spout on here. |
Because if you want to improve (which we do) you must first identify the 'negatives' and then work on them. |  |
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